AECF - FCs and ETs

For families that have a loved one serving the Navy as an FC or an ET. This is the place to share and learn more about their jobs and schools.

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  • Tiff(Ship 11 Div 057)

    Hey I have a question my husband is in boot camp right now pir is Jan 11 and he is going to be either an ET or FC. I think he finds our this coming up week. My question is how long are either of them schools for A school and C school. He is staying in great lakes for A school so will C school also be in gl as well?
  • Janie134

    Grandson who PIR Oct 5 is finishing his ATT school in GL next Thurs. He is in training for FC. Had indoc class and ATT class prior to beginning his A school in Gl for FC. That class FC A school is to be about 6 months. The FC C schools are not in GL. One is in SAn Diego ( Tomahawk missiles only) and two are in coastal VA, Dahlgren and Dam Neck. google them. His weapon (missile) choice determines his C school location. GL schools have stand down/no classes from 21 til 6th.
    After his boot, your guy will have the indoc and ATT classes before he begins his A school in GL. Plan on a wonderful weekend for your PIR. He can stay with you during the day, but must go back to base at nite. DO attend Sarge's pre-PIR the nite before PIR to get lots of good info you get no where else.
  • MsMarianneM

    Hi, I have a question about BAH. Our October to November BAH with dependent was based on Hawaii's zip code (where I reside), and for some reason this month it changed to Great Lakes zip code.  My husband is an E3 currently living in BEQ Great Lakes for A school as an FC.  I am still living in Hawaii. What location should our BAH be based?

  • Anti M

    I answered in the discussion in the GF group... you may be a victim of regulations (no dependents for E-3 overseas) and the geo-bachelor crackdown.  He must ask PSD, I think you're falling under special circumstances as the zip code used for sailors in training is almost always where the dependent resides.  ALMOST always.

  • MommaJeri

    Hello all! I am a Mom who's sailor PIR'd 12-21-2012. My sailor will be flying back to GL on Jan 3rd. He is AECF - FC. Looking forward to chatting with everyone... :)

  • Vickyrun

    Welcome MommaJeri

  • Sandy's_sailor son

    Welcome Jeri:)

  • Tiff(Ship 11 Div 057)

    Question do our Sailors get liberty on the weekend while in A school at Great Lakes? Reason im asking is i may not be able to make it to graduation next weekend for personal/medical reasons. My husband already knew this but we weren't a 100% sure. If i can't make it up there i would like to come down the following weekend. I was wanting to know if he will be able to hang out with us during the day during the weekend. 

  • Vickyrun

    It has been a while since my sailor was at GL but I think they have to class up before they get weekend liberty. So maybe a couple of weeks after PIR. I would wait until your son moves over to the A school side to make any plans.

  • Tiff(Ship 11 Div 057)

    Okay my husband is the sailor lol. But do you know when they class up?
  • Tiff(Ship 11 Div 057)

    Okay thank you i will try and figure it out, i hope i can just see my husband next friday but i dont know yet!! So thats why i was hoping if i couldnt go to PIR then i could go the following weekend and he could see us!

  • duhhuh58 Ship 10/Div 267

    goldng8r

    tell your hubby to put in his paperwork IMMEDIATELY or live a shore and to get yu approved as his liberty buddy.  unless he is on duty you should be able to sign him out.  you should be able to "keep him" from 8 am - 9 pm.  do you have your id and vehicle stickers yet?  if not, do it.  that way you can actually drive on the base and saves you A LOT of walking.  also, keep in mind that he will have A LOT of rules while on liberty.  follow them, they do have eyes.

    enjoy!

  • Concernedad

    OK, now what?? He's done with C School, his ship is out to sea. What is he going to be doing for the next couple months? Can he squeeze in another C school?

  • duhhuh58 Ship 10/Div 267

    depending on how long the ship is out they will more than likely fly him out to it once they reach a port.  otherwise he'll have duty, etc.

  • Anti M

    He can only get another C school is his ship authorizes it, it would come out of their budget.  Either they'll fly him out to the ship (does he have a passport?)  or he'll be attached to the temporary holding unit.

  • Concernedad

    They're putting him in the temporary holding unit (that sucks). Just wondering what he'll be doing there? Yes, we gave him his passport.

    His ship is still out for a couple months or so.

  • Anti M

    Hold units all do about the same thing: clean, office work, manning a phone, "landscaping" i.e. shoveling snow or raking leaves, just about anything a base might need a warm body to do.  if he's lucky, he'll get assigned to a shop which which has something to do with his rate.  

    It does suck, but if he gets down, remind him he's being paid, with a side serving of benefits.  

    Hurry up and wait, huh?

  • Anti M

    The passport could expedite transferring out to the ship.  I know it helped my nephew go to his sub weeks before the guys who were waiting for theirs to be issued.

  • Concernedad

    Well, I just found out he forgot to take his passport. So I don't know if I should send it to him now or wait to see if he needs it? He figured his military ID would suffice?

    He was held at (is it TPU?) earlier while waiting for C school and said he hated it, but I was surprised to learn that even the E-5's and E-6's are also standing watch and doing odd jobs while waiting. I would think rank would have it's privileges.

     

  • Concernedad

    He was telling me about one of his roommates passing through was a Marine. He said the Marine would hit the rack around 2 AM and within a half hour was being called back to duty. Said he did this every night for a month. Was convinced he was a cyborg.

  • Anti M

    Sometimes the military is sufficient for travel, but if the ship is in a foreign port, a passport makes it easier for the Navy to book civilian travel rather than just using military flights which don't go everywhere.

    TPU, THU, there are several acronyms.  Rank usually has privileges, but everyone on hold gets to share in the suckiness.

    Marines. heh.  Yeah.

  • Anti M

    I'm unfamiliar with the pilot schools, but I would assume the ship would direct when he goes back.  Sorry, I just don't know for sure.

  • tiffanyk2010

    Ok I have a really dumb question.  My husband has orders to the USS Wayne E Meyer in San Diego.  But my understanding is there are technically several bases in San Diego and I can't figure out which one he will be at.  I have his orders but all they say is San Diego.  Is it the 32nd Street base??  I am starting to look for housing and want to make sure I find something as close to his "work" as possible.  Especially considering we share a car.  TIA!

  • Anti M

    Probably 32nd St. However, that is NOT a base which you want to live "close" to.  Not such a great area.  He will be commuting.  Besides, if he is deployed, he won't be needing daily rides.  Look into housing, it isn't "on" base, and it is fairly decent and easy to get into lately.  

    Also, SD has good basic public transportation.

  • Anti M

    I found their FB page, sure looks like 32nd to me!

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/USS-WAYNE-E-MEYER-DDG-108/191312000420

  • tiffanyk2010

    Thanks Anti M!  That's what I thought.  I know we don't want to be close exactly but I don't want the commute to be too far either.  I've looked into housing but I think we can find something better and save some of our BAH.  We have a cat so that seriously limits our "base" housing options.

  • Anti M

    We rented in Birdland, which is above Mission Valley, between Linda Vista and Serra Mesa.  All good choices.  San Diego is a commuting town, and everyone knows how much BAH is.   It can be tough, but it isn't impossible.  We had three cats, so I know there are cat friendly rentals.  Avoid anything near the airport.  Some people like Chula Vista, but I'd skip National City.  

  • Mary, Proud Mom of Nick

    BR549, our sailor left with yours. He just moved to San Diego and is on the Lawrence DDG 110. Did you see any of the news coverage from Monday?

    Mailed two boxes ...so far!
  • Sandy's_sailor son

    Hi everyone. My son is deployed too. I'm miss him of course but so far I'm ok. He was able to contact me to let me know that he is doing great.

    He is a lot happier now that he has solved his sea sickness. I took him to a health-food store while he was home on leave. We found some 100% pure Peppermint oil that contains no spirits- alcohol.  He just puts some under his nose or on his shirt and voila!! No more sea sickness.

    Anti M, or Mary,  I have a question. My son emailed me from his ship. I emailed him back on my Barnes and Noble nook HD+. He received that email. I emailed him the next day from my computer and I got a failure notice. He didn't get my email. I have tried from my Iphone, same result. What is going on???

    BR549, Godng8r, I am praying with you. This is my son's first deployment. Don't know what to expect.

  • Anti M

    There's several reasons the email will fail.  The servers might be down, the ship may be in River City, or the incoming filters might be full.  Those emails are all screened, and if the screeners get behind, there can be only a limited number of emails on hold.  Or your email was too large, plus some of the ships can't allow HTML formatting or attachments.  I know sending to my nephew's sub, I have to go plain text or it bounces back.

  • Mary, Proud Mom of Nick

    First deployments are hard but they never get easy!

    Sandy, great suggestion on the peppermint oil, we have ginger works nicely too. I get ginger chews at Krogers "health food" aisle.

    As anti M says numerous reasons why an email might fail. In the past, our ombudsman has been good about notifying us if the email is going to be down so if it continues for a few days you might want to reach out to her. This is a new ship for us so I don't know what to expect.

    Nick reported to the ship just in time for holiday standdown and then took 10 days house hunting leaving so his email was not set us when they left Monday and I am like a crazy mom watching for that first email.

    If it is your first deployment --- they are so busy when they first get underway and are working some very long days, try not to worry --- they are thinking of you too.
  • duhhuh58 Ship 10/Div 267

    with the screenings of the emails you have to be careful how you word some things.  a friend of mine was trying to email her about a cat dying and until she reworded it it wouldn't go thru.  strange but i understand not wanting them to learn about a death via email.

    while on deployment they are working 7 days a week, 12 hours a day.  when my daughter was out she said mostly they sleep on their 12 off.

  • geokat5

    This is my first time commenting.I appreciate all the good ideas. My son left last Friday, patiently waiting to here something It helps to know I'm not the only one even though that feeling is very strong

  • Mary, Proud Mom of Nick

    Hi geokat5. Is this your first deployment? I know some that ave left on Monday have been communicating already. Not ours --- so I am waiting impatiently for our first communication!!

    Hang in there and let us know what questions you might have.
  • MyKidIsInNavy

    Hi everyone...looking for some input please?!  If I understand correctly, all the SR's in the AECF find out at some point in bootcamp whether they will end up an ET or FC correct?  Next question, how long into BC did you find out which of the jobs they had?  Thank you in advance

  • Mary, Proud Mom of Nick

    They do find out in bootcamp if they will be ETs or FCs. Used to happen in the third week of BC. Don't know if that is still the case or not.

    As far as what job they will do - that is determined in A school and generally closer to the end of A school as they have to what orders come in.

    Is your recruit getting anxious to find out what the future holds?
  • MyKidIsInNavy

    aww thanks Mary, Proud Mom for your input....I have not had any contact with my SR yet, he is just now starting week 3 of boot...and is in the 900 divisions...so I am asking more for me then him because I have no idea what he knows or doesn't know at this point.  I was just inquiring as to about when they know which direction...ET or FC they will be getting....

  • Janie134

    My sailor PIRed Oct 5 last year and did learn in later part of boot that he would be training for FC. He had gone in knowing either ET or FC.

    On PIR day he moved to the school side and into his new barracks.They had an ATT school before Christmas. So that took about 2 months. When he went back to GL after Christmas stand down (time off) he was ready to start A school.  Then there was another short school he had to take before starting A school. I think it is now time he is starting or just started FC A school During this class 31 weeks I understand he will learn (or chose) his missile he will train on. Once trained on a particular kind of missile that is where he stays for his Navy Career.  Depending on the missile of choice is where his C school assignment will be.  There are 3 C schools for FCs. One in San Diego and 2 in coastal Virginia, one of the Potomac Rv and on near Norfolk. Dahlgren or Dam Neck.

  • MommaJeri

    My sailor PIRed 12-21-2012. It was around Week 5 that he got his orders (FC). He is at GL now, waiting to class up & has no idea when that may be.

  • Michelle

    Hello Ladies, I wanted to ask if anyone knows the requirements for live ashore? I know that he has to fill out the pack and put in the chit but I want to know what are the requirements in order for him to actually be approved? (FYI we been married for almost a year, with a daughter and a baby on the way, and his school is going to be longer then 6 months, also he is E2 if any of that helps)

  • MommaJeri

    RebeccaProudWife: thanks, but I meant waiting to start classes for his rate. :)

    GoldnG8r: yes, that is what I meant, thanks. :)

  • Mary, Proud Mom of Nick

    FC learn what system they will be working on at the end of A school. C school trains them on that system. CIWS, Aegis, Tomahawk, sea Sparrow and guns are all different systems and different C schools, when they receive orders for C school - their system is determined. Dream sheets are nice but it all comes down to what orders are available when it s time for them to move on.
  • Mary, Proud Mom of Nick

    Michelle, hoping one of the more recent wives can help you out. We have had alot of conversation about this over the years.

    If you click on "view all" in the discussion forums above - there are some good threads about living in GL and what your sailor needs to do to get approved.
  • duhhuh58 Ship 10/Div 267

    Michelle,
    It took my daughter about a month to get approved for live ashore. Besides the packet she also had to do a driving class. But, when she graduated BC she already had an apartment that her husband moved into 2 days before graduation so that helped.
  • Michelle

    Thanks ladies! So we found out that in order for him to live ashore one of us needs to have a driver's license (which neither one of us has yet) but does anyone know if we need a driver's license in order for me and my daughter to get a house on base, without my husband living with us?

  • Mary, Proud Mom of Nick

    Generally there is a waiting list to get base housing, any recent families at GL that can help Michelle with tat question?
  • Tiff(Ship 11 Div 057)

    I have called for base housing and my husband is going up there tomorrow or Tuesday to get our house. They dont have a waiting list right now they have several houses available. So once he does his packet and the stuff he needs to do then he goes to housing and gets the house that day or the next. Since they have houses right now then it shouldn't take but a day to get one.

  • Mary, Proud Mom of Nick

    Good info Tiff so many bases have long waiting list.
  • Sandy's_sailor son

    Does anyone know about the Navy's changes in deployment? How are they out at sea? My son's ship received orders before the changes.
  • Sandy's_sailor son

    Thank you ladies for the info!! By the way. I figured out that I was putting .mill at the end of the email instead of .mil