Hello moms - Does anyone know what type of mental evals the Sub Nuke candidates go through during OCS in addition to the standard medical test performed at NICNI during the first week?
Anna: Wow! I had no idea the Navy was involved in this site's creation! I thought it was just started by Moms of sailors as a support group. Must be why the recruiters recommend it to moms of prospective sailors. Now I'm cringing because we were joking a while back about calling the Secretary of the Navy with our complaints. "Just kidding, SECNAV Mabus. The Navy has my full support!" ;-) (Hope I won't have any NSA agents knocking on my door!)
Rosemom: Sorry I don't have any knowledge of the Sub Nukes, so I can't help. Anyone reading this with a LO who is a sub nuke officer who can answer Rosemom? Maybe ask your LO about the mental eval they had at OCS? There are groups here on N4M's called "Sub Moms" and "Nuke Moms," but I believe they are mostly moms of enlisted sailors in those areas, and may not be able to address the OCS experience.
Good morning everyone, quick question, I was making a dentist appt for my LO before he leaves and it donned on me, does my LO have his own insurance!! LOL So I asked my LO do you have your own insurance card, and he said no, I don't think so...So my question is, are they issued their own insurance and card??? Thank you in advance!!!
Thank you everyone!!! I will get my LO on it!! When I asked him this morning, he said all he could remember about OCS, was how to put his face in the mud, get yelled at 24/7 and do 100 push-ups on command LOL LOL LOL
Rosemom, my son is Sub Nuke. He had a battery of psych evals during the application process for NUPOC to determine whether character/personality traits are compatible with Subs. Then the selection weekend puts them under stress to evaluate performance under those conditions. But OCS really ratchets up the stress factor and they are evaluated throughout the program. From a physical testing perspective, they look very closely at any respiratory issues. There were 2 disqualified in my son's class for physical. They both reclassed as surface Nuke.
Quiter: I believe they fill out the paperwork for Tricare on the day they report to OCS, and I think they are covered from that point on. My son took a flight physical three weeks into OCS and they determined that he had a heart valve anomaly that about one percent of the population have. They sent him to the civilian hospital in Newport to have an MRI and all these cardiac tests to be sure it wasn't serious.
You can imagine how concerned we were when our son called and said, "They think there is something wrong with my heart." Yikes! --And here he was doing all that running and physical training; I was afraid he might have a heart attack! Turns out it was minor and likely never to cause him any trouble, even though it DQ'd him for flight. Whew!
My point of this story is that we started to receive some massive bills in his name at our home address from the civilian hospital and cardiologist consults etc. but Tricare paid for everything, thank goodness. Your son should have dental coverage too, but not all civilian dentists accept Tricare.
I imagine it does take a special kind of person to serve on a submarine. Of course, they can't be claustrophobic, and they must be able to get along with others in close quarters in a stressful environment. When those nuclear subs submerge, they can be submerged for a LONG time! I seriously doubt that I could do it myself. I like to be ALONE now and then, and I doubt that there's any privacy on a sub! Bless all the submariners for their service!
Quilter: Sorry, I see that I just called you "Quiter" in my comment below on Tricare!!!!!!!! I don't see where this site allows one to "edit" a post, only delete it all and type it all again. It's quicker just to apologize for the typo! :-)
Sorry you didn't know about who ran this site but I don't think you have to worry about men showing up at your front door!!! I'm sure the Sec of the Navy has a sense of humor. There are actually brochures the Navy put out about N4Ms. If you have a recruiting office nearby see if they have any. They are pretty sweet!!!!
Oh, if it the worst happens and they come for you, I'll be a character witness for you!!!!!! ha ha ha
Thanks for the offer, but I hope I won't have to post a plea for bail money! ha ha I will just have to be more careful in knowing that Big Brother Navy is probably reading this also!
Since our sons are both in Intel, and don't tell us much about what they do, wouldn't it be ironic if one of them had the job to monitor this website for subversive postings? I hope my son doesn't email me sometime and write, "Mom, you've got to stop sharing so much on N4M's." Me: "WHAT???" hahaha
GalleyMom: ha ha! When my son was in OCS, we were told to be CAREFUL about what we posted on our class's Facebook page because OCS was monitoring these pages! Apparently there were instances where somebody posted about how mean and unfair a certain DI was, and it resulted in punishment for the candidates! Make sure your class's Facebook page knows this. You could post, "MY son says his DI "Smith" is the most respectful, encouraging, and motivating leader ever!" LOL
GalleyMom: Yes, it is hard on the sailors' "significant others" when their LO's are away on a ship. My son just celebrated his second wedding anniversary and he was gone for 10 months of it, at sea on the carrier USS Carl Vinson. But, his wife knew what she was getting into when they got married. My husband and I kept in touch with D-I-L and sent her little care packages so she felt our support. She will be able to go with him to his next duty station at a base in Japan, so they are both happy about that.
What kind of a ship will your son be assigned to, and where is its home port? (You don't have to tell the ship's name if you think that might be too sensitive info.) Hopefully, he and the GF can make things work out.
GalleyMom: Norfolk is a nice area. My son was in Intelligence School for 8 mos. at Oceana Naval Air Station in Virginia Beach, which just out on the coast from Norfolk.
When DS was a teenager, we visited Norfolk and VB on a vacation. Never dreamed at the time that he would one day be stationed there in the Navy! If you visit your son in Norfolk, make sure you check out the Nauticus museum in downtown Norfolk. It's all about ships, and the battleship USS Wisconsin is there to tour.
In a weird coincidence, when we were at Nauticus about ten yrs ago with our then-teenaged son, he bought a big poster at the gift shop with drawings of one of each kind of all the US Navy warships. There was a missile cruiser, a destroyer, an aircraft carrier, several kinds of subs, etc. It is still hanging in "his" room today. (I've gotta clean that out one of these days!) A few months ago while he was deployed, I went in his room and just happened to look up at that poster, and the aircraft carrier depicted is CVN-70, the USS CARL VINSON, the very ship he was then aboard !!!!!!!! (goosebumps) I had never really looked at that poster in ten years, but there was his ship! Felt one of those strange mother/child psychic connection moments!!!!
That is a crazy, yet special story!!! Who would have guessed. My son went to Dam Neck for IS school. I guess they use Oceana for the officers. Although he was stationed at Oceana for his first 4 years when he was an AO. He deployed on the Geo Washington and the Enterprise. I love that whole area of WA - Norfolk, Oceana, VB, the ocean . . .
Anna: The officer's intel school is also at Dam Neck , which is an annex of Oceana, but no one outside of the intel community has heard of it, so I just say he was at Oceana. It's only a few miles away. My son said he shopped at the NEX at Oceana because it was close to his off-base apartment. When we went to Virginia Beach for DS's graduation from intel school, we got a hotel right on the beach and had hoped to enjoy some fun in the sun since it was June, but a tropical storm hit the day after we arrived, and it rained for three days!!!! My son said that wasn't as bad as when hurricane Sandy roared through VB the previous October. Glad we missed that!
Gotta love those plans we make when heading to a beach and then have Mother Nature have other plans. My son is in Norfolk now (although presently he is deployed) and I was able to visit a year ago in early May. It was beautiful weather and we got to spend some time on the beach!!! I really hope we get a chance to visit with him and his family between the time he comes back from this deployment and before they leave for Hawaii!!!
GalleyMom: Congrats to your son! Graduation is in sight! Hope you're packing some special goodies to send in DS's Candi-O box. He deserves it. The candidate officers have not been allowed between-meal snacks or desserts for the first nine weeks, so they have been pretty much "detoxed" from sugar. When they get their Candio boxes, they all gorge and make themselves sick!!! I sent my son his favorite homemade cookies, and he said he could only eat a few before he had to pass them around to everybody else. That would have been unheard of for him to share them in college!
But, he said OCS taught him that he doesn't need all that sugar and he actually feels better without it, so he still doesn't eat as many sweets as he used to. But since he's back from his 10-month deployment on the aircraft carrier, he says his dear wife is trying to feed him to death!!!! She's quite the little cook, and said she's been saving up recipes that would have been way too much to make just for herself, so now DS is the recipient of her pent-up cooking/baking urges. He loves it!!! Haha
Congratulations to your son!!! He's almost there now!!!
I just got a phone call this morning - my Sailor Son is back on US soil after a stressful deployment. So happy to have him back home with his family!!!!
GalleyMom: My son's Hi Moms was a cocktail reception with appetizers at a swanky downtown Newport hotel. Most of the women were in dresses, but some wore dressy slacks. The men were dressed in everything from sport coat & tie to khakis and polo shirts. The candidates will be in their summer whites. Graduation seemed to be more casual. I think I wore dress slacks and nice top to that. Many wore jeans. The new Ensigns will be in their "choker" (high-collar) dress white coats, so if you will be taking pics with your son afterward, you may want to consider what you want to be photographed in standing next to such a handsome Naval officer!
Re: the Candio box. One box is enough because they all get so much and share it with each other. They can't possibly eat all they are sent, so lots of it gets thrown out when they leave, so I tell moms not to go overboard.
Re: My D-I-L fattening up my son: Thank goodness DS still has to pass physical fitness assessments every six months so he is forced to work out and stay in shape!! D-I-L is one of those maddeningly skinny little things who weighs probably 105 pounds soaking wet, yet she eats like a horse! She's always eating candy and always orders dessert when we take them out to dinner. I am green with envy of her because I am, ahem, NOT like that!! I've told DS that his metabolism will likely slow down when he hits thirty, so he'll have to start watching what he eats. Hopefully D-I-L will not pout then if he starts refusing seconds of her delicious meals! haha
Anna: Wonderful news that your son is safely back home!! I know the feeling of relief. I think you mentioned him going to Hawaii soon? Hopefully his family will be able to go with him there. Not a bad duty station, just so FAR from the mainland to visit.
Anna: Yes, getting to Hawaii is a long haul. Hubby and I went to Hawaii on vacation several years ago, and by the time we changed planes twice and had weather delays, it took us about 20 hours to arrive in Honolulu from the time we left home. (We're Midwesterners.) Hubby vows if we ever go back, we will fly to the west coast and spend the night, then fly on to Hawaii the next day. Our son and wife will be stationed in Japan in January, and hubby isn't too thrilled at making that even longer journey! Maybe we can fly to CA one day, then HI the next, then to Tokyo the next day, thereby breaking up the in-flight time.
I couldn't conceive of flying to Japan. Years ago I had a flight to London when my oldest son's high school band was invited to march in the London parade. I thought I was going to go crazy on that flight!!! I just can't handle long flights any more!!! Hope you do get to go visit with him and his wife. That would be awesome!!!!
I'm not sure whether this should go on the wall or if I should make a discussion. I dropped my husband off at OCS this Sunday and would like to start sending mail. I'm a little confused about what his class number should be though.
I have the rest of the address for mail but I have two different "class numbers" The number my husband gave me says "class 51401" but I've seen that the July 26 class is "0116" I'm not sure which set of numbers to substitute in the "XX-XX" portion of the address.... any advice? Thanks
(I've also been looking for a facebook group for this class but I can't seem to find one, anyone know about this?)
I would go with the 01-16 number if he is in the July 26 class. If he is in the next class then it would be 02-16. Either way he will get your mail. It will take a little bit for them to get their facebook page up and running. You can also follow the Officers Training Command Newport facebook because they update pictures almost every week of each class once they start.
I will send it addressed to the 01-16 number. I have looked for a fb page and don't see one yet, so I guess I'll just keep checking back. I've "liked" the OTCN page and have peeked through a couple pictures from past classes. I'm not sure whether seeing those is helpful or just more nerve wracking! lol, thanks again!
it is nerve racking, hang in there. My son really liked getting mail so write as often as you can. He wont be able to talk to you for the first 3 weeks but can send you letters when he has time. They are very busy studying and getting ready for inspections so dont worry too much if he doesnt write often. I know the first 3 weeks are the hardest on them and on their love ones at home so hang in there it does go by pretty fast.
TxNavyWife: I agree with Tiggermanic and use 01-16. You may hear later that his is in Alpha or Bravo company. Then, start addressing his letter 01-16A or 01-16B. But don't worry, the letters find their way to them. He won't receive mail the first week but do write. He will need to get some mail after that first hard week. As for the Facebook page, there could be one but it is set to "secret" so then, unfortunately you can't find it. Next week when the OTC page (hopefully) posts pictures and starts an album for 01-16, you can comment on that album asking if there is a Facebook page for that class. Someone maybe able to give you a pointer or get you invited to the group. Or you may want to start one yourself. I bet other Friends and Family are looking for one as well! The last few classes have used the name format "Navy OCS xx-xx Friends & Family" and set their privacy to "closed". Closed lets people see there is a group, ask to join, but not what the posts are. Hang in there. Feel free to ask questions on here, even if you find a Facebook page.
Thanks guys! I knew this site would be helpful again! I never thought we'd be doing the whole boot camp thing again, but here we are! If I don't see a fb group sometime this week I may go ahead and start one. 1 day down 81 to go! lol
I have a question for this group of experienced women. My son was accepted in March (supply officer), graduated college in May. We are waiting on his report date. So far he has been told that his letter is waiting to be signed. How long did your loved ones wait between acceptance and report date? Needless to say my son is ready to report ASAP! Thanks!
Doreen: OCS tends to group the candidates into classes with similar designators, for instance my son's OCS class were all either aviators (pilot or NFO) or nuclear officers. They may be gathering a class of supply officers before they schedule your son. Things can change quickly. My son graduated in May 2012, and was told he would not be reporting until maybe December. Then, his recruiter called and said they had moved him up to June 14th! So your son should memorize NOW all that Navy knowledge they are expected to know, and work out like crazy to get in excellent shape, and he will be glad he did when he gets to OCS!
TxNavyWife: I agree with the others-- I think the OCS class started on July 26 is 01-16. Looks like that class is set to graduate (provided some don't "roll" back) on October 16. The reason for the confusing class numbering is that the Navy begins their new fiscal year on Oct 1. So the first OCS class to graduate after October 1, 2015 becomes 01-16, and so on, every three weeks.
You will not hear much from your LO (loved one) for three weeks, but do write letters as much as you can. Letters are the candidates' only connection to the outside world for several weeks until they pass the dreaded RLP inspection at 3-4 weeks, then they are usually allowed email. You will hear much more from him after he gets email.
Make sure everyone you give his address to knows to send ONLY letters, in plain white regular or business-sized envelopes. NO musical cards or decorated envelopes and no "contraband" (which is anything but letters) Some DI's don't even allow them to be sent loose photographs, but you can photocopy or print photos into the letter itself. I believe they can also be sent postage stamps and phone cards, because they are allowed to have those, but do not let anybody send him treats of any kind before he becomes a Candi-O at week ten, or he will be punished!
Thanks everyone for your advice. My son is doing all his PT work prior to reporting and is in great shape. He goes in spurts on memorizing the stuff. He is just ready to get there and start that next phase in his life.
GalleyMom: Hope you are planning some extra time in Newport so you can maybe tour some of those "summer cottages" of the late 1800's old rich, like The Breakers or Marble House. (Which folks like me would call "fabulous mansions" and not summer cottages! haha)
Help! I was running some errands today and realized that we forgot to pick up a phone card for my husband who started OCS last Sunday. Am I allowed to send him one in the mail? Would it be better to just photo copy the front and back so it's not detected as something other than paper?
Will he even need one? Or will they send him to the nex if he didn't have one? Things at OCS sound so much stricter than we had to deal with when he was at boot camp, I don't want to do anything wrong, or get him unfavorably noticed.
I checked the OCS website packing list and didn't see phone cards on there, but I swear I saw it somewhere that they needed one (maybe this was left over info/thinking from our bootcamp days)
As of a few classes ago (14-15 or 15-15), they didn't call until the end of week 3. So you have time.
I can't say with 100% certainly if it would be better to photocopy it. If you don't want to worry about getting on the wrong side of a rule, I would say to photocopy it. I can tell you that he should be fine, at least the first week or two of calling without one. My son said that there were a lot of cards by the phones. Once the OCs get their phones back, I am guessing they leave their phone cards by the phones.
I didn't know anything about the need for phone cards and had a similar panicked moment. I didn't even know where to get a phone card. I found https://attprepaidcard.amssupport.net/ and got one online. They don't actual mail you a card. They just show you the information on your screen. I printed that out and mailed it to my son. You will also see they have a discount for military. I actually used that. It just asked for my son's name. His name is on the credit card I used (leftover from when he was in college). I don't know if it would work if the name you enter isn't on the credit card you use but worth a try, if you haven't already purchased one.
But whatever you decide, I am sure it will be just fine!
TxNavyWife: I don't think they actually NEED to have phone cards, but if you want him to call you when he is allowed to do so, after week three or so, he will have to do it from a pay phone, so he will need a pre-paid phone card. I think you are allowed to send those in the mail because the candidates are allowed to have those in their possession.
If they are allowed to go to the NEX, he could buy one there. I think some folks on here said you could buy the cards at Walgreens stores. I'm not sure I would be comfortable just buying an "image" of a card online like CL, ---just "old school" me!!! Get a card with LOTS of minutes, because when my son was at OCS, the pay phones charged the cards 15 minutes just to connect the call before you even talked!!!!!!! My son's class were not given their cell phones back until they became Candios at week ten, but it varies with what their DI allows.
I will go ahead and try to find a pre paid phone card to tomorrow. I'll sleep on whether to just send the card or send a copy of it. Since there's no mail Sunday I've got some time. I figured they don't get their phones back til their last phase, but I definitely want a phone call if he's given the opportunity. I think it would feel pretty miserable on his end to not be able to call if he didn't have one (and was unable to get one via by the phone or from another candidate). Thanks for your experience and expertise! It's different being back on the learning side again. I considered myself pretty knowledgeable after boot camp, but I feel like I'm having to learn this all over again!
GalleyMom, thank you SO much for that little tidbit! Almost made me cry! (First week with no contact I think is the hardest). I will probably go ahead and just send the phone card. I've been keeping a look out for any photos on the FB page but have yet to see anything. I'm a little jealous of the families from the class before his, as it looks like they even had pictures of the first day just a week in! I understand it's not guaranteed to happen, but it would be nice to see.
Thanks again, would you let me know if your son feeds you anything else about that class?
Rosemom
Hello moms - Does anyone know what type of mental evals the Sub Nuke candidates go through during OCS in addition to the standard medical test performed at NICNI during the first week?
Jun 30, 2015
Anna
M'sMom,
This website is managed and was created by the Navy out of the Navy Recruiting Command at Millington.
Jul 1, 2015
M's mom
Anna: Wow! I had no idea the Navy was involved in this site's creation! I thought it was just started by Moms of sailors as a support group. Must be why the recruiters recommend it to moms of prospective sailors. Now I'm cringing because we were joking a while back about calling the Secretary of the Navy with our complaints. "Just kidding, SECNAV Mabus. The Navy has my full support!" ;-) (Hope I won't have any NSA agents knocking on my door!)
Jul 1, 2015
M's mom
Rosemom: Sorry I don't have any knowledge of the Sub Nukes, so I can't help. Anyone reading this with a LO who is a sub nuke officer who can answer Rosemom? Maybe ask your LO about the mental eval they had at OCS? There are groups here on N4M's called "Sub Moms" and "Nuke Moms," but I believe they are mostly moms of enlisted sailors in those areas, and may not be able to address the OCS experience.
Jul 1, 2015
Rosemom
M's mom: Thanks I'll take a look at the groups you mentioned and if anyone has any more info please let me know.
Jul 2, 2015
Quilter
Good morning everyone, quick question, I was making a dentist appt for my LO before he leaves and it donned on me, does my LO have his own insurance!! LOL So I asked my LO do you have your own insurance card, and he said no, I don't think so...So my question is, are they issued their own insurance and card??? Thank you in advance!!!
Jul 2, 2015
Tiggermanic
I believe your LO wont have insurance until they get to OCS and get all the paperwork done. Once there they will get all that info.
Jul 2, 2015
Quilter
I might be in trouble LOL!! My LO graduated from OCS 1st part of June!! So I'm guessing he has it, and doesn't know he has it!! That's my LO!!!
Jul 2, 2015
Tiggermanic
I know their insurance is thru Tri-care but not sure about dental. Your LO could probably ask someone he is working with if he is home on OHARP.
Jul 2, 2015
CindyN
Not sure if this is the best website for their benefits but you can find some info here: http://www.military.com/benefits/tricare/dental/tricare-active-duty...
As Tiggermanic suggested, checking with someone he is working with on OHARP may be the best source of information.
Jul 2, 2015
Quilter
Thank you everyone!!! I will get my LO on it!! When I asked him this morning, he said all he could remember about OCS, was how to put his face in the mud, get yelled at 24/7 and do 100 push-ups on command LOL LOL LOL
Jul 2, 2015
ITgal
Rosemom, my son is Sub Nuke. He had a battery of psych evals during the application process for NUPOC to determine whether character/personality traits are compatible with Subs. Then the selection weekend puts them under stress to evaluate performance under those conditions. But OCS really ratchets up the stress factor and they are evaluated throughout the program. From a physical testing perspective, they look very closely at any respiratory issues. There were 2 disqualified in my son's class for physical. They both reclassed as surface Nuke.
Jul 2, 2015
M's mom
Quiter: I believe they fill out the paperwork for Tricare on the day they report to OCS, and I think they are covered from that point on. My son took a flight physical three weeks into OCS and they determined that he had a heart valve anomaly that about one percent of the population have. They sent him to the civilian hospital in Newport to have an MRI and all these cardiac tests to be sure it wasn't serious.
You can imagine how concerned we were when our son called and said, "They think there is something wrong with my heart." Yikes! --And here he was doing all that running and physical training; I was afraid he might have a heart attack! Turns out it was minor and likely never to cause him any trouble, even though it DQ'd him for flight. Whew!
My point of this story is that we started to receive some massive bills in his name at our home address from the civilian hospital and cardiologist consults etc. but Tricare paid for everything, thank goodness. Your son should have dental coverage too, but not all civilian dentists accept Tricare.
Jul 2, 2015
M's mom
Rosemom & ITgal:
I imagine it does take a special kind of person to serve on a submarine. Of course, they can't be claustrophobic, and they must be able to get along with others in close quarters in a stressful environment. When those nuclear subs submerge, they can be submerged for a LONG time! I seriously doubt that I could do it myself. I like to be ALONE now and then, and I doubt that there's any privacy on a sub! Bless all the submariners for their service!
Jul 2, 2015
M's mom
Quilter: Sorry, I see that I just called you "Quiter" in my comment below on Tricare!!!!!!!! I don't see where this site allows one to "edit" a post, only delete it all and type it all again. It's quicker just to apologize for the typo! :-)
Jul 2, 2015
Anna
M'sMom,
Sorry you didn't know about who ran this site but I don't think you have to worry about men showing up at your front door!!! I'm sure the Sec of the Navy has a sense of humor. There are actually brochures the Navy put out about N4Ms. If you have a recruiting office nearby see if they have any. They are pretty sweet!!!!
Oh, if it the worst happens and they come for you, I'll be a character witness for you!!!!!! ha ha ha
Jul 2, 2015
M's mom
Anna,
Thanks for the offer, but I hope I won't have to post a plea for bail money! ha ha I will just have to be more careful in knowing that Big Brother Navy is probably reading this also!
Since our sons are both in Intel, and don't tell us much about what they do, wouldn't it be ironic if one of them had the job to monitor this website for subversive postings? I hope my son doesn't email me sometime and write, "Mom, you've got to stop sharing so much on N4M's." Me: "WHAT???" hahaha
Jul 2, 2015
M's mom
GalleyMom: ha ha! When my son was in OCS, we were told to be CAREFUL about what we posted on our class's Facebook page because OCS was monitoring these pages! Apparently there were instances where somebody posted about how mean and unfair a certain DI was, and it resulted in punishment for the candidates! Make sure your class's Facebook page knows this. You could post, "MY son says his DI "Smith" is the most respectful, encouraging, and motivating leader ever!" LOL
BTW, when is your son's graduation date?
Jul 3, 2015
M's mom
GalleyMom: Yes, it is hard on the sailors' "significant others" when their LO's are away on a ship. My son just celebrated his second wedding anniversary and he was gone for 10 months of it, at sea on the carrier USS Carl Vinson. But, his wife knew what she was getting into when they got married. My husband and I kept in touch with D-I-L and sent her little care packages so she felt our support. She will be able to go with him to his next duty station at a base in Japan, so they are both happy about that.
What kind of a ship will your son be assigned to, and where is its home port? (You don't have to tell the ship's name if you think that might be too sensitive info.) Hopefully, he and the GF can make things work out.
Jul 3, 2015
M's mom
GalleyMom: Norfolk is a nice area. My son was in Intelligence School for 8 mos. at Oceana Naval Air Station in Virginia Beach, which just out on the coast from Norfolk.
When DS was a teenager, we visited Norfolk and VB on a vacation. Never dreamed at the time that he would one day be stationed there in the Navy! If you visit your son in Norfolk, make sure you check out the Nauticus museum in downtown Norfolk. It's all about ships, and the battleship USS Wisconsin is there to tour.
In a weird coincidence, when we were at Nauticus about ten yrs ago with our then-teenaged son, he bought a big poster at the gift shop with drawings of one of each kind of all the US Navy warships. There was a missile cruiser, a destroyer, an aircraft carrier, several kinds of subs, etc. It is still hanging in "his" room today. (I've gotta clean that out one of these days!) A few months ago while he was deployed, I went in his room and just happened to look up at that poster, and the aircraft carrier depicted is CVN-70, the USS CARL VINSON, the very ship he was then aboard !!!!!!!! (goosebumps) I had never really looked at that poster in ten years, but there was his ship! Felt one of those strange mother/child psychic connection moments!!!!
Jul 6, 2015
Anna
M's mom,
That is a crazy, yet special story!!! Who would have guessed. My son went to Dam Neck for IS school. I guess they use Oceana for the officers. Although he was stationed at Oceana for his first 4 years when he was an AO. He deployed on the Geo Washington and the Enterprise. I love that whole area of WA - Norfolk, Oceana, VB, the ocean . . .
Jul 6, 2015
Anna
VA not WA!!!!
Jul 6, 2015
M's mom
Anna: The officer's intel school is also at Dam Neck , which is an annex of Oceana, but no one outside of the intel community has heard of it, so I just say he was at Oceana. It's only a few miles away. My son said he shopped at the NEX at Oceana because it was close to his off-base apartment. When we went to Virginia Beach for DS's graduation from intel school, we got a hotel right on the beach and had hoped to enjoy some fun in the sun since it was June, but a tropical storm hit the day after we arrived, and it rained for three days!!!! My son said that wasn't as bad as when hurricane Sandy roared through VB the previous October. Glad we missed that!
Jul 7, 2015
Anna
M's mom,
Gotta love those plans we make when heading to a beach and then have Mother Nature have other plans. My son is in Norfolk now (although presently he is deployed) and I was able to visit a year ago in early May. It was beautiful weather and we got to spend some time on the beach!!! I really hope we get a chance to visit with him and his family between the time he comes back from this deployment and before they leave for Hawaii!!!
Jul 7, 2015
Cheyann
Here is the Facebook page for friends and family of the the class of 17-15. That is those who report to OCS on July 5th, 2015.
Hope to meet you soon!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/689817314485632/members/
Jul 8, 2015
M's mom
GalleyMom: Congrats to your son! Graduation is in sight! Hope you're packing some special goodies to send in DS's Candi-O box. He deserves it. The candidate officers have not been allowed between-meal snacks or desserts for the first nine weeks, so they have been pretty much "detoxed" from sugar. When they get their Candio boxes, they all gorge and make themselves sick!!! I sent my son his favorite homemade cookies, and he said he could only eat a few before he had to pass them around to everybody else. That would have been unheard of for him to share them in college!
But, he said OCS taught him that he doesn't need all that sugar and he actually feels better without it, so he still doesn't eat as many sweets as he used to. But since he's back from his 10-month deployment on the aircraft carrier, he says his dear wife is trying to feed him to death!!!! She's quite the little cook, and said she's been saving up recipes that would have been way too much to make just for herself, so now DS is the recipient of her pent-up cooking/baking urges. He loves it!!! Haha
Jul 17, 2015
Anna
GalleyMom,
Congratulations to your son!!! He's almost there now!!!
I just got a phone call this morning - my Sailor Son is back on US soil after a stressful deployment. So happy to have him back home with his family!!!!
Jul 18, 2015
M's mom
GalleyMom: My son's Hi Moms was a cocktail reception with appetizers at a swanky downtown Newport hotel. Most of the women were in dresses, but some wore dressy slacks. The men were dressed in everything from sport coat & tie to khakis and polo shirts. The candidates will be in their summer whites. Graduation seemed to be more casual. I think I wore dress slacks and nice top to that. Many wore jeans. The new Ensigns will be in their "choker" (high-collar) dress white coats, so if you will be taking pics with your son afterward, you may want to consider what you want to be photographed in standing next to such a handsome Naval officer!
Re: the Candio box. One box is enough because they all get so much and share it with each other. They can't possibly eat all they are sent, so lots of it gets thrown out when they leave, so I tell moms not to go overboard.
Re: My D-I-L fattening up my son: Thank goodness DS still has to pass physical fitness assessments every six months so he is forced to work out and stay in shape!! D-I-L is one of those maddeningly skinny little things who weighs probably 105 pounds soaking wet, yet she eats like a horse! She's always eating candy and always orders dessert when we take them out to dinner. I am green with envy of her because I am, ahem, NOT like that!! I've told DS that his metabolism will likely slow down when he hits thirty, so he'll have to start watching what he eats. Hopefully D-I-L will not pout then if he starts refusing seconds of her delicious meals! haha
Jul 18, 2015
M's mom
Anna: Wonderful news that your son is safely back home!! I know the feeling of relief. I think you mentioned him going to Hawaii soon? Hopefully his family will be able to go with him there. Not a bad duty station, just so FAR from the mainland to visit.
Jul 18, 2015
Anna
M's mom,
Yes his family will be going with him to Hawaii. And the hardest part will be us trying to get over there to visit them!!!!
Jul 18, 2015
M's mom
Anna: Yes, getting to Hawaii is a long haul. Hubby and I went to Hawaii on vacation several years ago, and by the time we changed planes twice and had weather delays, it took us about 20 hours to arrive in Honolulu from the time we left home. (We're Midwesterners.) Hubby vows if we ever go back, we will fly to the west coast and spend the night, then fly on to Hawaii the next day. Our son and wife will be stationed in Japan in January, and hubby isn't too thrilled at making that even longer journey! Maybe we can fly to CA one day, then HI the next, then to Tokyo the next day, thereby breaking up the in-flight time.
Jul 19, 2015
Anna
M's mom,
I couldn't conceive of flying to Japan. Years ago I had a flight to London when my oldest son's high school band was invited to march in the London parade. I thought I was going to go crazy on that flight!!! I just can't handle long flights any more!!! Hope you do get to go visit with him and his wife. That would be awesome!!!!
Jul 19, 2015
TxNavyWife
I'm not sure whether this should go on the wall or if I should make a discussion. I dropped my husband off at OCS this Sunday and would like to start sending mail. I'm a little confused about what his class number should be though.
I have the rest of the address for mail but I have two different "class numbers" The number my husband gave me says "class 51401" but I've seen that the July 26 class is "0116" I'm not sure which set of numbers to substitute in the "XX-XX" portion of the address.... any advice? Thanks
(I've also been looking for a facebook group for this class but I can't seem to find one, anyone know about this?)
Jul 27, 2015
Tiggermanic
I would go with the 01-16 number if he is in the July 26 class. If he is in the next class then it would be 02-16. Either way he will get your mail. It will take a little bit for them to get their facebook page up and running. You can also follow the Officers Training Command Newport facebook because they update pictures almost every week of each class once they start.
Jul 27, 2015
TxNavyWife
Thanks for the quick response, Tigger!
I will send it addressed to the 01-16 number. I have looked for a fb page and don't see one yet, so I guess I'll just keep checking back. I've "liked" the OTCN page and have peeked through a couple pictures from past classes. I'm not sure whether seeing those is helpful or just more nerve wracking! lol, thanks again!
Jul 27, 2015
Tiggermanic
it is nerve racking, hang in there. My son really liked getting mail so write as often as you can. He wont be able to talk to you for the first 3 weeks but can send you letters when he has time. They are very busy studying and getting ready for inspections so dont worry too much if he doesnt write often. I know the first 3 weeks are the hardest on them and on their love ones at home so hang in there it does go by pretty fast.
Jul 27, 2015
CindyN
TxNavyWife: I agree with Tiggermanic and use 01-16. You may hear later that his is in Alpha or Bravo company. Then, start addressing his letter 01-16A or 01-16B. But don't worry, the letters find their way to them. He won't receive mail the first week but do write. He will need to get some mail after that first hard week. As for the Facebook page, there could be one but it is set to "secret" so then, unfortunately you can't find it. Next week when the OTC page (hopefully) posts pictures and starts an album for 01-16, you can comment on that album asking if there is a Facebook page for that class. Someone maybe able to give you a pointer or get you invited to the group. Or you may want to start one yourself. I bet other Friends and Family are looking for one as well! The last few classes have used the name format "Navy OCS xx-xx Friends & Family" and set their privacy to "closed". Closed lets people see there is a group, ask to join, but not what the posts are. Hang in there. Feel free to ask questions on here, even if you find a Facebook page.
Jul 27, 2015
TxNavyWife
Thanks guys! I knew this site would be helpful again! I never thought we'd be doing the whole boot camp thing again, but here we are! If I don't see a fb group sometime this week I may go ahead and start one. 1 day down 81 to go! lol
Jul 27, 2015
Doreen
Jul 27, 2015
Manette
My son reported seven months the after he was accepted. He is Civil Engineering Corps.
Jul 27, 2015
Tiggermanic
I think it depends on what job they will be doing. It took them almost a year before he got his date to report but he is a pilot.
Jul 27, 2015
M's mom
Doreen: OCS tends to group the candidates into classes with similar designators, for instance my son's OCS class were all either aviators (pilot or NFO) or nuclear officers. They may be gathering a class of supply officers before they schedule your son. Things can change quickly. My son graduated in May 2012, and was told he would not be reporting until maybe December. Then, his recruiter called and said they had moved him up to June 14th! So your son should memorize NOW all that Navy knowledge they are expected to know, and work out like crazy to get in excellent shape, and he will be glad he did when he gets to OCS!
Jul 27, 2015
M's mom
TxNavyWife: I agree with the others-- I think the OCS class started on July 26 is 01-16. Looks like that class is set to graduate (provided some don't "roll" back) on October 16. The reason for the confusing class numbering is that the Navy begins their new fiscal year on Oct 1. So the first OCS class to graduate after October 1, 2015 becomes 01-16, and so on, every three weeks.
You will not hear much from your LO (loved one) for three weeks, but do write letters as much as you can. Letters are the candidates' only connection to the outside world for several weeks until they pass the dreaded RLP inspection at 3-4 weeks, then they are usually allowed email. You will hear much more from him after he gets email.
Make sure everyone you give his address to knows to send ONLY letters, in plain white regular or business-sized envelopes. NO musical cards or decorated envelopes and no "contraband" (which is anything but letters) Some DI's don't even allow them to be sent loose photographs, but you can photocopy or print photos into the letter itself. I believe they can also be sent postage stamps and phone cards, because they are allowed to have those, but do not let anybody send him treats of any kind before he becomes a Candi-O at week ten, or he will be punished!
Jul 27, 2015
Doreen
Thanks everyone for your advice. My son is doing all his PT work prior to reporting and is in great shape. He goes in spurts on memorizing the stuff. He is just ready to get there and start that next phase in his life.
Jul 28, 2015
M's mom
GalleyMom: Hope you are planning some extra time in Newport so you can maybe tour some of those "summer cottages" of the late 1800's old rich, like The Breakers or Marble House. (Which folks like me would call "fabulous mansions" and not summer cottages! haha)
Jul 28, 2015
TxNavyWife
Help! I was running some errands today and realized that we forgot to pick up a phone card for my husband who started OCS last Sunday. Am I allowed to send him one in the mail? Would it be better to just photo copy the front and back so it's not detected as something other than paper?
Will he even need one? Or will they send him to the nex if he didn't have one? Things at OCS sound so much stricter than we had to deal with when he was at boot camp, I don't want to do anything wrong, or get him unfavorably noticed.
I checked the OCS website packing list and didn't see phone cards on there, but I swear I saw it somewhere that they needed one (maybe this was left over info/thinking from our bootcamp days)
Any experience on this? Thanks
Aug 1, 2015
CindyN
As of a few classes ago (14-15 or 15-15), they didn't call until the end of week 3. So you have time.
I can't say with 100% certainly if it would be better to photocopy it. If you don't want to worry about getting on the wrong side of a rule, I would say to photocopy it. I can tell you that he should be fine, at least the first week or two of calling without one. My son said that there were a lot of cards by the phones. Once the OCs get their phones back, I am guessing they leave their phone cards by the phones.
I didn't know anything about the need for phone cards and had a similar panicked moment. I didn't even know where to get a phone card. I found https://attprepaidcard.amssupport.net/ and got one online. They don't actual mail you a card. They just show you the information on your screen. I printed that out and mailed it to my son. You will also see they have a discount for military. I actually used that. It just asked for my son's name. His name is on the credit card I used (leftover from when he was in college). I don't know if it would work if the name you enter isn't on the credit card you use but worth a try, if you haven't already purchased one.
But whatever you decide, I am sure it will be just fine!
Aug 1, 2015
M's mom
TxNavyWife: I don't think they actually NEED to have phone cards, but if you want him to call you when he is allowed to do so, after week three or so, he will have to do it from a pay phone, so he will need a pre-paid phone card. I think you are allowed to send those in the mail because the candidates are allowed to have those in their possession.
If they are allowed to go to the NEX, he could buy one there. I think some folks on here said you could buy the cards at Walgreens stores. I'm not sure I would be comfortable just buying an "image" of a card online like CL, ---just "old school" me!!! Get a card with LOTS of minutes, because when my son was at OCS, the pay phones charged the cards 15 minutes just to connect the call before you even talked!!!!!!! My son's class were not given their cell phones back until they became Candios at week ten, but it varies with what their DI allows.
Aug 1, 2015
TxNavyWife
Thanks CL and M's mom!
I will go ahead and try to find a pre paid phone card to tomorrow. I'll sleep on whether to just send the card or send a copy of it. Since there's no mail Sunday I've got some time. I figured they don't get their phones back til their last phase, but I definitely want a phone call if he's given the opportunity. I think it would feel pretty miserable on his end to not be able to call if he didn't have one (and was unable to get one via by the phone or from another candidate). Thanks for your experience and expertise! It's different being back on the learning side again. I considered myself pretty knowledgeable after boot camp, but I feel like I'm having to learn this all over again!
Aug 1, 2015
TxNavyWife
GalleyMom, thank you SO much for that little tidbit! Almost made me cry! (First week with no contact I think is the hardest). I will probably go ahead and just send the phone card. I've been keeping a look out for any photos on the FB page but have yet to see anything. I'm a little jealous of the families from the class before his, as it looks like they even had pictures of the first day just a week in! I understand it's not guaranteed to happen, but it would be nice to see.
Thanks again, would you let me know if your son feeds you anything else about that class?
Aug 1, 2015