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Comment by KristinaR(Divison 285) on August 2, 2010 at 3:13pm

Yes. I sure do.

Comment by TxNavyMomWifeCPO(Ship6Div941) on August 2, 2010 at 3:11pm

KristinaR-yest that is about right. There is a lag time with some of the allowances. Do you have your military id card yet?

Comment by KristinaR(Divison 285) on August 2, 2010 at 3:09pm

Yea see for us they told us BAS until 30 days after he left so its the next check for us.

Comment by TxNavyMomWifeCPO(Ship6Div941) on August 2, 2010 at 3:01pm

Just got back from the bank! Okay back to pay. Please check out this website-Navy Personnel Command (or sometimes referred to as BUPERS)

http://www.npc.navy.mil/CareerInfo/PayAndBenefits/

that will explain in detail the pay components that your recruits can expect. Everyone gets Basic Pay but in addition will get BAH(basic allowance for housing), and BAS( basic allowance for subsistence-or nikosmom might remember this one as COMRATS) The rates for BAH are based on several factors(married, single, living in government quarters or in town). Since we can assume that most of the recruits are single then because the government is housing them, then while in a training status will not get this allowance. Married recruits or recruits with valid dependents will receive BAH based on the married rate and will most likely get back BAH based on this status-I don't know how this is handled in bc-but in the commands that I have been in, when a service member added a dependent to their "page two", then the system would be updated to reflect the change in status from single to married. However, if a single member is stationed on a ship or barracks, then they will get little if any of the BAH--again it is assumed that the government is providing the housing for the single member. However, BAH will continue for a married member in stationed aboard a ship due to the fact that the member is supporting a family. Confused yet?

Now lets move on to BAS-again this is paid to provide subsistence for the service member only. So, while in a training status such as BC the recruits will not get this, nor will they get this in "A" school. This confuses alot of people, but the whole purpose of BAS is to provide meals for the service member only. It will stop, for example, if a sailor is aboard a ship--regardless of dependent status. I was a liaison for Navy Marine Corps Relief Society once, and I cannot tell you how many upset wives I encountered when the paycheck dropped considerably because the ship their husband was stationed on pulled out for deployment--many families come to depend on BAS but do not realize it is to provide food for the service member only.

Now I wholeheartedly agree with my sister Chief Petty Officer Angie--do not send your sailor money when they call as say they ran out of money. They will need to learn to budget their pay and not waste it on video games etc. If it becomes an issue, then they will be sent to an organization like Navy Marine Corp Relief Society and be guided on learning how to budget. I have counseled many a young sailor using the same budget sheet that the NMCRS uses....I am sure Angie has done the same.

Well I hope that I did not provide too much confusion :-) They will get their uniform allowance sometime before graduation or shortly after.

Comment by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy on August 2, 2010 at 2:42pm

How is everyone doing today? I've been gone 3 days, had a great trip to the Oregon Coast with my husband. I'm not even going to try and catch up with all the posts from all the groups I'm on! Just jumping in cold turkey!

Reminder: If you need Grad & Go Info, join that group! FYI: Just because one recruit in a division is G&G does not mean all of them are, but they could be - there is no concrete answer for that.

Comment by djloch (Zac's Mom) on August 2, 2010 at 2:12pm

thats right m'mom..they have money and when I asked Zac on during our phone call if he needed any stamps or money or phone card or anything he said no they gave him plenty of stamps and envelopes and the phone card I gave him before he left was good (guess since he hadnt gotten to use it-lol) and they didnt need any money cause anything they needed to purchase they deduct from pay

Comment by NukeMom/MM/USSMichigan on August 2, 2010 at 2:06pm

The giving it to the SR's and taking it away is likely an income tax thing. They have to pay income tax on any money they get.

Comment by m'smom on August 2, 2010 at 1:43pm

Yes Zac's Mom is correct. Matt will be E-2 on Grad because of College credits etc. He will get 'back pay' on Grad. This is why they say they won't need us to pay for anything for them anymore (at least the single guys)! All their expenses are paid for and their pay is pocket money. If they are wise, they put a large chunk of it away for the future. We will see how well we have taught them to manage their money.
There was a discussion on this a couple of months ago on the bootcamp group. I think that is where I read all this. Hoppi was explaining that AFTER PIR their pay will show an amount coming out for housing and food, but it is a bookkeeping thing. They put the money in their pay(this doesn't show) and then deduct it (this does show). It looks like they are paying all this money for housing and food, but if you compare it to the chart that TxNavy Mom just sent us (thanks, it is great) you will see what I am talking about. This doesn't apply until AFTER THEY GRADUATE.
Hope I didn't confuse the issue for you.
Tx Mom- Did I get this right?? I wish I could remember where I read it. Hoppi did a great job of explaining. Some mom's were sending money because the sailors were running out of pay and she was saying don't do it. They are wasting their pay on video games, eating out, etc. if they are running out.

Comment by Sylvia*Cali-mom on August 2, 2010 at 1:36pm

Diannep- Thanks for the insight on uniform allowances. I will "google" and definitely check it out. Thanks again!

Comment by Sylvia*Cali-mom on August 2, 2010 at 1:32pm

That's awesome for Zac. Thanks for the info.

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