Navy Moms of Discharged Sailors

If you are the mom of a sailor who has been discharged, or is in the process of being discharged
  • wendy c

    I need help understanding medical discharge. My son found out in boot camp that he has a condition that can be corrected by surgery but if he decides to have the surgery he'll be discharged. He decided not to have the surgery but is in pain. He is on a ship in Calf and the Doc has put him on restricted duty and they haven't said anything about medical discharge but the Doc did say if the pain got worse he should have the surgery. My son doesn't want to be discharged so he won't ask anymore about the surgery. My question is why they would discharge him if after the surgery he would be ok? The healing time is 2-4 wks of restricted duty just like he has been doing. Thanks for any help on this.
  • wendy c

    Hi Rose, He's been in since April 08,he has varicocele, it's vericose veins on the scrotum(boy is he going to love me for boardcasting that)Oh well,it's moms to moms and we're always going to look out for our baby's no matter how old they get.
  • wendy c

    Hi again Rose, forgot to mention this didn't show up till after he had done intense exercise during boot camp.
  • Judy Proud Mom

    I am so glad I found this group. My son was discharged recently with a separation code RE-8 and the reason erroneous entry. It is because of asthma, which he told them he had symptoms of as a child, but no problems in over 15 years. Can he go back in? This is all he wants. What steps need to be taken? I just don't trust the recruiters to give him all the correct info.   Thanks, Judy
  • danzrgr8

    I am completely at a loss right now.  My son went to bootcamp on March 8th.  A week later I got a message that he had hurt his back and he had been moved to Ship 04.  Today I get a phone call from him that he is going to get a dishonorable discharge because he did not disclose a car accident about 2 years ago.  He was not injured and did not get medical treatment but apparently the Navy has gotten his medical records and in one obsure doctors note depression was mentioned.  He was not treated for this nor did he have any follow up care other than a consult to see a psych doctor and after one session was released.  My son had told the recruiter all of this and he told him to stay quiet and not to admit to any of this.  Now my son's future is ruined and he will have a dishonorable discharge that will follow him forever.  What do I do.  He is such a great kid and was really looking forward to a career in the Navy.  I am a mess and I can't talk to anyone.  HELP  Has anyone dealt with this and what happened?
  • Judy Proud Mom

    I don't have any experience with this, but he needs to talk to legal. Find out if he can fight the dishonorable discharge. That will screw him. He may need to contact his state congressman to help fight. But the bottom line is he should have disclosed the info no matter what the recruiter said. Personally I would also see what your options are in filing charges against the recruiter who told him to lie. I know lots of people who have been screwed by recruiters, and that won't stop unless the recruiters are hit hard.
  • danzrgr8

    Thanks for the information.  We told him not to leave information out but unfortunately these recruiters befriend them and make them feel like they are the to help them when in reality they are only there to collect a paycheck.  My son's crime is trusting that the recruiter had his best interest at heart.  We have many family  and friends who have sons in the military and they have all told my son that the recruiters lie but my son would not listen.  He is to trusting and was willing to ignore the advice of family and do what the recruiter told him to do.  Shame on the recruiters that do this.  This time it has destroyed an entire family and devastated everyone.
  • Judy Proud Mom

    Next time he calls, tell him when he talks to legal to get everything they tell him in writing. He also needs to tell them that the reason he wants it is because he was told to lie by his recruiter, and he feels that is the reason he is in trouble now. He needs to give them the name if his recruiter and ask that he be investigated.
    My son was also told to lie by his recruiter, but during P days he stood up and told the truth. That is what kept him from getting a dishonorable discharge. Of course he was then lied to about being able to go back in with asthma, he has to have a test that says he doesn't have it, or he will not be able to reenlist
  • danzrgr8

    Thanks for the advice. I am not sure when I will get to talk to him but I will definitely mention this to him. He is so scared right now. I have a hard time understanding why they are willing to ruin a 20 year old's life over this. I understand that these kids need to be truthful but what about being lied to by their recruiter? I am sure there is no proof and it will be my son's word against the recruiters and who do you think they will believe? I agree he should have told the truth when asked but I am not sure he was asked about car accidents until he hurt his back and that is when he told them. I am not even sure that he did lie to them. I think he just did not volunteer the information. Like I said before, he wasn't hurt and never was treated for the car accident. My son did tell me that he could get a medical discharge if he tells them that he is suicidal. I think that is sad that he would be told to do that. I am sure that that would not look good either but maybe not as bad as a dishonorable.
    I hope your son is doing well now. You should be so proud of him for standing up and doing what was right. I
  • danzrgr8

    I have been hearing story after story of things like this.  Does the military even care what the families are going through?  I really do not know much and all I was told by my son was that they are threatening to dishonorable discharge him for a car accident that he was told not to say anything since he was not hurt.  Our family is completely devastated right now.  I cried all weekend.  I will probably drop out of school in my last class over this because I don't know if I can keep up and cry constantly.  I really want to let that recruiter have a piece of my mind but I do not want him to have a heads up to cover his tracks.  I am sure he has already done so.  I have another son who is wanting to go into the Marines and I am really against it now.  I thought this would be a time of pride in my son and pride in my country.  It is a shame how one recruiter has shaken all my faith in our military.  I am going to fight my other son joining every step of the way.  I can not believe that someones life can be ruined before it even starts because he did not disclose a car accident that no one was hurt in.  He apparently told them about it when they were yelling at him.  We will fight this.  The case is being made against him and there is no one there to protect his rights although he said in one of his letters that they are told constantly that they have given up all rights as US citizens.  I thought the military was honorable.  I am so heart broken that I don't know where to turn.
  • danzrgr8

    Teresa, I am happy that your son has made it home OK.  My son is supposed to come home this next week but of course we will get no information until the last minute.  Our family is a very strong military family but this has definitely left a bad taste in my mouth.  All my nephews that are in now tried to tell my son that he will be lied to constantly.  My son is not getting a dishonorable but a medical but had to act like he was depressed to get it.  That is sad.  I can't wait til this is over but I have another son that wants to go into the Marines.  I should be proud but I feel nothing but panic that he may deal with this too.  I will be fighting this as best I can but it is the military and it would probably bankrupt me and they know that.  I will write my congressman though.  

  • Judy Proud Mom

    Glad your kids are home, or coming home. It was definatly bitter sweet when my son came home. Glad to see him, but sorry for the reason. He is going to try to get back in, but that worries me. Someone asked if the navy cares about the families, the answer is no. I was an army wife, and the military attitude is to make the whole group strong, individuals dont count at all.
  • Reneric007/169

    Need help Son in Boot Camp Left on 2/22  asmo'd for failing a test set back a week passed that test in new div then was relaly working hard and Monday April 4th asmo'd again for Recruit misconduct after him and other recruit kicked each other boot kidding aroung Both were asmo'd for two weeks He was threatened with going to jail if he as much as walk out of line or talks out of turn as it will be his second offense. When he called home Monday night at 9:53 pm to tell me he was not allowed to tell me why and I kept begging he said he had to write me a letter I then called the recruiter the next dau he called up there and the new RDC told him he didn't know that my sonc would call me that day. He called this morning crying and said he can't stop and he can't take no more he wanted to know if he could come home I tried to give him a pep talk and say it will all be alright but he told me I really didn't understand that he has really been trying and he can't due anything right that he is being ridden 24-7  and nothing he's done is right and he would call me I told him to sign a medical wavier to talk to me and give me information but will he be allowed to do that who knows Rules don;t apply to them RDC make the rules up as they go along and The Navy backs them. I am very discouraged and need some help as to what I can do to help my son and what will happen now as his recruiter hasn't returned  my call or messages .
  • danzrgr8

    I am so sorry to hear yet another story. My son is home now and was medically discharged with the option to come back in a year. We went from threats of dishonorable discharge to that. He has had extensive medical work ups for his back and general health. His doctor said he has never seen ear infections as bad in both ears and we are looking at surgery for this. The Navy only gave him Tylenol for his ear aches. He now has continuous drainage from both ears. His back that they said was a degenerative disc problem they said was caused by a car accident, happened to be a rib head out of place and 3 physical therapy appointments and he is back to his running and weight lifting regimen. This makes be very angry that our sons/daughters are getting such shoddy medical care. My nephews that is being shot at daily somewhere in Iraq and my nephew that is getting ready to be deployed again deserve better than this. I expect and demand that our tax dollars be used to make sure they have safe and updated equipment. My nephew has to tie the door to his humvie closed because the latch does not work. This is sad. He can not get out quickly in an emergency. Keep giving your son pep talks and get as many letters to him as possible. He needs to know there are many people supporting him. Write a letter to your congressman when this is all said and done. I did this and just one or two letters won't change anything but if the offices of these elected officials are bombarded with complaints about how these men and women are being treated then it will get the attention that is needed. Good luck and I will keep your son and your family in my prayers.
  • BigDaddyJames-Ship 14 Div 273

    Hi, I know I'm not a Mom, but the Moms had much better communication during boot camp. I hope it's ok if I post, because I am very concerned about my daughter.

    She was discharged on June 2nd, and showed up on our doorstep to "surprise" us.  When I opened the door, I knew something was not right, but she said she was on her way from GL to Dahlgren for "C" school.  She was an FC.

    She was home for 17 days, which seemed odd to me.  But I gave her every benefit of the doubt, even when she boxed up stuff for Dahlgren that that was not in keeping with the amount of storage a sailor would have.

    She kept up the deception that she was in A school until about 3 weeks ago when I asked her how it is going, and how much school she had left.  She said she didn't want to talk about it.  So, I sent a private message to one of the recruiters on Facebook and asked him if he would please find out her status, as things did not add up.  Later that day, she texted me, and asked why I was "in her buisness".  I asked her if she was still in the Navy, and she said NO. 

    She lied to not only her parents, but everyone else in the family for months.  Whoever she was living with in Dahlgren drove her to San Diego last week, but she won't tell us where she is staying, nor how she can support herself. 

    She is doing all this with the knowledge her mother is undergoing chemotherapy for aggressive cancer as we speak.  We simply can't understand without know more, and I am having a hard time understand how she could be seperated without some kind of notice to us from the Navy. If I had not asked her directly, it may have gone on for many more months. 

    Who can I contact at Great Lakes to find out how this happened?  We are worried sick, she could go missing, and we would never know or be able to help.

    Can anyone help us find the truth?


  • Judy Proud Mom

    Call her local recruiter, they might have some news. I am so sorry you are going though this.
  • BigDaddyJames-Ship 14 Div 273

    Thank you, but they not able to tell me anything. 

  • Judy Proud Mom

    I just can't believe you were not notified. When my son was separated, he was told to call us. I wonder who she called, because they make sure one is made. Have you been to the Facebook page for RTC? You could probably message someone there and get some answers. I can't even imagine what you are going through.
  • BigDaddyJames-Ship 14 Div 273

    Wow.  So they do have to call someone, and she didn't call us???  As I said the recruiters won't tell me anythying, but I want to know why they don't make sure the family knows.  That is just not right at all.  But neither is what my daughter did. @snmouse, as painful as that was, it would be no excuse to hide it from your parents.  I'm sorry about your situation, but you did go home and tell the truth.  You did the right thing.  Thank you.

  • abbyblue

    http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/boards/ERB/Documents/Rev%201%...   there many links for administrative discharged sailors

  • Mossgirl4

    My son graduated A school in April. He signed up for active duty but was told halfway through A school his job had not come open so they transitioned him into reserves. He comes home and reports to the reserve office where we live and they have no record of him! For three months he shows up for drill weekends and they don't know who he is! He would give his name and they would pencil him in only to not be on the roster again the following month. Finally got that straight, but still my son is left hanging. He hates the drill weekends. He was never assigned to a unit, no one ever showed him what he was supposed to be doing. One month he reports only to be told "what are you doing here - you've been reassigned" to another office an hour and a half away. He never knew about this and had already missed the other office's drill weekend for the month. When the next drill weekend rolls around and he drives to the new assignment, he learns he has more than 9 missed drills and is being discharged!!! He did miss one drill weekend that he made up and he missed another one in August that was excused, but they are not showing him his attendance record so he has no idea if the drills that are being held against him are from early on or from when he was reassigned or what. He has already been back to the local nosc where they yelled at him and made him sign something that he said were discharge papers, but he doesn't know the details and they did not give him a copy. I'm sorry for the long post and it is so convoluted! This is a nightmare!

  • gypsy

    My sailor said he's  back and his knee...and he is going to medical..I think he wan to get out,totally...can anyone tell me what and how this USUALLY proceeds?  It is not good news, but what can we expect if he trys to get a discharge?  how long and what do they normally do?  thank you for any advise.

  • momof5~(1CorpMen1Undesignated)

    My son ( I have 2 in the Navy, one is just finishing Aschool in San Antonio and will be home at the end of March, a reservist Corpsmen, other is active in Pensacola but now is leaving the Navy) both PIR in Dec. My son who is leaving, or being separated as he likes to call it...well he is vague about what is going to happen, how long etc..

    He started have major axiety, depression, panic attacks after he got to Aschool right after Christmas. He was never moved from phase 1 liberty and I KNOW that was ahuge contributing factor, also the fact that he was told he would be able to start school for MANY months (est. about 5-8) So he decided to be released from a special ops contract and go undesignated and then things went downhill from there..

    So now he says it will be about 2months till he comes home. He thinks he will have an administrative discharge.

    What, if any information can you share with me.. I am really at a loss ... bit disappointed...his brother took the news very hard..but said after talking to him he understands better and thinks it is what is best for him.

    He has never had problems with anxiety, depression or panic attacks before this.

    Thanks for letting me share my story...

    Dawn in MI

  • momof5~(1CorpMen1Undesignated)

    I realize this is a slooowww moving wall but I am really depressed and disapointed that my son was encouraged to take an honorable adminstrative discharge in stead of helping him with any axiety or issues he had! I feel like he was failed!

    His contract ws a joke, he continued to be lied to, but that was found out and someone god in big trouble for leaving at phase 1 liberty for over 2months! and that is what lead to all these issues!!!

    I can't believe it is over for him... he said he will be home at the end of April, he went in boot camp around the 3week of October....his other brother is a reservist and will be home next week and took the news so hard...gosh I am just feeling so many things....just needed to vent

    dawn in MI

  • momof5~(1CorpMen1Undesignated)

    He has been in less than 180days. Yes, he said it is a lot of paperwork!

    He is coming home and going right back to his previouse job I dont know if you heard of Ceder Point but he worked as a bar tender at the TGIFridays there, and is going back and then starting back school in the fall to finish his blachlors degree so he does have a plan, which I am proud of!

    I do plan on getting him in to see a proffessional, cause this is NOT at all like him! He has been away from home many times...I was totally caught off guard by this.. but I do believe being stuck in phase 1 liberty for over 2months is what sent him over the edge unfortunately! That was NOT suppose to happen and like I think I said, there were many superiors who had to answer for that!!! As they should!!!

    thank you for your kind words of support and advice.. I will keep updating as more news comes in....thanks again...

    HUGS

    dawn in MI

  • oregonmom

    My son is being medically discharged because he hurt his hamstring. He is in fourth week of boot camp. He is very distraught over this!! as I am too. He really wants to go back and was told after a year he can reenlist. I have been looking on the internet and getting all kinds of different answers. How can I get a good solid answer as to if he can reenlist. He called me yesterday with the news but not sure when he can call again. Do you know when the kids in Ship 05 get to call. I am really wanting some information but can 't seem to find what I want. Thank you

  • Reilly's Mom

    My son was given a medical discharge after one week of boot camp. And it was for something stupid. He went into the doctor to get arch supports and the doc saw him shaking his leg. Well the doc asked him why he was nervous and he said he wasn't. So the doc asked why he was shaking his leg and he said that it was something he had always done. So right there and then the doc gave him a medical discharge for Restless Leg Syndrome, with no testing or anything.

    Now he has been in SEPS for almost 2 weeks and he is being treated worse than prisoners. The other day a discharged recruit stole a petty officers cover and put something in it, before it was discovered the recruit was shipped home. So when the petty officer discovered it he demanded for the perpetrator to come forward and confess, well since he is already gone the petty officer punished the whole ship. They now have to sit of the floor for 3 hours per day for the rest of the week, their galley time got reduced, and their phone privileges were taken away.


    He was supposed to get his ship date yesterday but since all this happened yesterday he still doesn't even have his ship date. So we are just hoping this stupid petty officer doesn't delay all of their ship dates just to keep their punishment for something they didn't do.

    Right now my husband and I are furious and completely disillusioned to the military and will discourage anyone from joining.

  • Reilly's Mom

    We found out more on that punishment. It was a different petty officer that punished them, he took all their furniture and made them sit on the floor for 3 hours at a time and stare at their toes, among the other stuff. When that petty officer went off duty the petty officer who's cover was actually stole came on duty. He knew it was done by a recruit who had already shipped out, and said it was pointless to punish those who hadn't done it so he ended the punishment. And that other petty officer doesn't come back on duty until after my son is home, which is tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Proud Mama

    my daughter was dischared from Boot Camp back in August and was told she could re-inlist after her medical condition was resolved -this has occurred - the problem seems to be that her paperwork does not specificly note her medical condition -only something like 'erroreous enlistment' - she was directed to contact, i forget now just who, to have that done BUT has never been able to get an answer at the number provided -and there is no opportunity to leave a voice mail to leave info or request a call back -- Initially she was told that when her medical treatment was complete she would simply need to take a letter to MEPS from her Doctor confirming treatment and cure....as noted above, she can not do that before having her specific med condition noted on her discharge papers ---hoping that someone out there can give some guidance on getting this done - she's been calling the number given for a couple of months and is anxious to reinlist.  Any advice/direction appreciated 

  • NavyWifeForLife

    guess i belong to this group now, my husband is being medically discharged from boot camp. how does this whole thing work? the doctors diagnosed him with depression which is totally out of character for him

  • Modopup

    My daughter left for bootcamp on the 5th.  Heard from her today that because she was treated for depression in middle school they are discharging her.  this simply does not seem right or fair.  Anyone have any insight?  why should something that happened so long ago and has not re-occured be cause for her discharge?

  • AE

    My fiancé is being medically discharged from bootcamp with an injured shoulder and depression he went to legal Friday now what?? And he usually calls every other day do they get to call home on the weekends?
  • Patti

    I might soon be part of this group my son called today and said he saw the doctor last week and they thought he had sleep deprivation , he has been having a tough time since he got to boot camp 3 weeks ago the phone call has been rough and the letter too, he sees the doctor Monday to reevaluate and see, he said when he called today they offered to send him home Thursday but he wanted to talks to us and his fiancé first.
    They are concerned he is having some mental issues, depression ect? I think it is homesickness and exhaustion he also hasn't gotten any mail we sent because they moved him to a new ship and we didn't know . I am concerned for him and how he will be if they send him home.
  • Patti

    We got the call that he is being separated from the navy due to anxiety and a sleep disorder. He is on ship 5 waiting to go.
  • Steph Proud AG Mom

    Hi, I am new to this group- my daughter is being medically discharged from bootcamp.. I am waiting to hear when she goes to Legal.. She passed all of Bootcamp but her final pfa- she then went to fit, and did something to her leg- got sent to rcu- first they said it was stress fractures- then shin splints- then unfit and lazy- she is being discharged for ptsd- which she displayed while being in the RCU... this whole situation, really is upsetting... she intends to try to re enlist at a later time...

  • mamastuff

    My Son did his five years in the Navy and he had plans on reinlisting but his first 7 month cruise his wife cheated on him, they had been together 7 years two married, he called me, and he would be in tears, it hurt our whole Family and I had to ask God to take the anger away from me for her so I could help my Son, now he is home and leaving tomorrow for the Base in Mayport Naval Station for a week of detachment classes but now he is looking forward to his new future and College, I am glad you Moms are here to help each other

  • mamastuff

    My Son went to the Unemployment Office and he is so happy he can get unemployment till he finds a job, as I told him go ask all they can say is no but they said yes just a little info

  • angelarm39

    My son will be in the Navy for 2 years,this August 25,2013.He was in the Naval Nuclear Program.He made it through "A" and Power School and started Prototype this past March.He has been diagnosed with pilonidal cysts and will have to have surgery soon.He was put on med hold on July 24th.He was diagnosed with depression with more of a dopamine deficiency.As much as they want him to stay in,because academically,he was outstanding,and hasn't had any conduct issues at all,they also told him,that they don't want any Sailor to feel like they are trapped in the Navy.The physician put him on an antidepressant yesterday.He said he was in DTP processing right now.They are giving him 30 days to vacate his apartment and relocate to NETC(NWS),so they can watch him on base.He is looking at an Administrative Discharge within 3 months,at the earliest.I am hoping sooner.

  • angelarm39

    i am in Charleston now and due to depression they have started the administrative separation that can be finalized as early as 3 weeks,because the sooner i get him to NC,he will start feeling better.

  • momofcct

    i'm a member on the fb site that supports families dealing w/this topic. i retained a civilian mil. atty., as i couldn't trust the mil system alone to give my son a fair shot. glad to see this group also and i hope to go to the prayer portion on this site too.

  • Camsproudmom

    Wondering the chances of reenlisting with an E8? The chances of getting back in?
  • Camsproudmom

    christy you can find a great group on Facebook called ship 5 everyone in the group as or has had a loved one in seps. You can bet info & support in this group.