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JeanneT
Dec 20, 2012
colormecrazy
I don't understand. I called legal and they told me he was on the departure list for Friday December 21!
Dec 20, 2012
colormecrazy
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be a wet blanket. I am very happy for everyone :) Praying I get him home for New Years <3
Dec 20, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 20, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 20, 2012
colormecrazy
THAT LITTLE SHIT CALLED HIS DAD AND WAS TRYING TO SUPRISE ME. omg.
Dec 20, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 20, 2012
colormecrazy
Ugh!! I called his dad crying and he had to tell me. I'm all for surprises just not the ones that make me think that I'm not getting my husband for Christmas! I have to work all day tomorrow too which is just going to suck! But I am so happy, for all of us :)
Dec 21, 2012
TxNavyDad
@colorme and jeanne....
AWESOME!!!! I'm so glad your SR's are comin home. That's so awesome! I'm so happy for y'all!!
Hey colorme... hmmmm... work tomorrow?? Is that a serious cough I hear coming from you?? Hmmm.... maybe a docs appt? Feelin to rung out to go to work??? I think so!!! :D
Anyway... I'm so happy for you both. That's so awesome....
Happy Holidays!!
Dec 21, 2012
colormecrazy
I wish!! I just started today so I don't think they'd appreciate it. Our plan was me quit my job until hubby was done with boot & training while I focused on school until we moved to his first duty station. That didn't happen, so I'm back to work! He will come see me on my lunch break and I GUESS I will slave through 8 more hours without him. :/
Dec 21, 2012
colormecrazy
It is going to be hilarious to see his reaction to my belly now! (I'm pregnant) He left when I wasn't really showing...now I'm pretty showing. LOL
Dec 21, 2012
glorann1978
Okay I have not posted in a while but I have been following the posts. I am so glad that everyone's SR will be home for the holidays. Enjoy your time with them. I know our son made a comment that he has learned to appreciate everything he has. I have to laugh at what he says when I ask what he wants for Christmas. He said he has it, he came home (from ship 5). He says he lived without having things for about a month so he now needs to adjust again. I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and cherish the time we have been given.
Dec 21, 2012
TxNavyDad
colorme... Well heck... It was a thought...but being the first day as you say, that wouldn't too good on your yearly evaluation... <sigh> BUT!!! The best part is almost home. That in itself should help relieve some stress for sure. Who knows, maybe the new boss has a heart and will let you go when hubby comes to see you at lunch... that would be nice...
Dec 21, 2012
Z's Mom
Just wanted to say my son came home yesterday.
He sat in the bathroom with the door closed ( a rare treat he said) and showered "by himself". He too appreciates the small things now. I have to say, I am VERY upset by the fact he came home OWING the Navy!!!! They charge for the clothes and ditty bag - and he for some reason was not given the rank he signed for, so he nows owes the government almost $200!!!!!! Beyond grateful to have him back - so I am going to focus on that......Blessings to all!!!
Dec 21, 2012
Thetwoj
Well, for those of you who live in warmer climates and still have loved ones on Ship 5, they awoke to a nice covering of clean white snow today. I'm sure their spirits are up, something about the first snowfall of the year in Chicago puts us midwesterners in a good mood. Be asured that everyone is going to have a good day today.
Dec 21, 2012
TxNavyDad
@Z's mom... The "Ditty bag" as it were isn't really a bag, but more of term for toiletries, underwear, socks, pt uniform, sweats and running shoes. Our son got hit for the $200 which he will have to pay back once the Navy sends him a bill for it. They didn't take it out of his pay since he had already been paid.
Dec 21, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 21, 2012
abbyblue
If a member of the armed forces was discharged during basic training for medical reasons, they are still considered a veteran for Federal student aid purposes so long as they served at least one day before being discharged.this is so confusing so if they get to boot camp and dont stay there more then one day ?
Dec 21, 2012
TxNavyDad
Have to be sent to ship 5 for seperation, then they have to see legal because the SR and the Navy both are both under contract, so someone who gets to bootcamp will most definately be there more than one day.
Unless of course Angie has something to say about it.
But Abby, my statement is true to the best of my knowledge since my son was seperated.
Dec 21, 2012
Alip2003
Dec 21, 2012
CAB
It's so great to see you all sharing with each other in here and standing up to "Angie." When my son was separated from boot camp earlier this year, hardly anyone was communicating in this room and so I was not comfortable writing anything because whenever anyone would post a comment, sure enough "Angie" would make a negative comment. It clearly says no critics for this group and that it is suppose to be a haven and not for those seeking to attack those in need of support! No matter the reason a recruit is separated, these are our children who had dreams and it hurts to see your children's dreams shattered no matter how old they are. My son waited a year for his ship date to only end up being separated after 5 weeks. He came home in June. He was able to receive unemployment as he had been working full-time for awhile before leaving for boot camp. After he came back, he applied for college and financial aid and he received a Pell Grant and other aid and is going to college full-time and just finished the semester with all A's and works part-time. And so life does go on. But until then, continue to be there to support each other. Support your children and spouses emotionally. Continue to ignore the things Angie says. Some things she says are correct BUT she seems to be very insensitive to those in this group who are going through a difficult time and are trying to process and understand what has happened. She is definitely not honoring what this group is suppose to be about. Merry Christmas to all. Take comfort in knowing that the New Year will bring better times ahead.
Dec 21, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 21, 2012
stephrn66
So happy to see on here that most of the SR's are actually getting processed out pretty quickly. It's stressful to try and get through a holiday knowing that they are NOT at all where they want to be. Our life is moving on as well. Registered for spring semester classes, back on my health insurance and working part time. His brother is home from school so it's been pretty much status quo like no one was ever gone. Lol Hoping you all have a very peaceful and joyous Christmas and that things will look better for the New Year!
Dec 21, 2012
Melissa (ship 5 SEP)
Jeanne- So glad he made it home. I've been thinking about you, Hope you have a very Merry Christmas. Jan 11th will be a day to remember. My SR says he is happy to be home but if he could be anyplace he would be back on that ship working for January 11th.
Dec 21, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 22, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 22, 2012
cpursley
Dec 22, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 22, 2012
cpursley
Dec 22, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 22, 2012
TxNavyDad
Hello family!!
I hope everyone's SR is home and if they are not home. they will be shortly, before New Years.
Merry Christmas and Happy New year to all.
Please update us with those who are not home yet, so we can say an extra prayer for God's speed to get them home.
Dec 24, 2012
cpursley
Dec 25, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 25, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 25, 2012
sdcel
Hello everyone - my son arrived home at 9pm Christmas Eve. It was a wonderful gift and we are so happy to have him home. We are going to take a few days to decompress before we think about the future. God bless you all - here's hoping 2013 brings good things for everyone!
Dec 26, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 26, 2012
TxNavyDad
Usualy the way things work is, they get sent to S5, then they have meet with with legal (our kids are under contract just as the Navy is) so legal has to give his options with regard to his future with the Navy. Sometimes this can take awhile, sometimes not. Then when he's done with legal, his paperwork goes to his CO to sign off and then his paperwork goes to Transportatio to finalize his departure and get his flight info.
I know, it's allot to happen before he comes home.
There's many of us in here who have gone thru this or are currently going thru this. We are all here to help you get thru this and try to answer as many questions as possible. There are plenty of shoulders to cry on, ears to listen, plenty of prayers for you and your son.
We all are family here. We all support each other here. You are not alone here. I will do my best as will many others to help you and make you a little easy as this transition is just short of total madness. We have all gone thru emotions never before thought possible in so many different ways. Don't be shy, as there is no judgement here, just compassion and understanding. Don't hesitate to cry out, YELL OUT or lash out. We understand as we too have done just that and helped each other along this very rocky road.
Dec 27, 2012
TxNavyDad
batmom... Well... his recruiter never should have told him not to disclose anything. He knows better than that. They would have found out anyway whether his knee locked up or not. They would have found out more on his background and about the Ritalin. Failure to disclose is a big issue, however, I've never heard of any prosecution because of failure to disclose, especially since his recruiter told him not to. I'm sure it can happen, I've just never heard of it. As long as they are still active duty, even on ship 5, as I understand it they are still bound by the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice).
If I'm incorrect, please someone correct me on this.
I'm not trying you scare you batsmom, just give a little background.
There have been allot of our sons/daughters get sent to ship 5 for medical issues, so your son is not alone in that regard. I can't comment on the SO contract as I've never heard of that.
Contacting the Red Cross certainly couldn't hurt. I don't know how much it would help, but I don't know that it would hurt things either. I'm sorry that I'm not allot of help right now, but what I can say is, We will keep you and your son in prayer for a speedy outcome and for a non-risky back surgery for you with fast and complete healing.
Dec 27, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 27, 2012
Janet
My son was heartbroken to be sent to ship 5 after an optometrist said he had keratoconus during the processing eye exam. This is an inherited eye condition that disqualifies you from Navy service. However, I don't think the diagnosis was correct -- he has no symptoms or family history and it has never been diagnosed before. He doesn't even wear glasses. Has anyone experienced this situation and if so was it possible to get a second opinion on the diagnosis? It seems to me like he deserves that before he's just sent home. Any advice appreciated!
Dec 27, 2012
Robynkm
Batmom, call your Congressman they really help. You may get the run around at first but don't take "NO" for an answer. We are all here for you.
Ship 5 Moms/Dads are the rock!
Dec 27, 2012
Robynkm
Batmom, call your Congressman they really help. You may get the run around at first but don't take "NO" for an answer. We are all here for you.
Ship 5 Moms/Dads are the rock!
Dec 27, 2012
sdcel
We were advised to contact our Congressman and ask for an Crongessional inquiry if we felt our son was being railroaded. His veterans affair staffer has been very helpful. Although it maybe be a long fight, he made us feel it was a process we could win.
Dec 27, 2012
cpursley
Dec 28, 2012
colormecrazy
Hi everyone! I feel really bad that I haven't been back to update y'all. But my husband made it home the Friday before Christmas! With my new job, the holidays, and wanting to spend every few seconds of my free time with him I just haven't had time to get back on here!
Batmom - I'd never thought I'd make it to the point where I'd be giving the advice. Every day goes by so slow and honestly nothing makes it better. We stayed pretty strong up until my Husbands mom decided to tell him that his grandfather was on his deathbed 2 days before he actually came home. He had a break down after finding out he wasn't on the departure list on the day they told him he would be- or the day after.
I called the Red Cross which can help if an immediate family member has gotten into a life threatening accident,life threatening illness, or death.They couldn't help me because his mom wouldn't release the medical info...which really ticked me off...like why tell him in the first place?
So then I called legal, and explained the situation and that I had a meeting with my congressman that Friday because I was running out of options. He put me on hold for a bit then came back to tell me my husband was on the departure list for that Friday. Not sure if it really helped. If you do decide to call them, know that they actually are REALLY nice people. When I called I sort of had a defensive tone at first- expecting a fight. But he was very very helpful.
I know how incredibly awful this situation is. I was deeply depressed. I think only got out of bed a couple times a week. Keep your eye on the finish line though, and stay positive. That's the best thing you can do for your son. He needs someone to be strong for him.
Dec 31, 2012
mmyers01
Doe, John
Ship 05, Seps (f) or (m)
3610 Illinois st
Great Lakes, il
60088
Sending them something may not seem like a big deal since you get to talk to them often and they are coming home soon...but I promise am hour seems like days in separations. So send them some funny jokes to pass around...send them funny pictures, send them movies or even send some girls some coloring books or word searches...the smallest thing brightens thier day.
Second thing is...when they come home...don't hound them with questions. Or even when they call. I know your eager to find out what happened but they are all above the age if 18 and adults so they will tell you if and when they are ready. And just be kind and supportive when they come home...I mean if you kid is like me they had their whole life planned around being in the military and now everything is change in an instant for them...and don't push them to do something they don't want to. Some people coming home have been told they can reenlist but some may not want to. My family is pushing me to have some pointless mom life threatening surgery that I can't afford just so I can reenlist...which I'm not sure that is the right option for me. So listen to your kids wants and just try an be supportive...and when they do call don't sound frustrated or upset on the phone hold it in until the call is over cuz that just hurts them more...just try and have a conversation about stuff that doesn't involve the military like tv shows and family events!!!
One last thing DO NOT SAY " what did you so today" or "how was your day" because they so the SAME thing every day and 90% of the time their day sucked.
Jan 1, 2013
TJsMom
Thank you to all of you for your posts!
My son is in ship 5 waiting to come home. He has been sick since the first week of BC-he said they told him he has asthma and he is coming home (that was 2 weeks ago). I know he is very upset about this but I haven't pressed for too many details over the phone.
I pray he will be home soon and ready to start his Plan B.
Jan 1, 2013
Janet
When my son first got to ship 5 he got to call me several times but now I haven't heard from him in a week, since Christmas Day. Anyone else heard from their SR lately? It's so hard every day that passes with no news about what's happening with his case.
Jan 1, 2013
Janet
Batmom - I thought it was something like that. It seems so wrong that they are treated like a "division" and everyone is grouped together - those that want out with those that desperately want back in.
Jan 1, 2013
Janet
Batmom, He must have come in about the same time as my son. I too have left messages with legal several times with no answer, but I understand they were closed for a 4-day weekend. Hopefully tomorrow...
Jan 1, 2013