Ship 5 Moms(Formerly Ship 17)

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  • TJsMom

    Thank you Six-my son is leaving for the same reason so that is good to know.

  • TJsMom

    Great news Terri!

    Ok-we will take it one day at a time, keep praying for Ship 5, and practice patience on this end.

    Thank you!

  • FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW

    That's great Terri (sorry I spelled your name wrong earlier!). Glad you were able to "educate" them :-)

  • TJsMom

    @ Batmom-I called and left a message with legal. TJ said the guys that were in legal the day before he was are leaving on Monday. He is hoping for next week too but realizes it may take a little longer. Thank you for your help!

  • sdcel

    nick'sProudMom - I would just recommend that you try calling legal again on Monday.   They may be backed up due to the holiday week.   When I spoke to someone in legal, he was incredibly nice and helpful.  I will say that everyone I spoke to on Ship 5 (legal, Seps Admin Office,  travel) was nice.   My son arrived home on Christmas Eve.  I will never forgot the shock and grief of finding out he had been sent to Ship 5.   But when we got  him home we were all able to take a deep breath and look to the future.  I have not posted in awhile, but continue to read posts and pray for you all. 

  • abbyblue

    VFW is helpful ask about the post if the have a va service officer sometimes they have someone there or can give you the phone to call. be nice to the guys at the VFW they are veterans and don't work for the gov. a good thank you for their service would be a great start.American legion also is good for getting help for va paperwork.

  • TJsMom

    Hi All! Good news, TJ left a message he will be home on Thursday! Thank you for all of your support during this stressful time.

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    well i got a call from my daughter today 1st one since she left on 12/12/12.She was crying so it was alittle difficult to understand her I should have asked so many questions but i was shocked so i didnt. She stated she might be sent home then said she will be sent home. she has to get assessed for asthma if she has it they will send her home if she doesnt they will still send her home ????? she said she got measured for her dress uniiform but wont get it. i am so confused she said she is still with her division but will come home in a couple of weeks. I am not sure what to take from all of this maybe im in denial. did they move her to ship 5 or will she be moved omg someone help ....no sleeping tonite :(((

     

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    good for you nicks proud mom im just starting out with the whole thing good luck to you and son wish me luck too

  • sdcel

    MC Mama - we know what you're going through.   You will find many answers and lots of support here.   I 'lived' on this site for the two weeks after my son found out he was being separated.   The first few days are the worst.   Recent Ship 5 group members have had the 'asthma' diagnosis.   Perhaps they will respond, or you can read back through the postings to see what they've said.   When you and your daughter start to get some specific information you'll be able to plan your next moves.   Keep us posted...

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    thank you sooooo much for a response i felt very much alone on boot camps for moms there is so much support but here it is like you are all alone and have to figure out everything by yourself it is very stressfull it is like having a child in an international prison with no way to assess the situation i did write her this am and instructed to request to go to legal and fill out the privacy waiver form and hipaa form so if i need to i have more ability to get info. i am in limbo right now so any advice is greatly appreciated so thank you and bless you

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    omg thank you both from the bottom of my heart i have to go to a meeting in a few minutes but i had a few minutes to see if anyone responded and you both did there are actual guardian angels here on earth i will write back after my meetings god bless you both :)

  • TJsMom

    MC Mama-My son is on his way home right now. He has been in S5 for 3 weeks, also diagnosed with asthma. Although he has not had any issues before in his life. Once he is home and I am able to ask some questions I hope to be more helpful to you. This site is great! Everyone is going through similar emotions and are very willing to answer questions. This has been a rollercoaster of emotion and I feel like I still do not have a clear picture of what led to the asthma diagnosis. I wish the best for you and your daughter. Your family is in our thoughts and prayers!

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    well I am back on this site I had hoped to get on earlier, 1st and formost I am so  really greatfull I have other Moms to talk to about my situation This has been such a difficult time. A roller coaster ride of emotions yesterday morning I was planning the trip to GL and 4 hours later I have a crying daughter telling me they will be sending her home. All her letters sounded positive I guess she couldn't do the run she says she had a panic attack half way through and fell over. so she had to go to medical they haven't diagnosed her yet but she says they will have her checked by the specialist in 2 weeks and if she has asthma they will send her home if she doesnt have asthma they will still send  her home. she said she is still with her division. It is all to confusing. If they are going to send her home why would she still be in her division ? wouldn't they put her on ship 5 to begin the process? at this rate she won't come home until sometime in March long after her class graduates?  wow this is so crazy I feel like I am losing my mind. To batmom, thank you for your support and I am so glad your son made it home and if doing well :). To TJsMom I bet you will so glad when your son gets home hopefully it will all fall into place for him. To sdcel thanks for your support and information. also thank you sixftblnd for you support as well you gals are great and so our children ;))))

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    Oh to sixftblnd thank you for the pell grant information that will most likely be used as she will need to go back to school so THANK YOU !!!

  • stephrn66

    I haven't been on here in awhile since the holidays. My son came home the first week in Dec after being diagnosed with migraines when he had the crud after being in bootcamp for a couple of weeks. They all get sick in those barracks and then the digging begins. If they have ever had anything that might be an issue later that they will have to deal with, that's it. The recruiter told us that if the Navy might have to pay for health issues down the road or if they get out in a ship & they get sick, it's better to process them out early. Seems so crazy. My son starts classes next week so life is moving forward. One of his best friends has been in the Navt now for almost 2 years and really gave him hell for not "being man enough" to stay and fight which really threw my son into a tailspin. But I had to remind him he's doing great and still moving forward and that his buddy is totally ingrained into military life now which is a different mindset. We are okay but it's been. Bit rough. It does get better, but encouraging them to move on it key from the beginning. I am a firm believer that everything happens for a reason and that we have to just pick up & move on. Good luck to you all. I cried many tears but had to be the cheerleader when it all became reality.
  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    wow just read  the posts and we all know navy life isn't for everyone I just hope whatever happens, it moves along so she is not in limbo. I'm just worried as you all know little to no contact makes everything much more difficult. I will write her again this morning and just encourage her to push on until some kind of decision is made.  I think they will make it for her  but as we know nothing is speedy with the navy. On a lighter know anyone who wants a Navy flag and bumper stickers??? LOL I have to laugh because that is all I have left . Once again thank you gals for the support :)

  • TxNavyDad

    Greetings Ladies! Yup. the loud mouth opinionated TxNavyDad is back. Sorry for being AWOL, but after our son came home Dec.18th, we were enjoying the holidays with our him and helping to get things back on track. (Not to mention everyone in our house having the flu, sinus and pneumonia) which we are finally starting to recover from)

    @batmom... I'm like you with regard of getting stuff that my kids are involved in... For instance with my daughter, who is a dance instructor at a local dance studio, I have dance club t shirts, show shirts, a Dance Club Dad polo (there's not allot of dance stuff for dads to get).

    In my sons case, I have 3 different Navy ball caps, 1 NWU (Navy Working Uniform) digital blue camo cap, a pair of the official issue Navy PT sweats, the official issue yellow Navy PT T-shirt and blue navy PT shorts, Navy T-shirts, we fly the official United States Navy flag in front of our house next to Old Glory and the list goes on.

    Anyway, I understand how your son feels and wish him, you and the entire family the very best life has to offer. In my sons case, he has been accepted back at work and there are quite a few of the managers and VP's that know what happened to him (the company is run by retired high ranking military officers from different branches, cant say the company name) and welcomed him back with open arms, no loss in grade or seniority. Yes we are blessed are for sure. He is still on the fence about re-enlisting. He has a good code and I think I told you that his separation was due to a paperwork snafu. His college transcripts were the unofficial instead of official with the college seal and presidents signature. That is a big deal as far as my sons job is concerned, because he was going into CTI (Cryptology Technician Interpreter). That requires a top security clearance and after doing research on the issue of unofficial transcripts, ALL his paperwork has to be correct from the start. No faxed or mailed copies of ANYTHING are excepted. Yes the recruiter should have caught that and fixed it in the beginning, but it didn't happen. My son is a much more forgiving person than I, as I was ready to rip the recruiter a new one for this needless mistake and all the crap my son had to go thru. My son is 26, his own man and i have to respect that to a point. I have always told my kids that no matter how old my wife and I are, we are still Mom and Dad and what we say goes (YA RIGHT!!) Sounds good though huh??  ;D

    Ok...I'm starting to write a mini novel again I see. Sorry about that y'all. You know how I get sometimes.

    >>>>Before I forget, y'all remember the big deal we were all so mad about... the name tag being removed from the uniform issue? I finally got the lowdown on that. What happens is this: Ship 5's function is not only there for separation. There are also graduated sailors that stay on Ship 5 waiting for their orders (some not all) to go to their respective "A" schools and when to leave. If they don't leave for a few days, they have to stay somewhere, as the recruit barracks is filling back up with more recruits. The graduated sailors waiting to leave do have a separate compartment from the SR's going home, but they all share the common areas of ship 5 and enter and leave thru the same doors.

    So to distinguish who's who, the SR's going home are told to remove their name tags, making identification of uniformed personnel allot easier.

    @steph... Nice to see ya again lady. Hows your son doin with his migraines? Did he finally get over the crud? My son finally shook of his snotty nose and cough. Nice support call with regard to telling your son about his friend being so critical and that his friend was all military now. I can't help but wonder if your son's friend was a bit bummed out that he didn't make it and was just lashing out, not really TOTALLY meaning what he said or the way he said it.

  • TxNavyDad

    @TJsMom... Awesome news that he is on the way home.

    THE BESTEST PRESENT EVA!!!

    One thing I have learned from talking to some local MD's about asthma is, allot of people never know they have until they are put into a physically strenuous condition and then it pops up. Example: my daughter is now a dance instructor as I mentioned in my previous book (sorry about it being so long)..ANYWAY, when she first started as a dance student, BANG... the asthma showed up. Even when she was in marching band in high school or as a drum major in marching band, the asthma never showed up until dance.

    @MC Mama... so sorry to hear about your daughter. As you have already have had the benefit of the wisdom and experience of some of the others mom's, you have quickly found out that we are all in this together, even though our sons, hubbies, BF's, fiances may have already come home, we are still here to help calm the waters a bit and answer the many questions that arise during your SR's stay on ship 5. We also understand that evil roller coaster of emotion that everyone goes thru. I'll be the first to say that I found out just how MACHO I wasn't when we got the call from our son. MC... one thing you can take to the emotional bank is that we all do care deeply and always have each others families and SR's in prayer. Even when they get home, this crazy train ride is still not over yet. Life now has a Navy influence and always will. To a certain degree, that's not a bad thing as there are some pretty decent strong life values that are instilled in our kids, which actually benefits them and helps the grow.

    Bottom line, as you have seen, we are ALL a family... A Navy family who cares for each other and always will.

    Don't be shy, as there is no judgement here, only compassion, support and reassurance.

    Remember... The storm is the strongest... just before it's over.

  • JeanneT

    Texnavydad. So happy you and your son are doing well. Today should have been my son's graduation day. We are still pretty shell shocked over this mess and he is currently seeking employment. Not an easy thing in California. As time goes by I am seeing the negative impact this has all had on him. At first happiness to be home and then reality sets in and takes hold. Not sure what to do to help him. Everyone elses kids seem to be doing much better. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. So sorry to all the newbies on this site. Hang on. It is quite a ride. Great people here that offer a shoulder to cry on and comforting words and lots of prayers. It helps!
  • JeanneT

    Nicksproud mom. Thanks. You are right about it being heartbreaking. My son is Nick also. Too funny. And Aloha, I messaged you and included my email. The site is funny sometimes. It "errors" the messages. I type out these long ones and they are never received. Ugh. Let me know if ya got it or not.
  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    Wow alot of information on this site as I am a newbee here. My journey is just beginning and my daughter is still with her division so she isn't at ship 5 yet but they told her she will be medically discharged so she has to wait. I guess my next phone call will be when she arrives on ship 5 so the waiting game begins. I do believe things happen for a reason but it is difficult seeing our children go thru hell. Maybe she will come home in a month? just about the time of her PIR date. I never did sell her car or cancel her health insurance or cancel her phone maybe deep down inside I kind of knew she would be back. So I do have that very pretty Navy Blue flag for sale any takers??? lol lol and thanks for the support one thing I know for sure after my daughter comes home I will continue to help others just like you all have helped me. It is such a relief to know I'm not alone and I have others to cry on. I kind of feel like I'm in a bad movie Yikes! so there are great things out there for our children they just don't know it yet. They will be great because they have us for parents....................

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    thank you and  bless you and your family all will be great I have faith in our children. I just wish my child was ok but from her last letter she said her heart is at home makes me think she is homesick. She wrote to her sister and said most of the kids are so rude and disrespectfull, makes me sad she is a free spirit and I hope this experience doesn't change that but time will tell. Well after the week I've had a think a glass of wine maybe two will be in order .. pss I got an offer for that nice Navy flag...$0.25 any takers for $0.30 come on people LOL...sorry it's the wine lol  

  • JeanneT

    Batmom and McMama.....my son said the same thing about alot of the other kids in s5. He called them the Navys rejects. He said it was unbelievable coming from such a military bearing environment for 3 weeks to that. He loved the structure of bootcamp but S5 was nothing like that because of the disrespect. I think on a few occasions some of the kids were trying to get everyone together to overthrow the staff. Can you even imagine. I am just so very proud that my son stayed true to who he is, read a few books and made the best he could of a horrible situation. He sure had some funny stories when he got home. And some sad as well. Take care ladies.
  • JeanneT

    Mcmama.....ps....i cant imagine the girls ship being like the male seps. I am sure she IS homesick. My son was. They can read and watch movies. My son got his mail regularly. I hope she comes home soon.
  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    Thank you all for your company and inspiration. I hope once I find out she is transferred to ship 5 it will go fast for her. Being in limbo and not knowing how she is doing is really hard as you all know. We always worry about our children no matter how old they are. I bet you sons are awesome and good things will come to them. seeing I won't be MC mama to much longer I will just be Kelsey's Mom and thats ok with me.

     

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    I hope a letter comes on Thursday so I can know what is going on. This waiting game is killing meeeeeeeee sorry just needed to say that!!!!

  • TJsMom

    MC Mama-I found the weekends to be the worst for me as well! During the week I was able to keep busy enough to distract myself a lot of the time.

    My son did not have any problems with guys on S5 either. He was very surprised at the immaturity of some of the guys. I have to say that his S5 experience soured him on the Navy a little. It was very boring, the same thing everyday and waiting to leave.

    We are very happy he is home and ready to start working on plan B.

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    yea like i said just the waiting is tough i hope her letter on thursday gives us insight on what the next step is I'm tired of the roller coaster, time to jump off, unfortunitely she is just getting on so the ride continues uggghhh thanks for the response i will keep everyone updated .............................

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    to BatMom I just viewed your page I am also a Nurse how funny is that ??? us Nurses have to have each others back like I said once my daughter comes home I will also continue on this site to help other Mom's get thru a stressfull time just liked you helped me KARMA my dear can be positive :)

  • JeanneT

    Mcmama.....hang in there sweetie. You will feel better once you hear from her and trust us......it is going to be okay.
  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    to JeanneT thanks for the support My husband her Dad is really not happy with her he thinks she gave up I think until we are in her shoes we cannot judge.  I told her in my last letter "keep your head up and be proud of who you are". The thoughts of her weigh heavy on my heart esp today I don't know why ummmm?

  • JeanneT

    Mcmama......ya. I think the same way. No judgement whatsoever. Trying bootcamp is more than I was ever willing to do for my country. Hats off to all these kids for joining in the times we live in now. Whether they leave with injury or get there and decide maybe this isn't what they really want to do. Who am I to judge. I just want my boys to be happy in whatever field they choose in life. Doesnt even have to be a big moneymaker as long as you love what you do. I know how you are feeling though. My heart is still heavy at times. We have good days and bad days. I hope you get a letter soon or a chance to chat on the phone. Keep us informed!
  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    to sixftblnd: I dont think she is at ship 5 yet, she is still with her division, until they get the diagnosis i think she has to stay on ship 14 it must be hard knowing she will not PIR on the scheduled date of 2/8/13 i guess she will be long after the group graduates .....sigh....wow this could take a very very long time. I might need medication.... can i swear on this site??? lol

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    She told me last wednesday that she will have to take a breathing test. I don't know when they will do it? I don't think she has been seperated yet and  i haven't heard any news.  Im hoping Thursday's letter sheds some light on what is happening?? I have cancelled the plans for the PIR so I'm just waiting and waiting and waiting. .  

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    Well I have learned a few things along this journey; This situation can be so stressful it can make you crazy if you let it so.... I have decided to dedicate 1 hour each day to my daughter I will write her a letter say a prayer and check the status on this site (thank for all your input and support by the way) and then carry on with my day I can't worry all day long I can't change or do anything about it so I will be positive and accept what comes along I will take care of myself and put my best foot forward. As I learn any new outcomes I will let you all know as you have been the best support system. love Kelsy's Mom

  • JeanneT

    Mc......... Good girl!!!!!!! Prayers to you every day!
  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    wow! ladies you are my inspiration to keep going If I didn't live so far away we could have lunch and have some good laughs and cries. I really do appreciate all your responses thanks for helping me. ps I spelled her name wrong wow it is Kelsey lol

  • MissElly( ship02DIV913)

    Hi I'm just wondering how long does it take for a SR to find out if he's being SEP after going to REU? Do they evaluated and then re-evaluated? When can he expect to know if he's going to SEP or not?

  • MissElly( ship02DIV913)

    Wow I just prayed very hard last night for any sign of him and today he calls at 10 am telling me he's been seperated since last night but couldn't call me cause it was too late. BIG sigh of relieve, I'm just wondering what happens now...and when he gets to go to Legal. I just really want him home before his PIR cause it would be so depressing.

  • MissElly( ship02DIV913)

    That and also what am I allowed and not allowed to put in his Care Package while at Ship 05? I know he can get books, no playing cards, but what else?

  • MissElly( ship02DIV913)

    Do you know if there's a restriction on the dimensions of the box?

  • glorann1978

    Hi I haven't been on in awhile. I do know that my son actually ordered a board game from amazon and had it delivered to ship 5. The board game he brought home fit into his backpack, not sure if this helps you any.

    Hang in there.
  • MissElly( ship02DIV913)

    glorann do you remember what the name of the board game is?

  • glorann1978

    Seven wonders
  • MissElly( ship02DIV913)

    I wonder if Munchkins would be ok...sorry about the spam =\ I'm hoping to be able to send that with a couple of books,magazines, and chapstick and it won't be taken away.

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    I wish I could help MissElly but I have no idea I am the one with the daughter that is ...??? who knows where she is... so I'm in limbo, so good for you that at least you know there is some kind of end in sight hopefully it will be a speedy and smooth transition back home. You will get alot of great information and support on this site. These women have all gone through what you are going through now, so you are not alone. Hang in there.

  • MC Mama ship 14 div 094

    ps; just a guess but i dont think they will allow any food items being sent??

  • MissElly( ship02DIV913)

    Being in limbo really is the hardest thing, not knowing what's going on and the helpless inability to find out. I have been where you are too, maybe not as long as you have but I've had a taste of it and you are one special lady for being so patient and understanding. I was in limbo for a week and a half, not knowing what was going to happen to him until yesterday when he called. It's such a hard experience but we will pull through this. If you need to rant or ask questions, you can add me.

  • Janet

    Nick'sproudMom, try calling legal and leaving a message that you want to talk to you son when he's there for his appointment. In my experience, they usually do not call back but the message gets through and you get a call.