Ship 5 Moms(Formerly Ship 17)

For loved ones and graduates of Ship 5(17) no critics!This is a haven for the above, not for those seeking to attack those in need of support! PLEASE READ THRU MASTHEAD. MANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED HERE!

Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

Load Previous Comments
  • Erika

    My boyfriend called me today saying that he saw legal! He said he should be on a plane on Friday! I'm do lucky that his process went by so fast!!

    Discharged on 11th
    Legal today (17th)
    Home - claimed Friday

    My prayers go to everyone that r waiting and hoping to see their sailor for the holidays! Hopefully they step up there game like they did with my SR an get go out of there fast! God bless you all! Congrats @TxNavyDad
  • TxNavyDad

    @aloha... Our son called after chow tonight. About 830pm CST (same as Texas). He didn't know his flight info either, except that they were leaving GL at 10am for the airport and he would call me from there. He explained how each department DID NOT communicate with the next. RTC did there job, forwarded the paperwork to legal, then legal to the CO, then the CO to transportation. Not one of the dept's spoke to the next at anytime during the separation and ship out process.

    Well hell!!! No wonder things run so smoothly and everyone knows everything...

    (Sarcasm? Ya Think?) Geeze. It's a wonder our men and women get home at all.

    I guess I should shut up and be thank full our son is coming home. I'm sure, unfortunately, there will be some SR's spending the holidays there and for that my heart goes out to the SR's and their families. We all will keep everyone in prayer until they all get home.

    LEAVE NO SR BEHIND!!

  • TxNavyDad

    @Erika... That's awesome news girl!! So glad he made it to legal. That seems to be the hardest and longest wait, to get into legal. It seems that after legal, it's a down hill slide to meet with transportation and finalize the out processing.

    We are hoping and praying Erika that your bf is on that plane friday headed back to you!!

  • TxNavyDad

    Aloha... I feel your pain. BELIEVE ME... I think everyone here will finally sleep well knowing that our SR is coming home. He and his sister have already been making plans for movie night with snacks and goofing around until all hours...

    AWW HELL YA!!

    "That's the way.. uh-huh uh-huh we like it uh-huh uh-huh..."

  • JeanneT

    Texnavydad.......i am so happy for everyones kids being home and coming home. What in the world has happened to mine? I got a crappy depressing letter today and his name tapes he took off his work uniform. Im so friggin sad right now. I cant stop crying.
  • TxNavyDad

    Jeanne... I'm so sorry. My son sent one of his home as well. It is kind of a kick in the teeth when you see it. However, he will be coming home soon. As I understand it, they are really trying hard to ship out as many as they can. I also understand that vacations that were initially said to have started Dec.19th, have been canceled due to high numbers of SR's in S5. We will keep you, your son and everyone in prayer as we always have and will continue too.

    Remember the storm is the strongest and darkest, just before it's over.

    I know it's easy for me to say since my son is coming home tomorrow, but just like you I was there and still am to an extent until my son is home.

    We are all still here with and for you.

  • JeanneT

    Texnavydad.....thanks so much for that. He said the place is full of crazy people. Too much so to put on paper. He says there are mutinys and people that want to over throw the staff. What the hell? He cant believe most of the people got through MEPS. I want him home. You are so lucky your son is just about there.
  • TxNavyDad

    Jeanne... I guess those guys that are going crazy have the attitude of "What are you going to do to me? Throw me out of the Navy?" what they fail to realize is, while they are being separated, until they leave the base, they are still in the Navy and still subject to its rules and regs. If they push it hard enough, they vary easily could end up in the brig with a dishonorable discharge.
    So, we will also be praying for peace and understanding for the guys that are acting out, causing allot of trouble. We will also pray for protection around your son.
    Your son will be home soon Jeanne and until he is, we are here with you.
  • JeanneT

    Texnavydad.....i know. The letter was actually unnerving. Vi am amazed hey would act in such a manner. My son said coming from such rigid military structure to this, ship 5, is just terrible. He said if you ever think boot camp is bad, hang out in ship 5. No comparison. thanks for your kind words as always. I gotta go sleep this one off. Hysterical crying exhausts me.
  • JeanneT

    Sorry my spelling stinks......tears makes it so cloudy i cant see the keyboard. Ugh!
  • TxNavyDad

    Jeanne... Peace be with you always.
  • JeanneT

    Texnavydad......thank you please let us know when your son is back safely in your lives. Hug him for ALL of us. Night.
  • Z's Mom

    My son called again today and said they told him Thursday for sure, but he has no travel information yet either. He did say that Aloha's son left - so thats good, right???

  • TxNavyDad

    @ the airport waiting 12 more minutes until our sons plane lands!!!
    Oh happy day... OH HAPPY DAY!!! Our son will be home... Our son will be home...
    (Excesizing to get ready to donthr happy dance) 1-2 1-2 1-2.... (WHEW!!)
  • JeanneT

    Wow. ...Im sort of jealous.....not in a bad way though. I just know how you must be feeling. Let us know how it goes Texnavydad.
  • sdcel

    Happy for you all!  

  • colormecrazy

    Hey yall. I'm super freaking out right now. My husband isn't on the list to come home Wednesday OR Thursday. He said many people went home today that got here after he did. His grandpa has taken a turn for the worst today and we are worried about time. I called the Red Cross and they told me there is nothing they can do. :(

  • Thetwoj

    Congratulations to all of you who have returning sons and daughters this week. For those who's loved ones are still there, try to hang in there. Maybe delay your celebration for a few days if you can.

  • TxNavyDad

    Good Morning everyone!!

    When we picked him up from the airport last night, he looked so good and was so glad to see us as we were him. We were waiting for him at the exit from the concourse to the main terminal by security.

    We saw him coming to the exit and my daughter ran towards him and literally jumped into his arms and the rest is beautiful family history. My wife asked him one question about bootcamp and boy, the stories that followed for almost 3hrs straight were great. We stopped by his grandparents house on the way home from the airport (his grandfather is ex navy from 1950-1954) who had no clue he was home yet. This was a HUGE surprise for them. Anyway, he is still asleep, now at 825am, resting VERY comfortably and will get up when he is good and ready. No revile in this house!! 

    Buttermilk pancakes, bacon and OJ are on the menu this morning. YUM!

    A HUGE Thank You to everyone for your prayers, words of wisdom and just being a true family. You guys are the best!

    Happy Holidays to all from Texas.

    We are keeping everyone in our prayers as always and hope everyone will make it home for Christmas and if not by then, at least before New Years.

  • colormecrazy

    All I want is for him to be home for Christmas! And I know he is wanting to spend the holidays with his grandpa. I'm so nervous but am not getting my hopes up for Friday. :/ Is there a way where I can call and give him updates about his grandfather?

  • colormecrazy

    Well his mother told him about it yesterday, and it made him have a break down.  A petty officer let him call 11 pm last night and he told me about it. I found out some more info and wanted to update him, knowing he's probably worried sick right now. Trust me, I haven't even told him our cat ran away even though he hates that thing haha. And I will purchase a plane ticket right away if that is the case!! Do you know who I can contact to ask about that?

  • momof3

    Hello All-
    When will recruit be notified if there name Is on list to leave? ( how many days in advance) should he have to follow up daily ..?
  • cpursley

    My son got to call me late the night before he was leaving. It had been great having him home these past few days. He seems back to normal. Every now and then he gets real quiet and doesn't talk about the future much. I'm giving him time and space about it. After all he was a day away from graduating before he had his dreams taken away from him.
  • momof3

    I'm so sorry to hear . It's a tough on them. I can't wait to see and talk with my son about his experience. Don't have a clear picture to why he was discharged all I know it's " medical ". Sigh ...
  • colormecrazy

    Does anyone know if I could call travel and ask if my husband is scheduled to come home Friday? Would they have that information?

     

  • colormecrazy

    sixft- Thanks for the advice! I did! They said they were closed (3:30 pm CST?) but the nice man helped me out as much as he could. My husband didn't sign a waiver because I read somewhere any extra paperwork to be processed may make the whole thing longer. But I answered a few questions about him correctly and he was able to talk to me a little bit about his case.

    I VERY politely explained the situation and the fact that the red cross couldn't help me and my only other option was to speak with my congressman for help, and he told me that he would relay the message and see what they could do for me. He was very nice and understanding, I was surprised. So we will see I suppose.

     

    Sorry. This whole thing is kinda making me lose my marbles. LOL

  • TxNavyDad

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone. We are very blessed and fortunate to have our SR home now as most of you know.

    For those of you who do not have your SR's home, we are most definitely keeping ALL the SR's and their families in prayer for peace, understanding and most of all our God's blessings. May this holiday season not be one of emptiness and sorrow, but of thanksgiving and praise. Our SR's were where they want to be. Being excellent representatives and protectors of our great nation. But, things happened and sometimes, when one door is closed, another is opened.

    One thing to keep in mind is this, even though our SR's didn't make it all the way thru, they are still considered Navy veterans. My son informed me of this FACT. Whether it was 29 days or 29 years, they are still Navy veterans...

    (provided they received an honorable discharge and I don't see why any did not)

    Our nation has the strongest military in the world.

    A force of VOLUNTEER DEFENDERS!!!

    We have mighty warrior man and women that stand firm and say...

    "Sleep well. No harm will befall you on MY watch!"

    You just don't get any stronger than that.

    Thank you to all our past, present and future defenders for protecting us all.

    God Bless you all!! GO U.S. NAVY!! GO U.S. ARMED FORCES!!

  • JeanneT

    Angie...you come across as a very rude person. Every person on this site has the best intentions and willingness to talk and walk one another through a most difficult heartbreaking time. In the future, having pertinent information for any of us, please don't be so damn snotty in sharing.
  • TxNavyDad

    @Angie

    I guess legal doesn't know what they are talking about then. Maybe you should give them a call and straighten them out.

    BTW.. I never said they were eligible for all the things you posted as FACT.

    Merry Christmas!

  • Robynkm

    Angie, PLEASE GO AWAY..... we don't need or want your info!!!
  • JeanneT

    Txnavydad....hope your son had a great day home with his loving family. Don' t be too far away please. My son is still there. I may need you and glorann. God bless.
  • TX Momma Formerly*SHIP12-Div23*

    what does "The ONLY thing they can get is from the FAFSA" mean??? its not a complete statement, so Im not understanding what they "can get". Please explain. Thanks

  • TX Momma Formerly*SHIP12-Div23*

    My daughter went to legal TODAY- SHE was told that she IS a veteran- She is getting an HONORABLE Discharge- She IS eligible to RE-ENLIST- How can you say that someone that COMPLETED boot camp IS NOT a veteran, when they received an honorable discharge? They may not be eligible for ALL the benefits that OTHER veterans can get, but NOT ALL veterans that served LONGER are eligible for ALL the same benefits either. ( And BTW, my daughter was told the same thing as Navydad's son- She IS considered a veteran)

  • TxNavyDad

    Jeanne... Yes he did enjoy it and so did we. Thanks for asking.

    Yes, we are still here.

    Please let us know when you hear something and keep us all updated.

    Be Blessed.

  • colormecrazy

    There are other ways to talk or correct another person without sounding so snotty and condecending. FACT that is NOT THE WAY. The decision to serve your country is a brave and selfless one- even the ones who didn't get the opportunity had to make it. You need to learn how to communicate and not be so insensitive.
  • TX Momma Formerly*SHIP12-Div23*

    http://www.moaa-nh.org/Do_You_Qualify_for_Federal_Veterans_Benefits...

    In actuality, there is no standardized legal definition of "military veteran" in the United States. You see, veteran benefits weren't created all at one time. They've been added one-by-one for over 200 years by Congress. Each time Congress passed a new law authorizing and creating a new veteran benefit, they included eligibility requirements for that particular benefit. Whether or not one is considered a "veteran" by the federal government depends entirely upon which veteran program or benefit one is applying for.

  • JeanneT

    Txnavydad.....thanks.....and Merry Christmas to you and your family. :-D
  • TxNavyDad

    @Angie... Just to clarify the definition of a "Miltary Veteran"
    You may want to read this before slamming someone and showing your ingnorance... As I said... I never claimed they were eligible for benifits...

    http://www.americanwarlibrary.com/whatvet.htm
    Which states:

    Since 1988  Contact The American War Library | References
    Click HERE for the Public Information Office


    What Is A Veteran?


    ALL VETERANS ARE THE SAME
    What is a Veteran?

    A veteran is defined by federal law, moral code and military service as "Any, Any, Any"... A military veteran is Any person who served for Any length of time in Any military service branch. [See #1 and #2, below]

    What is a War Veteran?

    A war veteran is any GI (Government Issue) ordered to foreign soil or waters to participate in direct or support activity against an enemy. The operant condition: Any GI sent in harm's way.

    What is a Combat Veteran?

    A combat veteran is any GI who experiences any level of hostility for any duration resulting from offensive, defensive or friendly fire military action involving a real or perceived enemy in any foreign theater. [See #3, below]
    NOTE:
    1. Veteran's benefits are based on Congressional regulations determined by Honorable Discharge or Under Honorable Conditions status.
    2. Retirees (either 20+ years service or medical discharge status) are also Veterans. Retirees are usually eligible for supplementary federal benefits, privileges and access on military installations, but not necessarily all VA services (some services are maintained by the former military branch), as regulated by Congress.

    3. Wartime medals define various levels of individual combat involvement, sacrifice and/or valor.

    4. (Ret.) or (Retired) may be used by any veteran when stating or publishing his or her rank to indicate they are not on the active list.

    Document Author: Phill Coleman, 18 June 1973
    Contact Person for this website: Roger Simpson,
    Public Information Officer: 13105320634.com
    The American War Library: http://www.amervets.com
    16907 Brighton Avenue
    Gardena CA 90247-5420
    Fone/Fax: 1-310-532-0634
  • TxNavyDad

    @Terri... Well said. I'm right there with ya lady. It seems Angie has an axe to grind and she doesn't care who she grinds it on.
    Well.. I do care. So, I'll hang around as well to assist anyone who asks. If I don't know the answer, I will find the RELEVANT ANSWER to someone's questions.
    Thanks Terri for being here.
  • cpursley

    Just like some of you I had the same problem. Angie was RUDE to me also. And by the way. .... news flash.... she was WRONG! !!! My son did receive a re enlistment code. So no matter what she says or HOW she says it, just know she is not always right. As for you Angie.... maybe you need to find something else to do with your time. Are you bitter for some reason? We are here to support each other while we all support our loved ones that are going through a hard time. And like my son. .... learning the hard way that life isn't fair. So I'm asking nicely for you to have a heart when you comment on here, because the rest of us are here because we need support not criticism.
  • TxNavyDad

    Good Morning CP!!  Very nicely said. How is your son doing?

  • cpursley

    Ok I guess. My husband just left to take him to sign up for unemployment, then we are going to sit down and try to figure out what to do next.
  • cpursley

    TX how is yours?
  • TxNavyDad

    Our son is doing very well thanks. One of the first things he wanted after coming home was, Chik-Fil-A and to drive his 2008 Nissan Xterra.
    When we leftvthe airport, we stopped to visit his grandparents, then we stopped at Chik-Fil-A and brought food home. It was hilarious watching him eat that chicken sandwich ever so slowly, savoring every bite and oh so slowly enjoying his large sweet tea. The grin on his face said it all.
    Well, as always we will keep your son, you and your family in prayer.
    We wish you and your family the very best Christmas and happiest and most prosperous of New Years.
    Be blessed!
  • Thetwoj

    Terri, OMG!!! It's the exact same conversations as 2 months ago. WOW!

     

    Anyway, to those of you who have loved one who have just or are going to be coming home soon, here is the deal with the FASFA.  They absolutly are concidered veterans by the US Government. However, the VA has an entirely different set of rules and, although her delivery sucks, Angie is correct in the fact that your returning SR's will not be elidgable for VA bennies. They will be elidgable for FASFA money, if school is the next step. Although the Financial Aid worker at the school will not know this and will fight with you about it. MAKE THEM CALL THE VA. As long as your kid has a DD214 that states they have an honorable discharge, they will be allowed to check the veteran status box on the financial aid paperwork which in turn will allow them independent status from you. In other words, the school will only look at their income when it comes to Pell Grant money (money they get for school that does not have to be paid back). It will make a huge difference financially for them and you. Again, you will need to force the issue, because the 180 days past boot camp is what everyone knows. Good luck, everything will be fine.

  • Janet

    My son was sent to ship 5 after his eye exam; they say he has keratatitis.  This is a treatable eye infection, not something chronic that he's had all along. I think he must have got it at boot camp. Does anyone know how I find out if he is getting appropriate medical attention?

  • colormecrazy

    Do they call the night before to let you know they're leaving?
  • TxNavyDad

    @colorme... Our son did call the night before he left. He called after chow, which was about 830p cst in Texas. However he did not have his flight info until the following morning and called us from the airport with all the info.
    Hope this helps some!! Merry Christmas!!
  • colormecrazy

    I'm in the DFW area, it's 8:38. :( maybe he didn't make the list for tomorrow either.
  • colormecrazy

    I am really praying I get a call.... but its not looking good. Congrats Bridgett. :)