First Things First-- The Quarantine Edition
First things first.....New Moms.... Take a Deep Breath in....... Let it out...... Take another one......... Let it out....... Repeat continuously!!! Just keep breathing and it will all be OK!! We haven’t lost a mom to Boot camp yet, we won’t start with you.
If your Recruit has not left yet: have him or her leave you a voicemail message so when you just can't stand it you can hear their message (Over and Over and Over, Just don’t listen to it till after they've been gone for at least 24 hrs. You’ll know when it’s time.), Sneak a note of encouragement in their wallet and ask them to leave you a note at home so you can find it there. One of the Moms suggested setting a time of day that they would be thinking about/ praying for their SR. That way they would always be connected. Also have them call as soon as they land in Chicago. It will be your last "Visit" until the call home around week 4 or 5. Also talk with them about who they want to be told about and when, should something happen back home. I know this is an uncomfortable topic but with COVID it is important to know. They likely would not be able to come home unless it is for Their Immediate family (and not always then, especially with COVID!)
Other things to take care of before your Recruit leaves: Please go read this page! It is Very Helpful and has a complete list of all the things you may want to consider before they leave. Keep in mind it was written some time ago and the box is no longer shipped home (take the Charger for their phone!!)and a few other things may have also changed but the basic gist is still there. https://navyformoms.ning.com/forum/topics/things-to-do-in-the-last-...
If you have time I would get Power of Attorney’s for: any real property, A financial power of attorney and a Medical Power of Attorney There are many places that you can get the forms for free Online and then you just have to get them notarized. I also suggest they open an account with Navy Federal Credit Union if you have a location near you. (the article goes into why and what all they will need otherwise) If you also have the time I strongly suggest you look into getting a Civilian Passport or at least getting all the paperwork filled out if they are going to a Long A school (nuke or corpsman). Most of the time they can and will travel “on orders”, However if they are stationed overseas they will need a passport to travel outside of their “Station Country” (and Europe has many wonderful countries to see but some are smaller than many of our States!!). If they have to travel under an emergency or something happens to their orders they will at least have their Passport to allow for some greater ease.
Now on to ROM/P-Days and what the first few weeks may hold.
Day of Departure/ MEPS/ Flying out-- After they Swear in (You May no longer be able to attend this ceremony. :'( Please be sure to check with your local MEPS office) they will be transported to the Airport to fly to Chicago (unless you live close by in which case they are bused.) Shortly after arrival they will make the “I am Here Call” This usually comes Very late at night or Early morning (Ours came at 1:30am Mountain time) It is Scripted “"I made it. I'm here. I'm fine. Look a letter in about 3 weeks. I will try to call in about 3 weeks. Love ya. I gotta go." I advise just talking over your SR (Seaman Recruit) and telling them you love them and are proud of them and you KNOW they GOT THIS and OH Yeah… You LOVE THEM!!! Don’t expect an answer but know they will have heard you!
Quarantine Begins
They will go straight from the Airport to Great Lakes. Upon arrival there they will make the phone call and be divided into 2 types, Fully Immunized for COVID, or not. They will be given a Duffel bag with their sweats and basic clothing. They should get a hygiene kit with a toothbrush/paste, shampoo?, soap, razor and unscented deodorant. Gals should take some hygiene products if they think they MAY need it in the first 3 weeks of BC. They should be able to get stuff if needed but better safe than sorry. IF they are worried they can bring those from home but they should take them in a Ziptop bag since they may end up in the box and they don’t want them to get all over anything else in the box!! (Like cell phones!!!)
IF they are Fully Vaccinated They will begin P days so you can skip to that part of this blog. If NOT: They will be in Quarantine for the next 14 days at an on base location with a small group of other recruits of the same gender. They have been assigning Div numbers (Division Numbers are the Smaller group of SR’s that train together. A Training Group (TG) is all the Div’s scheduled to PIR on the same day, but you still likely will not know an address until the form letter arrives following ROM. They have been given their Blue Jacket (Training manual) in the initial gear so they have material to begin studying but they will not be tested until they are done with ROM . They have time to read and write so you may get letters sooner than previous years.(Sending them with an envelope and a couple of stamps would be a good idea so they can mail the letter home right away!). Everything they brought from home will go in a box that is placed in storage. I suggest if they bring toiletries that they bring a Ziptop baggie to separate liquids from their phones and clothes. I have heard that some have been permitted to keep books. That may be a privilege earned. They are also given some basic exercises (planks are the new standard but we have heard that some still do curl-ups as well. No Running!!!) that they are permitted to do, if they choose (Encourage them to Choose!!) but the RDC's do not use that as IT during this time. (IT- Instructional Training, Intensive Training, Incentive Training = change your attitude or do better or you get to do this exercise to get the message home. Not really punishment but can feel that way at times.) After 14 days they will be moved to their regular Ship at RTC and they will visit Medical and Dental & finalize processing paperwork (P-days) and begin the next 6ish weeks of training!! About 3-4 weeks (usually on a Thursday) you should get the form letter with the address. At this point you can send all the letters you have been writing!! (Number them and make a copy somehow just in case they get lost) Keep sending letters if they get placed back into ROM, (NO CARE Packages!! Regular mail will forward but Sandboxx letters may not) About 4 weeks after they have left is the first earned phone call. Bootcamp is still 8-9 weeks if there are no cases of COVID for that individual Division. but if anyone tests positive anyone in the bunks closest to them (The Ring of Fire) go back into ROM and it may take longer. This is the Navy so EVERYTHING posted here is subject to change until it isn't!!
Once they are onboard RTC they will transition to Training Days. Usually denoted as W1TD1 (Week 1 Training Day 1). The first day there they will fill out the form letter that gets mailed home. That letter along with any letters written in ROM will be collected and mailed the next business day (Remember we do not count Sat, Sun or Holidays except as ROM Days). Usually the form and first letters arrive home between 21 and 28 business days since departure, HOWEVER there are reasons it may be delayed. Lots of reasons that are NOT cause to panic. It is hard but Repeat after me... No News is Good News!! Again! No News is GOOD NEWS!!! Repeat daily, hourly, Minute by minute as necessary! Shout it if you need to or whisper it as a prayer! Whatever gets you through. The Form letter will give you the address and PIR date! Time to Mail all the letters you have been writing! I know how hard the waiting can be but calling the recruiters is not advised. They may have the wrong address and letters sent early may not arrive in a timely fashion since the Mail Petty Officer has to be trained and until that happens mail is set aside to be sorted later and sometimes that later is MUCH later!! The first few weeks are honestly the hardest part of BC! Your emotions are still raw from letting go of your Child and knowing that for better or worse they will be changed by this experience and add to that the Communications Blackout that is imposed and it can be quite overwhelming but trust us that they know you love them, they feel your prayers and you will get a chance to send letters!
Around week 4 you will get the first call home. They may be homesick and there may be tears so be prepared and be strong. (You can come here and cry later, to quote my favorite wizard,”I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.” It’s ok to cry about missing your baby, even if they are mostly full grown!! (We are over 7 years in and I still cry on occasion—Navy Mom Allergies!!!) The call can come on ANY day of the Week at any time from 8am-8pm-ish Central time. Calls will not come on Sunday Mornings but they can come any other time. Keep Phones charged and ringers on LOUD at all times while they are in BC!! Answer ALL Calls!! Yes telemarketers may call but you can hang up on them!! You don't want to risk missing a call from your Recruit! Keep a notepad handy of all the questions you want to ask so you don't forget!
In the meantime while you are waiting through the “Great Silence”, write letters!!! Write all the Letters you can! Take all the raw emotional letters and save them for a BC burning/shredding party at the end of BC and get ready to send positive and encouraging letters. There is a whole file here on letter writing. Read all you can and watch the videos “The Making of a Sailor” videos to get an idea of what your SR’s are going through.
This whole experience is a huge roller coaster of emotions. We have been where you are now and we know what you are feeling. Just remember you are stronger than you feel… You raised a young Man or Woman who was willing to put duty to country over self. They are strong enough to take on this challenge because they were shown strength from home! You have raised the 1%!! Be proud of that and welcome to the Family!!
TLDR:
The Expected timeline will look like this
Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call
Day 1-14 -- Vaccinated Recruits: Skip to Day 15. All others: ROM (Restriction of Movement/ Quarantine-- Lots of studying and waiting)
Day 15-21-- Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)
Day 21-- Complete P days. (Initial PFT & Run)
Day 22-- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later)
All of this is assuming no exposure to COVID with additional ROM
Training typically occurs for 5 days and they have 2 days for the "Weekend". 1 is "Sunday routine" and SR's will have an opportunity to attend Religious services if they choose. This day MAY NOT be on the actual day- Sunday.
Normal PIR will be 10 Fridays after departure from Home but it can be less by 1 but it can be extended by ???? (lots!!) It just depends on how many times they get caught in the “Ring of Fire” but do not get COVID. IF they get COVID, Once they are recovered they will not be removed from training again even if they are in the “Ring of Fire”. (so there is that small silver lining for our moms who’s kids have gotten sick)
** If your SR is FULLY Vaccinated (2 weeks past final injection) then you can subtract 2 weeks for ROM from this timeline. 8 weeks of BC instead of 2.**
Chipmunk
Looking forward to helping you share this with all of our new members. Thanks!!
Aug 5, 2020
NavyMom1013
Thanks for this information. I’m learning a lot from this group...Navy moms are strong women...I’m not there yet.
Aug 7, 2020
belovedbyHim
NavyMom1013 -- You are strong. You just haven't recognized it yet. The day you let your child go to the Navy you exercised that strength for the first time! Just like when you go to the gym for the first time in a while. You think you are ok, but then soon everything hurts!! However the more you go, the more you workout, the more you lift, run, crunch, climb, stretch... the easier it becomes and the stronger you become!! You have a strength you do not recognize in that you raised a child who is selfless enough that they want to serve their country. Less than 1% of all eligible persons are willing to make that choice! That takes strength and they learned those lessons first at home from you! Just like no one expects that they can just hop up off the couch one day and run a marathon, this too takes time and training. That is what this site is for! We will coach, encourage, run alongside you and at times carry you through your Navy journey, be that here, on BC Moms or any of the other myriad of Navy mom/parent/family/ship/location sites. Never doubt that you are not strong! You are!! Some of us have been training longer than you but we do not have that which you cannot obtain too! You are a Strong Navy MOM!!
Aug 7, 2020
Gigi
Aww this put tears into my eyes. This the reason why I’m still here, you veterans moms are a big help! Thank you thank you thank you! You already put the words before I say it, you’ve already felt what I’m about to feel. Appreciate y’all
Aug 7, 2020
belovedbyHim
Gigi -- It is my honor to pass on that which I was gifted from others.
Aug 8, 2020
Jennifer
Aug 8, 2020
Chipmunk
Hi Jennifer, I posted a message for you in the comment section on your My Page. Glad you found BelovedbyHim's Blog. The next couple of weeks or so will be the hardest until you receive that form letter. But while you are missing your SR (seaman recruit), he is missing home as well, so be strong, find a project to work on and write encouraging letters. Tell him about your daily activities and even your new project, pick back up a set aside hobby, or start a good book or movie/ tv series. Something to give you thoughts and ideas you can share with him. And it helps you to work through the transition.
Aug 8, 2020
belovedbyHim
Jennifer -- You are welcome. I hope you feel able to share on the BC Moms pages as well. We are happy to help.
Aug 8, 2020
Navymom0928
Truly appreciate all the information and advice.
Aug 11, 2020
belovedbyHim
Navymom0928-- My pleasure.
Aug 11, 2020
Shoosh
This is such great and helpful information. Thank you so much!! I love the idea of a voicemail :) The items that they can bring with them, like books/bible/e-reader, should they carry a small backpack?
Aug 12, 2020
Chipmunk
Shoosh - they should be issued a backpack at BC. My son's at least was a nice one and as far as I know he is still using it almost daily after 3 years!
Beloved probably reminds you to make sure she has her phone charger. My son was able to take a small sized memo sized / breast pocket sized notebook and an inexpensive mechanical pencil with him that we wrote phone #s and addresses in. The notebook was given to him at the recruiter's office by a retired Navy man. My son has multiple of those and he calls them his "pocket brains". It is where he keeps all his notes and such.
Also, if she wants a watch or a wallet to keep IDs in they both need to be solid black. Black is the fall back color on any accessories as far as I know.
Aug 12, 2020
belovedbyHim
I would take stuff in a small drawstring bag that she won't mind dumping later on if she needs to. Same for the books-- Paperback is best (They can be donated to the Navy (maybe??) or left in the airport for another traveler to pick up and read. At least that's what we did pre-COVID... Sticker on the front letting folks know they were welcome to take the book to read and pass on to someone else) or an e-reader that she can carry easily. With an E-reader she can have several books to read depending on how fast of a reader she is. She will want to have a small Bible, if she's planning to take one, That is NOT electronic!! They make a military one that you can order or check your local book shop. You want a Pocket sized NOT a study Bible sized!! Space is Limited. The Bible is where she can place addresses, phone #'s and your note so they don't end up sealed in the Box where she won't have access to them.
I am happy that the information is helpful. That is the goal!! (Oh and I will be posting the Above ^ on the Main FB page since it may help others who don't necessarily come here and read all the comments. Just in case you get deja vu...
Aug 12, 2020
Chipmunk
belovedbyHim - Great idea to put numbers and addresses in the pocket Bible. At my son's MEPS they had an entire collection all for the different branches of service. So, they might be able to get one there, and transfer from a notepaper if not able to get it beforehand.
Aug 12, 2020
belovedbyHim
Chipmunk -- That's where we saw them!!! I knew there was somewhere that we got our sons for free!! If they can transfer it from the notebook paper that's great but they can also fold the paper up smallish and just smash it inside the bible itself. The letter should be shortish! (Just 1 page long) so it should fit. It is great if you send a longer note but they may not be as easily able to keep it with them as a single page.
Aug 12, 2020
DsMom2020
Aug 21, 2020
belovedbyHim
DavesMom2020 -- My Honor. I'm glad it helps some.
Aug 21, 2020
Tlg552000
Hello Everyone. I am glad to be a part of the group. My granddaughter, who is like a daughter to me swiped out n yesterday. We received her call as she arrived. Just a bit anxious to know when wee will be able to write her. I am not alarmed by the fact that she will be yelled at as she attended school in Trinidad and that was the norm. It simply feels different without her around the house at this point. I do want to encourage everyone though by letting you know that most of our children were adamant about choosing this career and they are doing what they desire. Continue to pray for them all.
Aug 26, 2020
belovedbyHim
Tlg552000-- Welcome!! You are welcome to comment on here but it is just the blog and not as active as the main Bootcamp page. https://navyformoms.ning.com/group/bootcampmoms You may want to join that page as well since there will be a larger support pool to help you through. Yes they were adamant about joining and mine has bee in for 7 years now and plans to stay as long as they'll pay him! He's content so I am.
Aug 26, 2020
FootballMom
Appreciate the great informational material. I do have a quick question.
My step son is at RTC however last wknd we received that dreadful call he is back in quarantine for 14 days as he was tested positive. Crying and upset as he only had 9 days till battleship and this happens. Naturally I started crying and was a wreak the rest of the day. Now reading some other parents who's kids are in same division there symptoms seem worse from blurred vision to headaches, how and when will we find out if our son is okay. Worried Mom. First time I felt helpless
Sep 3, 2020
belovedbyHim
FootballMom -- I'd suggest you post on the BC Moms Main page. There have been some other moms there who have been where you are and they may be better able to advise. I do know that your Recruit is the only one who can tell you about their medical condition. You can and should write to your recruit at least daily if not more! He will be in quarantine for the whole time seeing no one so the more you can write, the better. That will give him something to do while he waits. You can ask him if you can mail a book or other reading material to him. He will have to ask permission first but since he's 2 weeks down you will have some time. Letters will still get delivered.
Again I hope you will share with the moms on the bootcamp page. They really will be better able to advise! Scroll down till you reach the comment section.
https://navyformoms.ning.com/group/bootcampmoms?groupUrl=bootcampmo...
Sep 3, 2020
Chipmunk
FootballMom - I noticed your question earlier today but I wasn't sure how to respond. BelovedbyHim actually shared everything that I would have said as well. Feeling helpless is a very real emotion and I wish I could say this is the only time you will feel like it, but not likely. The most important thing for you is to stay as positive as you can and keep writing letters.
Sep 3, 2020
MaterNauta
Thank you for this information!! It is exactly what I was looking for. I am still figuring out the website and the information.
Sep 3, 2020
belovedbyHim
MaterNauta-- I'm glad this helps. I know I saw your post on the main page and I'd suggest you keep posting there since there are a bunch of other moms who can and will help you out on that page too!
Sep 4, 2020
momm2five (GM MOM)
Thank you for all the info! This is my second time for Navy and I also have an Air Force daughter. This is all so different from my first two times through!
Sep 9, 2020
Chipmunk
momm2five (GM MOM) if you haven't joined the BC Mom group yet already, Be sure to do so. We do a lot more chatting and getting to know everyone there in the comment section. BC Moms group
Sep 9, 2020
belovedbyHim
momm2five -- You are welcome. I'm glad the information was helpful! I second the suggestion to join the main Bootcamp Moms page. Yes it's different from when my son was in too!
Sep 9, 2020
C'sMom
belovedbyHim, thank you. I did read this the other day. And I will probably read it again a few times. All of this info is a little overwhelming and I find I can only take in so much at a time. Then I need to take a break.
Sep 10, 2020
belovedbyHim
C'sMom2020-- No Worries. IT is overwhelming, especially with your emotions on high!! The blog isn't going anywhere, although there will be a new version once we know what's changed with the move to WI and Fort McCoy. I'll post that link here too.
Sep 10, 2020
coley423
Thank you so much! This is great and a little comforting!
Sep 12, 2020
belovedbyHim
coley423 -- You are welcome. Please come join us on the main BC page as well if you haven't already.
Sep 13, 2020
partyofseven
Navymom0928- You are very welcome. Hope that you are doing ok and hanging in there. Have a wonderful day!!!
Sep 13, 2020
Melinda
Thanks for the information and advice. I wish I had found it sooner. The voicemail is a great idea. My son left for BC on Oct 08 and I've been in tears since I dropped him off. I've been waiting by the phone. I got the I'm here call that night.
Oct 11, 2020
partyofseven
Hey Melinda,
Oct 11, 2020
belovedbyHim
Melinda-- That was me too, Many years ago. Since he just left you are in the Great Silence! Right now You DO NOT want a phone call (Even though you do!!) No Phone call means he's doing well and is on Track with his training! It's hard to accept when all you want is to know he's ok and still happy with his choice. I Highly encourage you to join us on the main Boot camp Moms page at https://navyformoms.ning.com/group/bootcampmoms?commentId=1971797%3...
Scroll down till you get to the chat section. (It's a ways down) The ladies there are Amazing and we will get you through this. You Are NOT alone!! Your Son is safe and it will get better!! It may never get easier but you get stronger and that makes it better!! We have not lost a mom to boot camp and we will not start with you!!!
Oct 11, 2020
Melinda
Oct 11, 2020
warriorprotector
Thank you so much for this post! My younger son is in the USCG and we went through his BC experience 4 yrs ago, but Navy BC is different and with Covid...crazy! You forget how stressful it is not to hear from your child. My oldest son is the one in BC right now and should be at RTC today after his 14 day quarantine. I keep repeating to myself "no news is good news"! So happy to find this site, the support is much needed! Love all these strong military moms!
Dec 3, 2020
mom2blondies
Found this group a little late but better late than never because there is some great info here. Thank you! I had to steady myself to unwrap my arms from my baby boy last night not knowing when I will see his face again which felt absolutely impossible. So now I'm reading, reading, reading about what his next few weeks/months will be like.
Dec 7, 2020
DsMom2020
Hi Mom2Blondies
Make sure to join Donna’s Boot Camp Moms group where you will get more support than you know what to do with. This group doesn’t get a lot of action. There are lots of resources and support available to you because this is a hard time. All I can say is remember no news is good news!! It will be 3 to 5 weeks before your next hear anything from your sailor recruit when you get his form letter with an address where you can mail letters to him. Keep your phone on you with the ring turned on loud and answer every call. If you hear something sooner, it’s usually a bad thing like a quarantine due to Covid exposure or an injury. In the meantime start writing him lots of positive letters and number them. When you get his address you can mail them all. I don’t post often due to work schedule. My son graduated boot camp in October. Good luck.
Dec 7, 2020
Hilltop
I'm truly thankful for this group of moms. The right amount of information at the right time.
Feb 5, 2021
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Hilltop - be sure to join the boot camp group - I left the link in the welcome message on your page.
Feb 5, 2021
DrMom
Is this information on arrival for ROM for new recruits still correct? Are they still going to Ft. McCoy?
Feb 10, 2021
Chipmunk
DrMom - Yes the SRs are still going to Ft McCoy - at least that is our latest knowledge. Also, I think I saw you had joined the BC Mom group - be sure to go there and introduce yourself if you haven't done so already. That is the best place to ask your questions, down in our comment wall where we doing our daily chatting.
Feb 10, 2021
Jayme0209
Feb 12, 2021
DsMom2020
Hi Jayme. The ring of fire are all the SRs (sailor recruits) in the bunks immediately around ;& above or below) an SR that develops symptoms of illness. They all get quarantined (ROM - restriction of movement). After ROM, they get out in a new division since their old one continued training without them. I am not sure if they are all ROM’d for 14 days, or if the “ill” person is Covid negative, if they get to get out of ROM early.
Feb 12, 2021
Proud Mama
I am new to this group and honestly I have never posted anything ever online, but I am desperately missing my son who is expected to graduate on May 6, 2021. We were getting letters quite a lot at the beginning, back dated from the time he was quarantined but the last one we received was one week ago dated 2 weeks before that. My question is, does the training get more intense during the last couple weeks? The last call we got was almost 3 weeks ago too. Just wondering if you moms remember receiving less during the last few weeks of training? Biting my nails over here but so very proud, after reading about xxx and all the extra stuff he has been assigned already. I can’t believe they won’t let us see these ‘kids’ graduate. Have the graduation outside for goodness sakes and have me a mile away, is still better than a video a day later. These kids didn’t even get real high school graduations, so I know this is more for me than it is him. Just bittersweet emotions over here, frustrated I haven’t seen my son since the end of Feb and who knows when I can give him a proud Mama hug.
Apr 30, 2021