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  • BuckeyeMom

    My DS is also preparing for his first deployment. We are so glad that we will be able to head out to spend some time with him and our DIL beforehand. I am so grateful for a welcoming and unselfish DIL,who encouraged our visit.
    I will be rereading this thread but would love any additional advice in making the transition 'easier for him, for her...for us.
    Thoughts on cell phone service, as he is still on my plan. Our service provider said to shut him down from satellite to wifi only. Anyone have experience with that?
  • Gina Mills

    Hi, my son is currently in Pensacola. He is in his Pre-Flight Indoctrination? All I know it is whatever you do before the instructor led courses for the Cessna. He has two exams left. Any advice appreciated. I really don't get much out of my son.
  • proudmom

    My DS is off to Japan sometime in the near future. Can anyone give advice for staying in touch. I know we can email and Skype but what about FaceTime? And phone calls? Any help would be appreciated.Proudmom

  • proudmom

    Just posted but forgot to include my email.

    Please respond to maggie.geis798@gmail.com

  • Marianne

    Proudmom, Japan can be tricky because of the 16 hr. difference and the fact that they are one hour ahead. We pre-arranged times for SKYPE and used Facebook. Email is one of the best because they can pick it up on the ship, where OPSEC and limited bandwith nix phone calls, etc.

    Lots of packages helped me feel connected; those military mailers from the USPS are the best because there is no additional cost for FPO and no weight limit.

  • Marianne

    Oops - Japan is 16 hrs, but also one DAY ahead. Sorry for the confusion.

  • JudyM

    My son has been to Japan twice. Viber works great for messaging. 

  • NFAO

    Just a couple of suggestions on the logistical things.  Our son was deployed on the IKE that returned last December.  With Verizon you can "suspend" and "un-suspend" his phone at will from their web site.  This is a benefit they offer to deployed servicepeople.  This way you are not paying for service when he is on a boat, but it can be "un-suspended" when he is in port.  Depending on the country of the port call the cost can be small or large for cell service -- again that's all spelled out on their web site under "International Roaming."

    Second -- most post offices will tell you to send packages using Priority Mail.  What they won't tell you about (because you have to luck into someone that knows about it) is that that they have a service called "Regional Rate Priority Mail."  If you are within a certain zip code range of the FPO zip code you can use this instead of the full-price Priority Mail.  It has its own boxes, and they don't have them in the Post Office - you have to order them (for free) from the USPS web site.  The cost per package is about 1/2 to 2/3 of the regular Priority Mail, and it goes in the same stream.  It's a little bit of a challenge to find out about it on the USPS web site, but if you stick to it you can save a bunch, especially if you send a lot of packages (and they love getting stuff, even if it's nothing significant).

  • BuckeyeMom

    We use ATT, and it sounds like the plan is very much like Verizon's.  They did not mention anything about unsuspending it until he gets back to the States.

    My brother was stationed in Afganistan YEARS ago and we just used our regular service...at that point an International plan was no big deal but it wasn't even suggested this time. 

    DS said he would be able to FaceTime or Skype occasionally, he will be on a cruiser so will apparently in and out of ports periodically.  I just wondered if everyone suspended their service or if there were other options out there!

  • ulua

    Hello lovely navy moms, especially proud mom. My DS just returning from Japan adventure. FaceTime worked great, he usually had time to talk on the weekends. iPhone for texting. I purchased a clock to set to Japan time to keep in our kitchen. I had to check out the clocks at Walmart carefully because many are atomic clocks that reset to local time, tricky to find a manual-set one. Just kind of a nice thing for me. We also sent a few fun care packages, priority mail, use the large one that gets a little military discount with USPS.
    It's never easy for the moms to have their LO so far away. God bless your family, fair winds and following seas to your DS
  • Barb

    Sending warm Palm Sunday wishes to everyone. Lots of activity with our LO's this weekend. Saying extra prayers for their safety. Our DS is back out on CQ's. He just passed his LSO, so that was cool and his CO was just named CO of the Blue Angels! Hoping the sunshine is bright where you are!
  • CheriH

    Good morning moms...DS leaves today for Anchorage for a 3 week DET.  He is excited about the flying; joint ops with the Air Force.  His sweet wife told me that "3 weeks is nothing!" when compared to deployment.  So glad that they have adjusted to Navy life.  I, of course, am thinking about the Russian planes that are buzzing about up there.  

    On another note, DS and DIL managed to make it for a family funeral on Easter weekend and he showed up in his dress blues.  When I saw them enter the church, I teared up.  What is it about the uniform that makes me cry every time?

  • JudyM

    CheriH, my son did two deployments attached to the air force. It is a slightly different experience, but he enjoyed it. Now DS is off to start TPS (test pilot school) in Pax River in July, moving from Washington to Maryland.

  • tiff794613

    Hi everyone - 

    If anyone has some insight on a timeline of how long an NFO will be in Pensacola, that would be great! (Recent info would be most helpful since things are constantly changing). I know the pipeline, but looking more for time frame now. I am a spouse and my husband is in API currently. I am in grad school, and just trying to have a rough estimate timeline of our time here. Any info would be appreciated. 

    Thank You

    Tiffany

  • Gina Mills

    My son is also currently at API and I would like to know the same. Is your husband Joel?
  • CheriH

    Congrats JudyM on your son heading to TPS.  Very cool.  

    Suzie...very funny about your son and the whites.  I always think about the line from A Few Good Men..."nobody likes the whites!" But they sure do look good.  Especially when they are manning the rails!

    Welcome to Tiffany...and sorry I can't answer your question about NFO timelines.  I'm sure there is someone on here who can.  API is probably the same as the pilots.  If I remember, it was about 3 months, but it took my DS 3 months to class up.  But I think NFO's stay in Pensacola for the entire time of training, don't they?

  • tiff794613

    Hey Gina! Yes Joel and Chandler are good friends! I see him often! They are studying a lot these weeks and don't have much time for fun! 

    Thanks Cheri! Hopefully someone may be able to help! I know a lot of the pilots for my husband's class are going through a lot slower, the demand for NFO'S are high right now, so they are being pushed through quicker. So maybe someone who recently had an NFO go through may be able to help!

    Thanks again! 

  • Marianne

    tiff794613-

    Pensacola will vary depending on the backup of people who are going through Primary. My DS was there for 7 months, but had to sit around between stages because of lack of equipment. As you noted, they are getting priority now! He then had another 8 or 9 months (can't remember exactly) in Norfolk because of NFO training on the Hawkeye. Hawkeye tends to be longer because of all the communications and electronics.

    The NFO community is a lot smaller - there were only 6 in his winging class! We have a separate Group here and you would be most welcome.

    After that he got his pick and chose Japan for 3 yrs. He's now a strategy designer and instructor at what most people would call the Top Gun school. DS got moved up a year on the promotions list, so we won't find about what happens and where he'll be going next until Spring 2018.

    You'll find that the best you can do is for your LO is just to be there for support; I've learned that the Navy is not on any predictable timeline!

  • Barb

    Good Sunday morning all! A question...did anyone receive an email yesterday from USAA about incoming transfer of funds? I think this is Spam so I don't want to ask DS about it, especially while he's on detachment. CheriH, I'm with you, the uniform makes me tear up every time!
  • jsefamily

    Barb, it's spam. I received one in my email. I don't have a USAA account, nor does my DS. He uses Navy Gederal Credit Union. I ignored it. Hope this helps.
  • jsefamily

    That would be Navy Federal*
  • Barb

    JSEfamily, thanks. That's what I thought.

  • helenp

    My DS uses USAA. I sent him your warning about a possible spam email. We haven't received any unusual emails. He commented that  you can transfer funds from person to person with usaa via their app. So his guess is he went out with his buddies and they didn't split the check or something so he paid using usaa funds transfer.

  • jsefamily

    If he receives money in his account, he'll get it either way (if he opens the e-mail or not).  There is no harm by ignoring/deleting it.  If it's spam, the senders don't have a live e-mail address that was opened or compromised information in the link.

  • Kama

    Hi Moms,

    So my DS has received orders. We plan on flying to his base to see him off. Can anybody offer some help with what to expect and what family typically does to show support that day. my email is kamajama@comcast.net if you have some info to contribute. Thank you.

  • CheriH

    Kama, we did not see our DS off. He joined his ship after it left port, so he flew to meet up with them. He is married, so it's not likely we would have gone to see him off. But make sure you get to the homecoming! It is a wonderful experience!
  • CheriH

    DS made it back home from Alaska...had a great trip.  The flying was wonderful and  they got to do and see some fabulous things on their down time.  Here are two pics...one that the Navy took of him in his plane and one that he took from the cockpit of his buddy as they flew by Mt Denali.  

  • BuckeyeMom

    DS is out for first deployment. I'm so glad we got to go see d some time as a family before he left. We got to board the ship see his quarters, see the hanger...The next day we took him to the squadron and later went to the beach to watch them fly out to the ship.
    Time well spent.
  • peachstatemom

    What fabulous photos in Alaska. My DS recently went to Japan, Atsugi and within days deployed (his first) on the Reagan. Several emails to assuage mom, he sounds upbeat and incredibly busy. Buckeye, so glad you got to see your DS off and see what his new temp home looks like.
  • Helomom

    BuckeyeMom - I hope you will be able to see the ship and squadron return. Homecoming is a very special time! Much happier than departure for sure.
  • Barb

    CheriH, great photos!  I've been following, but haven't had a chance to write.  Sounds like lots of exciting things going on...we had our DS home for a weekend and we packed in lots of visiting time and his GF flew in too.  He is busy with all the work ups and will be back and forth to the boat until deployment.  Anxious to hear all the suggestions folks have to share on sending them off and welcoming them back.  Hoping your LOs are all safe, secure, and enjoying happy landings.  Welcome to all the new moms...N4M's is a great resource to get you through the ups and downs of Naval Aviation!

  • helenp

    My DS and his fiancee just drove cross-country from Jacksonville to Whidby Island. He's the new guy in VP1. Anyone else in VP1?

    They have an apt. in Burlington, so hopefully his fiancee can find a nursing job. She is looking for a reasonably priced used car. Anyone in the area have any leads/advice for her - cars or nursing jobs? He job in Jacksonville was her first - in a Cardiac Telemetry Unit.

  • BuckeyeMom

    Wow! Beautiful pictures!

    I have been so glad that I've been able to connect to DS ships Facebook page! They post pictures fairly regularly of what's going on, more so than he is able to anyway, and every once in a while I catch a glimpse of a familiar face!
    I feel so very lucky to have the communication that we have available!
  • gonavymom

    helenp:  fiancee should check out Providence Regional Medical Center in Everett.  There is at least one other F18 wife from NAS Whidbey here.  I train all the new nurse hires here.  A little closer to Burlington is Skagit Valley Hospital in Mt. Vernon and they also have a telemetry unit but it is a much smaller hospital.    I think ours is a 30 bed telemetry unit in a 501 bed hospital.  

    I haven't been on here in a while but still follow everyone's posts and remember you and your LOs in prayer.

    Barb, I wonder if our LOs are working up on the same boat? You can PM me, I'm curious.

  • helenp

    Thank you gonavymom. I will pass this information to my future DIL. She has a car now, so she's ready to start - well maybe as soon as she unpacks all the boxes.

  • Barb

    Sending love to all our Navy family this Monday and hoping that all of you are well too...our hearts go out to the Fitz and proud of our aviators in the incredibly challenging work that they do.  My DS is on an extended training and they are working looooong hours, but he sent a great photo of Saturday's trip to Tahoe.  He looked great, driving a boat with his buddies.  They are amazing people, aren't they?

  • USNmom2017

    I have just found this group!! I have a LO that will be graduating OCS on July 14. The. Headed to Pensacola for NFO. He is getting an apartment because he is getting married in August. is there a certain procedure that has to take place in order to live off base? I apologize if this has been answered somewhere..
  • Robertsmom

    USNmom2017  I do not have an answer to your question but I was excited to see your comment.  My LO is graduating OCS on Aug 4 then supposed to head to P'cola as an NFO also.  He was rushed into OCS and was told they needed NFOs so Im curious how quickly yours has to report after graduation.

  • BuckeyeMom

    There will be no problem living off base, it is not at all unusual. I would even say more normal than not.
    I don't rememberat what point they declare where they are living but there is housing available all around base. My son lived on Blue Angel if that helps!
  • Marianne

    Welcome.My DS is an NFO Hawkeye instructor at the Top Gun school.He lived in two houses while in training at P'Cola. It is the loveliest base in the Navy,so be sure to visit and stay at the Navy Lodge on base.
    There are a number of homes owned by Navy personnel that are also available for rent; Housing has lists (or Used to).

    They are always short on NFO, and I have heard they are getting top priority in the flight training pipeline, so expect short report dates.

    We also have an NFO Moms group if you have specific questions.

    Good luck & God bless.
  • USNmom2017

    Roberts mom, Hebrew has to report within 10 days. He will graduate on July 14 and is headed to Pensacola middle of the following week. We live about 7 hours away so he is coming home first to get his car and some belongings as he has a deposit down on an apartment that Him and his fiancé will move into at that time. From what I read they are in need of NFO. So that is why the quick turnaround. Hope to get to know yiu thru this process , so we can go thru it together. Where do you live?
  • USNmom2017

    BuckeyeMom... I know from what I have read there is no problem with living off base. Just was unsure if there was a certain procedure they had to follow.they already have a deposit on an apartment,scheduled to move in on July 18. Of course they will need help moving and we hated to come that way to help if it was going to be a few days after they get there that they will be able to move in. Due to the inprocessing. I am an AF brat but of course I don't recall all of those things.. so any information is welcome.
  • USNmom2017

    Marianne...thank you for your information. I know they will love Pensacola. I hear Great
    things about the base. You mentioned staying at the Navy Lodge. Can we do that as civilians?

    And housing...they already have a deposit on an apartment, I was just under the impression that he would have to have permission or some sort of paperwork from Housing to be able to live off base. And how long it take to get all that done. Just trying to do some footwork although he says he has got it under control.

    I have also joined the NFO moms. Hope to get information in that group along the way. Information that he might forget to tell us.

    Thanks again for any information..
    God bless you as well..
  • Marianne

    USNmom2017:
    The Navy Lodge system is designed for visiting family. Your DS will have to sign you in. The one at P'COLA is gorgeous;right on the beach with full kitchen and a breakfast included. 7 yrs ago it was only $70! I've also stayed in the ones at Norfolk and Atsugi,Japan. I highly recommend your son make a reservation ASAP so you don't get closed out by other summer travelers.
  • USNmom2017

    Marianne...Thant is wonderful to know. I will get him on that! Thank you so much for that information.
  • Jen C

    Hi! My son is currently at OCS and has earned the selection for an aviation contract. Any advice from those further down the path? Is there anything in the process to keep him from continuing on his journey to flight school? How soon did your LO report to Pensacola after graduation? How about housing (on or off base)? TIA!

  • CheriH

    Welcome Jen C and Congrats to your son!  It's an exciting path with twists and turns and many very proud moments!  This is a great group and somebody has an answer to all your questions, so fire away.  Also, read back across the years of discussion and specific questions forums and you will receive a plethora of information.

    My son did not do OCS (contracted while he was still in school) but he reported to Pensacola 2 weeks after commissioning/graduation/wedding.  He lived off-base; chose to live close to Milton, as he knew that's where he was going after API.   

  • CheriH

    Jen C: continued: There will likely be fits and starts to his training as there always seem to be delays and surges in the pipeline.  Take a deep breath and know that he will get through it.  My DS commissioned in May '12; did API and then Primary in Milton; selected jets and went to Kingsville, TX, then moved to Lemoore, CA for F18 training and finally got assigned to a squadron in Feb '16.  He deployed immediately and got back home in August '16.

    I have heard that they have made some changes to the process since he went through, so someone else may have more recent information.  

  • JudyM

    Jen, my son completed OCS April 2011, winged out of Kingsville 2013. He lived off base throughout his training. He had connected with several others in OCS and they rented an apartment or house together at each step of the process until they winged.  They usually figure it out by looking online. Places like Pensacola, Corpus and Kingsville usually have housing markets to accommodate them.

    As for you, hang on for the ride! Being supportive and accommodating is sometimes the best we parents can do. This is a small community. They stick together, party together and help each other. Mine has done two deployments and now is at TSP (test pilot school) at Pax River. I am always proud, but especially on a day like today - the 4th of July. 

  • Jen C

    CheriH:

    Thank you for your kind words and helpful information! This is all so new to me. I'm happy and excited for my son, as I know he'll be fulfilling his dream of flying. 

    You must be so proud of your DS! (Okay, dumb question, but what does DS stand for? See, I told you that I am new to all this, lol).