"A" (Apprentice) School-UT & CE's go to Sheppard AFB in Wichita Falls, TX. It's a small town with very little to do. Most of them stay on base in their dorms and study. When my husband wasn't studying, he was sleeping. He came home to me on the weekends, because I moved to Texas with him. His graduation was about 10 minutes long and they take lots of pictures for you. We then came to MS, where SOME not all will report for ECS. There were several people my hubby went to A school with that were sent directly overseas to their new duty station....one to Italy, another to Japan, etc. When they leave A school, depending on report day, they can take leave. They usually give them about 10 days with no problems.
ECS- is about a month to two months of training. It depends on hold times and how well the class is doing. It won't just be those fresh out of A school either. My husband had officers and many tenured sailors in his class. They have long days of learning-medical training, gun training, etc. They will stay in the barracks during this time and have very little rules to follow. As long as they show up the next day for class, they don't really care what they do. Since my husband was stationed in Gulfport after ECS, we already had a home. So he lived with me during ECS. Directly after ECS he reported to his battalion (and actually deployed to Japan 2 weeks later). Usually they know all this before they even leave A school. My husband graduated in February from A school, but we knew in December where he was going to be stationed. It depends on how quickly they can process the orders during a certain time.
Once in the battalion, they will begin using all those skills they have learned. My husband has also cross-trained learning many of the other jobs. There were actually days where he didn't even do his job, but someone else's. It's a great learning experience for them. I would suggest to any of you that when your kids bring up SCWs (Seabee Combat Warfare), that you strongly encourage them to get their pins as quickly as possible. When at homeport, they have certain jobs they will be doing but there is A LOT of downtime too. There is no reason they can't focus on getting it finished. It looks better in their "portfolio" and can help when it comes time to advance. They go through a long process of testing and taskings, then have a huge "Murder Board" they go through. They sit in front of a panel and have to answer questions and do many other things. Once they pass this they become Seabee Combat Warfare qualified. They also have to go through FTX to get this. My husband finished all the paperwork last year in July. He just went through his first FTX this month and was awared his SCWs pin yesterday. It's long, boring, and not always fun.....but if they try hard enough and work hard enough and try to enjoy their jobs, the military is one of the best jobs they can have (at least in my opinion). Hope this helps out with some of the newer mom's, wives, girlfriends!
Hi all planning a trip to Gulfport this summer and wonder if anyone has a suggestion for family friendly hotel in New Orleans we will be staying at the navy lodge in Gulfport but also want to visit New Orleans. Thanks . Have not seen my Seabee since March so really looking forward to an awesome trip.
I have lived in Gulfport or over a year now and have yet to go to New Orleans. Wish I could help you, Julieb, but you may do better searching and looking at star ratings to determine a good hotel.
AWESOME Halfofawhole and seabeewife20 great ideas!!! I ban always count on Navy Moms for help and advice!!! Traveling from New York so it will be a great trip> thanks so much
Dona congrats to your Seabee. Enjoy every moment of leave. Mine can't take leave until after he gets back hense the trip to Gulfport. My son also said that he heard Mobile is a fun day trip too.
My husband is having the same problem. We can't take any leave until he gets home from deployment. He had a chit put in and everything, then they put him into "C" school and had to cancel. He explains "C" school like this, " It's "A" School on steroids!" basically they learn their job in a lot more depth than they did in A school. He is the youngest person in his class and possibly one of the youngest to ever go through C school. Most people who go through C school have been in the Navy at least 5 to 6 years. He hits his two year mark next month and is already an E-5. He was advanced with this last cycle and we were so excited. He is doing great things in the Navy and will go far! Sorry about my bragging, but he just makes me so proud. I hope you enjoy your visit on the coast!
Thank you it will be a great and memorable trip! I am proud of your husband too. He must be an amazing guy. Hope he gets home soon! Btw how do homecomings work. Do they get leave soon after they return?
Usually they do get a leave period. They give them a 96 the weekend after they arrive. So this last deployment's homecoming,my hubby came home the week of Thanksgiving. They arrived Tuesday and didn't return to work until the next Monday. Then they were able to take leave for Christmas. It just depends on the higher ups, time of year, and demand for people to be on base. Since they won't be doing much those first few months after returning, they are pretty easy going as long as you have the time to take the leave.
Now, as far as the actual homecoming goes, there won't be a lot of detail until just before they arrive. We may know the month for awhile, but that can change. For example, they weren't supposed to arrive until December last year and half way through deployment it changed to November. There is a care line to call as it gets closer to the return that will give you approximate times and days they will arrive. Again, nothing is ever set in stone. You can also talk to the ombudsman's of the battalion to get information. Personally, i find i know more by talking to my husband about whats going on, but most people discuss things with the ombudsman. About a month before they return, homecoming signs are painted. They start placing them at gate entrances and quarterdecks about a week before they come home. They arrive in groups known as AP (advanced party), Main Body (the bulk of the battalion), and DP (delayed party). Your Seabee will have to tell you what group he's in so you know when they announce on that care line that it's his group. There is also a list for people who don't have base access that you'll want to get on. Your Seabee has to give your name to a specific person or fill out a sheet stating that he wants you and whoever else to be at homecoming, you can check with an ombudsman as it gets closer to make sure you're on the list. He will find out this information while on deployment, so just kind of make him aware of it now. Then if you come down for homecoming, you just show your ID at the gate and you'll be able to get on. We wait at the training hall. They give a time frame for you to be there. They will announce when they land, when they are moving, when they are at the gate, and then you'll see and hear the rest. It's amazing, beautiful, tear-jerking, exciting, and every other emotion you can imagine would exist with such happiness. There is nothing like it in the world. You swell with pride and the moment they step off the bus and find you in the crowd it all becomes worth it. I hate the goodbye's, but those hello's are just something I wouldn't give up for the world.
Denise...I'm hoping you will hang around here to help guide us "newbie" Seabee moms. I feel bad for your Seabee and the way(s) he was shown the door. Glad to hear that he's good with it. That makes all the difference in the world. :-)
I'm glad that it's working out for him. I just think that what they are doing to the Seabee Unit's in general stinks. But what do I know? I'm just a mom!! LOL
I know for sure, Seabee's are tough! And most of time don't get the recognized for their positions cause no one even know they exist just like me until my daughter became one last year, the only thing I ever heard about was the people who joined the Navy and became sailors.
My son is also a BU and has completed A school and combat school too. He really enjoyed it and is now with his batallion. Any questions feel free to ask we are here to help.
Kym - my 5 were raised on John Wayne, and my SeaBee took my DVD of the Fighting SeaBees with him to Gulfport several months ago. Reminds me to let him know I want it back! LOL
My daughter sent me that movie for my birthday and I will treasure it forever. Her grandma didn't think we should watch it to much action. I stay with her grandma for health reasons for so that would have to be where I would watch it and I did. Her grandma is in her eighty's she needs some one with her most of the day. It was a great movie.
HI all - My son graduates from Boot camp July 6th and then heads to Gulfport for A School - I have been on N4M's all through his bootcamp, it seemed to help. I hope to get to know others here with much advise.
I need some info please...the last time my son (single seabee) was deployed to Afghan, he lived in the barracks before deployment and did not receive BAH...Now he lives off base and receives BAH and is getting ready to deploy again.....He is receiving conflicting info regarding his BAH and deployment...One commander says he will continue to receive BAH while in Afghan and another commander says no he will not receive BAH...We're trying to figure this out to see if he needs to get out of his lease and store his stuff at our home...Can anyone clarify this please?
Joanie, my best advice would be to tell him to go to PSD. I thought once you were receiving BAH, you continued to receive it. However, being that your son is single and would be technically living in military quarters in Afghan, they may not pay him BAH. I have also known men who were single and lived off base and kept their apartments while they were deployed. Not sure if they were receiving BAH or just paid out-of-pocket. Again, PSD will be his best bet because they are the ones who handle all the pay issues. Tell him it's the building across from his Quarter Deck, if he doesn't already know that. I don't usually say things like this, but tell him to go to the building and not a PS in the battalion. We have had several issues with them giving mixed information and lying about paperwork being submitted. It took us over a year to receive our refund for my move down here, because they didn't submit the paperwork correctly. We went to the actual office on base and got our money within a week after paperwork was submitted. Getting out of his lease (even with a military clause) will need 30 days notice (he's in Arbor Station right?), so he needs to do this ASAP, because September is just around the corner. Hope he gets everything figured out soon.
Denise congrats on a job well done to your Seabee. Please stay with us you are a strong no nonsense inspiration to us all!! Wish your son for me.! My journey is just about underway with first deployment looming...
I haven't been on for awhile. Just got word that my son's home-base will be Gulfport. He'll be heading there in August, after A-School. Anyone have any recommendations of nice hotels/casinos in the area?
Hello SeaBee moms. My son was just home on leave for a short visit and I am so glad to have seen him. I hope you and all of your families are doing well and are safe.
My son arrived at Gulfport July 14th for “A” school. We hope to visit him in about 5 or 6 weeks and would like any good advice on hotels and things to do.
Most of the nice hotels/casinos are in Biloxi. The Beau Rivage is the plushest-we were just there 2 wks. ago. The Hard Rock and The Grand are also there. The IP was nice a year ago, but was undergoing remodeling-should be nice now. The Palace is smoke-free now. I have heard the Oasis in Gulfport is nice, also. We have been there, but did not stay in the hotel. There is also a Hampton Inn in Biloxi. Several chains are out at the interstate I-10-the others I mentioned are on the coast. We usually go down 2-3 times a year. Our son was just stationed there, so we will be back probably more than that now. In fact, we will be down there the last weekend in this month. Looks like several of us have Seabees newly-stationed there now.
Thanks Dona for the info! I've never been down there before and wasn't sure how easy the access was to get from Biloxi to Gulfport. We are not even sure we can make plans right now. He will be going to ECS school then FX and his battlion is supposed to be deployed in Oct. We don't know if he will be too busy with trainings and if he will be able to leave base on weekends. Also trying to prepare myself for the deployment. UGH...
You can also visit www.gulfcoast.org to find events, attractions, restaurants, and more for the area. Phillip's mom-your son should be able to leave base on the weekends. The rules when they are in ECS and battalion life are much more different than A school. They expect them to be adults, show up on time, and be able to function properly. As long as they do that and stay out of trouble, they're pretty much free to do what they want. The only exception would be on days when he has duty. He needs to be available in case they call him in and will possibly have watch. During ECS, they are really busy and their schedules are unpredictable. So I would definitely wait until he's finished with that. Depending on when his FEX is and his battalion, he should get a 96 when he gets home from that. He will also have most weekends off once in the battalion because the duty rotation isn't as frequent as in A school. With him being new, though, they may try to throw him in last minute classes. I definitely think it's possible for you to get good quality time with him before he leaves, though.
Thank you Seabeewife! This has all gone so quickly (PIR was 4/20) and I haven't known what to expect. He isn't sure yet either, or if he is, he isn't telling me. He had a alot of watch duties in the beginning of A-school, then his whole unit got put on phase 1 again after the 4th weekend. I am really nervous about the 1st deployment, but he is a CM, so will not be in harm's way. Thanks for the link and the clarification about the ECS and FEX.
ECS is combat training...they learn how to do things they might need in combat, such as...survival training...some medical training...weapons...tactical maneuvers...etc.
THANKS FOR THE INFO... This is all new to me... My son arrived in Mississippi last Sat. We want to visit him and we are not sure when to schedule a trip down to visit.
Littlelang: Is he in Seabee school or is he a fleet rate to be attached to a Seabee unit? My son is in Seabee Battalion 133 and is a gunner's mate. We live about 2 1/2 hours from Gulfport.
Joanie Tyler's Mom (133 Bees) ~ my son just graduated from Boot camp July 13th and is doing his "A" schooling for BU... That is all I know as of know. This is all so new to me...
Tyler didn't attend "A" school in Gulfport...so I don't know much about how they phase up or when they can have visitors...Hopefully someone else with that knowledge will come on and be able to answer more of your questions.
Other than speaking to Fleet & Family for preparation of deployment, I don't know of any pre-deployment events. It may be different for each battalion, though. They usually do more once they've come back from deployment-BBQ's and such. The FRG (Family Readiness Group) does put together events for the families during the deployment, but again not sure about right before. Your best bet would be to ask an ombudsman of the battalion or join the FRG page and ask them on Facebook.
133 usually has a pre deployment fair where they give out info on mailing addresses, contact info, etc re deployment...I talked with an ombudsman yesterday and they have not set that date yet...
133 Deployment Fair is Friday, 8-17-12 in Long Beach...10:30 AM - 3 PM...A friend (former ombudsman) is picking up some info for me and will mail it. One of the Ombudsmen can also mail this info to anyone interested. Just connect with them on Facebook and let them know what you want.
SeabeeWife20
"A" (Apprentice) School-UT & CE's go to Sheppard AFB in Wichita Falls, TX. It's a small town with very little to do. Most of them stay on base in their dorms and study. When my husband wasn't studying, he was sleeping. He came home to me on the weekends, because I moved to Texas with him. His graduation was about 10 minutes long and they take lots of pictures for you. We then came to MS, where SOME not all will report for ECS. There were several people my hubby went to A school with that were sent directly overseas to their new duty station....one to Italy, another to Japan, etc. When they leave A school, depending on report day, they can take leave. They usually give them about 10 days with no problems.
ECS- is about a month to two months of training. It depends on hold times and how well the class is doing. It won't just be those fresh out of A school either. My husband had officers and many tenured sailors in his class. They have long days of learning-medical training, gun training, etc. They will stay in the barracks during this time and have very little rules to follow. As long as they show up the next day for class, they don't really care what they do. Since my husband was stationed in Gulfport after ECS, we already had a home. So he lived with me during ECS. Directly after ECS he reported to his battalion (and actually deployed to Japan 2 weeks later). Usually they know all this before they even leave A school. My husband graduated in February from A school, but we knew in December where he was going to be stationed. It depends on how quickly they can process the orders during a certain time.
Once in the battalion, they will begin using all those skills they have learned. My husband has also cross-trained learning many of the other jobs. There were actually days where he didn't even do his job, but someone else's. It's a great learning experience for them. I would suggest to any of you that when your kids bring up SCWs (Seabee Combat Warfare), that you strongly encourage them to get their pins as quickly as possible. When at homeport, they have certain jobs they will be doing but there is A LOT of downtime too. There is no reason they can't focus on getting it finished. It looks better in their "portfolio" and can help when it comes time to advance. They go through a long process of testing and taskings, then have a huge "Murder Board" they go through. They sit in front of a panel and have to answer questions and do many other things. Once they pass this they become Seabee Combat Warfare qualified. They also have to go through FTX to get this. My husband finished all the paperwork last year in July. He just went through his first FTX this month and was awared his SCWs pin yesterday. It's long, boring, and not always fun.....but if they try hard enough and work hard enough and try to enjoy their jobs, the military is one of the best jobs they can have (at least in my opinion). Hope this helps out with some of the newer mom's, wives, girlfriends!
Jun 11, 2012
julieb1019
Jun 11, 2012
SeabeeWife20
Jun 12, 2012
julieb1019
AWESOME Halfofawhole and seabeewife20 great ideas!!! I ban always count on Navy Moms for help and advice!!! Traveling from New York so it will be a great trip> thanks so much
Jun 13, 2012
Dona
Julieb-we do the same-stay in Gulfport and do day trips to New Orleans.
Our Seabee came home today on leave-moving from Coronado to Gulfport for deployment in the near future. He just made E5 last week, too!!
Jun 13, 2012
julieb1019
Jun 13, 2012
SeabeeWife20
Jun 14, 2012
julieb1019
Jun 14, 2012
SeabeeWife20
Now, as far as the actual homecoming goes, there won't be a lot of detail until just before they arrive. We may know the month for awhile, but that can change. For example, they weren't supposed to arrive until December last year and half way through deployment it changed to November. There is a care line to call as it gets closer to the return that will give you approximate times and days they will arrive. Again, nothing is ever set in stone. You can also talk to the ombudsman's of the battalion to get information. Personally, i find i know more by talking to my husband about whats going on, but most people discuss things with the ombudsman. About a month before they return, homecoming signs are painted. They start placing them at gate entrances and quarterdecks about a week before they come home. They arrive in groups known as AP (advanced party), Main Body (the bulk of the battalion), and DP (delayed party). Your Seabee will have to tell you what group he's in so you know when they announce on that care line that it's his group. There is also a list for people who don't have base access that you'll want to get on. Your Seabee has to give your name to a specific person or fill out a sheet stating that he wants you and whoever else to be at homecoming, you can check with an ombudsman as it gets closer to make sure you're on the list. He will find out this information while on deployment, so just kind of make him aware of it now. Then if you come down for homecoming, you just show your ID at the gate and you'll be able to get on. We wait at the training hall. They give a time frame for you to be there. They will announce when they land, when they are moving, when they are at the gate, and then you'll see and hear the rest. It's amazing, beautiful, tear-jerking, exciting, and every other emotion you can imagine would exist with such happiness. There is nothing like it in the world. You swell with pride and the moment they step off the bus and find you in the crowd it all becomes worth it. I hate the goodbye's, but those hello's are just something I wouldn't give up for the world.
Jun 14, 2012
ebigirl
Denise...I'm hoping you will hang around here to help guide us "newbie" Seabee moms. I feel bad for your Seabee and the way(s) he was shown the door. Glad to hear that he's good with it. That makes all the difference in the world. :-)
Ebigirl
Jun 16, 2012
mama bear
sorry to hear that your Seabee was shown the door, hope all is going with him now and his family including yourself. Hang in there better days ahead.
Jun 17, 2012
ebigirl
I'm glad that it's working out for him. I just think that what they are doing to the Seabee Unit's in general stinks. But what do I know? I'm just a mom!! LOL
Jun 18, 2012
candy (ship 07/div 163)
Hello all. My son just graduated from bootcamp on June 1st and is training in Gulfport, MS right now to be a SeaBee.
Jun 28, 2012
Momofahousefull
Candy: welcome aboard! My son is a SeaBee in Gulfport. He's a BU (builder).
Jun 28, 2012
candy (ship 07/div 163)
So is mine =)
Jun 28, 2012
SeabeeWife20
Jun 29, 2012
mama bear
I know for sure, Seabee's are tough! And most of time don't get the recognized for their positions cause no one even know they exist just like me until my daughter became one last year, the only thing I ever heard about was the people who joined the Navy and became sailors.
Jul 1, 2012
julieb1019
My son is also a BU and has completed A school and combat school too. He really enjoyed it and is now with his batallion. Any questions feel free to ask we are here to help.
Jul 1, 2012
Momofahousefull
Kym - my 5 were raised on John Wayne, and my SeaBee took my DVD of the Fighting SeaBees with him to Gulfport several months ago. Reminds me to let him know I want it back! LOL
Jul 2, 2012
mama bear
My daughter sent me that movie for my birthday and I will treasure it forever. Her grandma didn't think we should watch it to much action. I stay with her grandma for health reasons for so that would have to be where I would watch it and I did. Her grandma is in her eighty's she needs some one with her most of the day. It was a great movie.
Jul 2, 2012
Dana (Proud Seabee Mom)
HI all - My son graduates from Boot camp July 6th and then heads to Gulfport for A School - I have been on N4M's all through his bootcamp, it seemed to help. I hope to get to know others here with much advise.
Thank you!!
Jul 3, 2012
Joanie Tyler's Mom(133 Bees)
I need some info please...the last time my son (single seabee) was deployed to Afghan, he lived in the barracks before deployment and did not receive BAH...Now he lives off base and receives BAH and is getting ready to deploy again.....He is receiving conflicting info regarding his BAH and deployment...One commander says he will continue to receive BAH while in Afghan and another commander says no he will not receive BAH...We're trying to figure this out to see if he needs to get out of his lease and store his stuff at our home...Can anyone clarify this please?
Jul 3, 2012
SeabeeWife20
Jul 5, 2012
Joanie Tyler's Mom(133 Bees)
Thanks SeabeeWife...I'll relay that info to him...
Jul 5, 2012
Joanie Tyler's Mom(133 Bees)
Jul 9, 2012
julieb1019
Denise congrats on a job well done to your Seabee. Please stay with us you are a strong no nonsense inspiration to us all!! Wish your son for me.! My journey is just about underway with first deployment looming...
Jul 9, 2012
ebigirl
Yes Denise...PLEASE stay with us. You are an inspiration and wealth of information.
Jul 9, 2012
mama bear
Denise we need your throughts and prayers, so please do not leave us. Congratulations to your Seabee son and his service.
Jul 12, 2012
Philip'sMom (Deb)
I haven't been on for awhile. Just got word that my son's home-base will be Gulfport. He'll be heading there in August, after A-School. Anyone have any recommendations of nice hotels/casinos in the area?
Jul 18, 2012
gbeyer
Hello SeaBee moms. My son was just home on leave for a short visit and I am so glad to have seen him. I hope you and all of your families are doing well and are safe.
Jul 18, 2012
littlelang (ship 09 Div 215)
My son arrived at Gulfport July 14th for “A” school. We hope to visit him in about 5 or 6 weeks and would like any good advice on hotels and things to do.
Jul 18, 2012
Dona
Most of the nice hotels/casinos are in Biloxi. The Beau Rivage is the plushest-we were just there 2 wks. ago. The Hard Rock and The Grand are also there. The IP was nice a year ago, but was undergoing remodeling-should be nice now. The Palace is smoke-free now. I have heard the Oasis in Gulfport is nice, also. We have been there, but did not stay in the hotel. There is also a Hampton Inn in Biloxi. Several chains are out at the interstate I-10-the others I mentioned are on the coast. We usually go down 2-3 times a year. Our son was just stationed there, so we will be back probably more than that now. In fact, we will be down there the last weekend in this month. Looks like several of us have Seabees newly-stationed there now.
Jul 18, 2012
Philip'sMom (Deb)
Thanks Dona for the info! I've never been down there before and wasn't sure how easy the access was to get from Biloxi to Gulfport. We are not even sure we can make plans right now. He will be going to ECS school then FX and his battlion is supposed to be deployed in Oct. We don't know if he will be too busy with trainings and if he will be able to leave base on weekends. Also trying to prepare myself for the deployment. UGH...
Jul 18, 2012
Dona
Philip's Mom-I have the same feeling-our first deployment-not sure when it is yet.
Jul 18, 2012
SeabeeWife20
Jul 19, 2012
Philip'sMom (Deb)
Thank you Seabeewife! This has all gone so quickly (PIR was 4/20) and I haven't known what to expect. He isn't sure yet either, or if he is, he isn't telling me. He had a alot of watch duties in the beginning of A-school, then his whole unit got put on phase 1 again after the 4th weekend. I am really nervous about the 1st deployment, but he is a CM, so will not be in harm's way. Thanks for the link and the clarification about the ECS and FEX.
Jul 19, 2012
Philip'sMom (Deb)
Do you know how long ECS lasts?
Jul 19, 2012
Joanie Tyler's Mom(133 Bees)
ECS lasts about a month..
Jul 19, 2012
littlelang (ship 09 Div 215)
What is ECS?
Jul 19, 2012
Joanie Tyler's Mom(133 Bees)
ECS is combat training...they learn how to do things they might need in combat, such as...survival training...some medical training...weapons...tactical maneuvers...etc.
Jul 19, 2012
littlelang (ship 09 Div 215)
THANKS FOR THE INFO... This is all new to me... My son arrived in Mississippi last Sat. We want to visit him and we are not sure when to schedule a trip down to visit.
Jul 19, 2012
Joanie Tyler's Mom(133 Bees)
Littlelang: Is he in Seabee school or is he a fleet rate to be attached to a Seabee unit? My son is in Seabee Battalion 133 and is a gunner's mate. We live about 2 1/2 hours from Gulfport.
Jul 19, 2012
littlelang (ship 09 Div 215)
Joanie Tyler's Mom (133 Bees) ~ my son just graduated from Boot camp July 13th and is doing his "A" schooling for BU... That is all I know as of know. This is all so new to me...
Jul 19, 2012
Joanie Tyler's Mom(133 Bees)
Tyler didn't attend "A" school in Gulfport...so I don't know much about how they phase up or when they can have visitors...Hopefully someone else with that knowledge will come on and be able to answer more of your questions.
Jul 19, 2012
Momofahousefull
Can anyone give me information about events for families before deployment? Recommendations for being in Gulfport? Thanks!
Aug 3, 2012
SeabeeWife20
Aug 4, 2012
Joanie Tyler's Mom(133 Bees)
133 usually has a pre deployment fair where they give out info on mailing addresses, contact info, etc re deployment...I talked with an ombudsman yesterday and they have not set that date yet...
Aug 4, 2012
Momofahousefull
Thanks for the info SeaBeeWife & Joanie Tyler's Mom. I'll keep my ears & eyes opened.
Aug 5, 2012
Joanie Tyler's Mom(133 Bees)
133 Deployment Fair is Friday, 8-17-12 in Long Beach...10:30 AM - 3 PM...A friend (former ombudsman) is picking up some info for me and will mail it. One of the Ombudsmen can also mail this info to anyone interested. Just connect with them on Facebook and let them know what you want.
Aug 13, 2012
Momofahousefull
Joanie: does that include the 133's from Gulfport?
Aug 14, 2012