Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

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**BEGINNING OCTOBER 5, 2023, RECRUIT GRADUATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY THURSDAY (NO LONGER ON FRIDAY), EXCEPT FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, WHEN GRADUATION IS ON WEDNESDAY.

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  • hearthhaven

    Yes, that's kind of a scary thought. I wonder what reason was given.
  • lemonelephant

    I sincerely hope that her Sailor misunderstood the directive.

  • lemonelephant

    Are there any others with Sailors who had PIR last weekend who can tell us your experience as far as your Sailor being able to go to hotels or not? Please include if your Sailor stayed in GL or flew out.

  • Tiff S

    Where was your sailor A school?? We are staying at SpringHill just to be worry free. Never heard this but concerned
  • lemonelephant

    From looking at other comments, it appears that Sailors were restricted from going to the hotels that were near Naval Station Great Lakes. Perhaps there were officers or others that the new Sailors are not to be closely associating with staying there. Interesting! Please comment if you have information. Thanks.

  • JP

    Our sailor was 1/30 PIR and staying on at GL. He did not have hotel restrictions. We stayed at Courtyard Waukegan not far from Springhill suites. I walked to Sarges Meet n Greet easily. Lots of food options nearby, w drive through Starbucks too.

    We parked at the MetraRail lot and loved being able to get in and out without lines of cars into/out of the garage. It was cold, but an easy walk even for a California girl (w my down coat and polartec hat). You stay in left lane, pass the entrance, stay on Buckley as it swoops, cross Sheridan and go straight into the lot (pay $1.50). Walk down under the train and other overpass and past all of the waiting cars to get in!

    For GL staying sailors, consider bringing them a snack. Ours (we had an adopted sailor too) were starved because ceremony ends at 10:30, and they were due back for transfer by 11:15. They were worried that the food lines were too long, so skipped food to be there by 11 (pics etc w us first) and had no food until we picked them up around 2:45.

    Read some of the earlier comments on things to do and just relaxing too. Courtyard helped us bring in a former Navy trainer for short massage for our guys at the hotel--they were so relaxed afterwards!

    Loved having our adopted sailor as his company kept conversations going that parents don't always hear! Had fabulous dinner at Lovell's and got to meet the astronaut himself who comped our sailors dinners. Unbelievably cool, and great atmosphere and food too(we were downstairs--more casual and fit us better)
  • Renee

    Our sailor flew out and we had no issues with him coming to the Navy Lodge.

  • Vickie360

    We were at O'Hare - Delta ticket counter
  • coachjb12003

    I am glad you guys enjoyed yourself it was an experience to me also My SR stay at GL for A School and we got to be with her from 7am-9:30pm maybe it was for those that stayed there for A School but my SR informed us she could not go to a couple of the hotels in the srea
  • Anti M

    The Navy Lodge and Gateway Suites on base are off limits for those who will be staying at Great Lakes for A school.  If they are Saturday departures, it is okay.

    The reason is the ones leaving are under RTC, and that command allows it.  The ones staying in Great Lakes check in on Friday and are then under TSC (Training Support Center) and that command placed the military hotels off limits to all their sailors.  This includes the new boot camp graduates.  

  • mamakitty

    That's weird. I keep seeing how SR's are not allowed at the Navy Lodge on graduation weekend... but my son came to our hotel BOTH days without issue. I don't even think they asked to see the chit that he had. We stayed at the Navy Lodge... and yes, he stayed in GL for A school. We also saw many other sailors at the same hotel coming and going...

    Is this a new rule?
  • MaryNavywife/mom

    this is from the official RTC facebook page:

    For guests staying at the Navy Lodge located in Navy housing (about 1.5 miles from RTC) or the Gateway inn & Suites, located across the street from RTC on the main base, please be aware of the following policy regarding your recruits ability to visit either location:

    Recruits who are still attached to RTC and will be flying out of state for their "A..." School are allowed to visit either hotel for graduation weekend.

    Recruits who are detaching from RTC and checking into "A" School at Training Support Center (TSC), Great Lakes, are restricted from visiting either location without a chit approval which will allow them to do so.

    Both locations are off-limits to TSC students except for those students who may be residents in housing. After they check into their new barracks at TSC following recruit graduation, the recruits will be given a liberty brief at which time they may request a chit which allows them to visit their family at either hotel for that weekenly only. All other times, they are not allowed at either location.

    Bottom line: Recruits going of out of state for "A" School may visit either hotel; students staying in Great Lakes for "A" School are required to get a chit approval to visit either hotel for graduation weekend only.

    This information is for the Navy Lodge and Gateway Inn & Suites only. Recruits are permitted to visit their families in any other area hotels.

  • MaryNavywife/mom

    LauraCam, I did taxes for both my Sailor sons, I went to IRS.gov and followed a link to free filing on turbo tax.  I did they taxes and it only needed an electronic signature. 

  • RPSMother

    MaryNavywife

    Thank you for the tidbit of information.  

  • diannep

    Just to add to MaryNavywife/mom's info below.  Yes, they can request a chit to visit families in those hotels....but lately, we have heard from previous PIR groups that these chits were denied---so sailors have not been allowed to visit families in those hotels.  Personally, I wouldn't take a chance on staying at Navy Lodge or Navy Gateway if I had a sailor attending A School in GL.  There are plenty of other hotels to stay at.  Some suggested are Courtyard, Springhill Suites, Residence Inn, and Holiday Inn Express.  Call these hotels directly and ask for the Navy Graduation rate.

  • diannep

    mamakitty:  You are experiencing what we have heard....sometimes the sailors are granted the chits, sometimes not.  We can't seem to find out why some can visit and others can't.

  • diannep

    Thanks for reporting that your sailor had no issues visiting you at the Navy hotel, Renee.  That is what we have heard....if they are flying out, no problems with the visits. 

  • CatMom509

    Good Morning!

         "Oh Lord, be gracious to us, we long for You.

          Be our strength every morning, our salvation

          in time of distress."

                                                              Isaiah 33:2

  • CatMom509

    Everyone,

    The new PIR 03/20/2015 group is not active and open!  Join here:

    http://navyformoms.com/group/pir03202015

  • diannep

    I think CatMom meant NOW active and open!

  • Vickie360

    Sailor flee to Florida on Saturday evening at 4:30pm. He was able to come to our hotel Friday afternoon and evening. He had to be back by 8:00 but wanted us to take him back by 7:00 so we did. We stayed st Navy Lodge.
  • Vickie360

    Flew not flee. LOL
  • TJ Proudnavymom

    Regarding the tax returns, unless you have power of attorney you shouldn't be signing the return for your SR (an electronic signature is still a signature). If they are already at BC they should be done by April 15. If not you can file an extension (4868) which does not require a signature.

  • C'sProudMomma

    Hi everyone!  My son is in Ship 13, Div 116. PIR 3/20/15, headed to Pensacola for A School.  Anyone else??

  • Navywife_Nuke

    C'sproudmomma when did your son ship out?
  • hearthhaven

    Okay, so now I am really freaking out and hoping someone can help with this.  Our son is at BC, PIR 2/27/15.  Ship 12 Division 100.  Our SRs all told us they probably won't get to call again until after battle stations.  I was fine with that.  But now we're all thinking that battle stations will be the week of graduation (the week of 2/22). And it's our understanding that the I'm a Sailor calls come Tuesdays thru Thursday.  Well, we are leaving in the wee hours of Thursday (flight leaves at 6am, 2/26).  What do we do if by some horrible chance he doesn't pass battle stations and we are already in flight?  We have 7 plane tickets!!!!  We could not even possibly think of paying for 7 more if things change.  Oh, please, please, somebody help me with this.  

  • C'sProudMomma

    @Navywife_Nuke...he shipped out 1/21/15.  

  • CryptoDad

    hearthhaven,

    Why do you think your Recruit is going to fail? Is he having trouble with physical fitness tests? Have you shared this concern with him?

    Inside secret: Nobody fails Battle Stations.

  • hearthhaven

    I don't think he's going to fail but I do realize there's always a possibility.  I'm not worried about his physical fitness tests. He will do fine with those.  It's the 'school/book' tests that I am more worried about.  Never been his strong suit.  He has told me he is struggling with those.  

    NO, I have absolutely NOT shared any concerns with him.  All I have done is send encouraging words, support, you can do it! 

    So if no one fails battle stations, but they didn't pass either a PFA or other test, would we know that prior to boarding our plane? 

  • mtnestr

    806 families and friends, I have a question. I thought my sailor said he was flying out at a certain time from Midway and his girlfriend thinks he said another time. We both had a bad connection. I know all 806 guys going to Pcola were flying together. Please PM me if you know what time they are flying out on Sat.  Don't post it here, please.

  • CryptoDad

    hearthhaven,

    If your Recruit fails anything other than Battle Stations you will know well in advance. And in that case he won't be doing Battle stations with his division.

    Now, turn some of that positive energy back onto yourself. And as always, no news is good news.

  • RTRbecca

    Hearthaven, you are probably good, but be prepared for changes. The advice to make all your travel plans flexible is important. After my SR was injured, I was so thankful that we made sure to purchase plane tickets that allowed us to just change the dates of our tickets. Hotels & car services were easily changed because they are used to the Navy graduation groups. Best wishes to you & your SR.
  • lemonelephant

    hearthhaven, see the info in Battle Stations-21 (BST).  You will know early in the week or before if there is a problem.

  • lemonelephant

    Cryptodad. yes, people do fail BST--a VERY small number. No one has failed BST more than once though and most of the time they will have PIR on time anyway, but there have been some who did not--that is VERY rare. See Battle Stations-21 (BST).

  • CryptoDad

    Has any Recruit ever been discharged from the Navy for failure to complete Battle Stations?

  • CatMom509

    hearthhaven,

    Please don't get yourself worrying about something (failing Battlestations) that will probably not happen to your SR.  Like CryptoDad said, turn that positive energy and encouragement that you give to your SR onto yourself~~  Your whole family is going to have a wonderful PIR with your soon-to-be-Sailor!!

  • CatMom509

    diannep,

    Good catch!!  I only had 4 hours of sleep and wasn't quite alert enough--no coffee yet.  Was planning on enjoying some when I got to my daughter's orthodontist's office!!

  • diannep

    I was wondering why you were on so early, CatMom!  Hope you are getting many more hours of sleep right now!  :-)

    CryptoDad:  Don't think we for sure know the answer to that one....since the Navy doesn't really communicate with us!  Although we have not heard of someone being discharged for failing BattleStations, you never know for sure that it hasn't ever happened.

  • diannep

    I agree with the others on here, hearthaven....keep your "eyes on the prize" and know you will have a sailor soon!

  • hearthhaven

    Thank you all for your calming advice! 

  • Renee

    Hearthhaven, our son had PIR on Jan. 30th.  His BS was the Wed. night before and we never got the "I'm a sailor" call. They had so much to do w/ grad practice etc.. they just didn't have the time. I think a lot of us who were there were on edge until we spoted our sailor as they marched into the parade hall Friday morning. They say no news is good news and it's true. If you haven't heard from your SR within a couple of days of PIR then it's probably a safe bet that he's just fine. They have put so much time and effort into these guys they aren't going to let them slip through the cracks over a test score. One of my son's fellow division recruits had to retake the final academic test. He did great the second time and went on to BS with everyone else. From all the things my son said, they helped each other study and prepare for whatever was needed. Teamwork at it's finest :)

  • AOWife825

    Hello all quick question? My further was just at their DEP meeting. They will be leaving February 18 for BC. My question is that at DEP meeting she was told that she will be able to keep her cell phone because there is now shortage on phone for phone calls, is this true? Also I friend of mines girlfriend just graduated and while in boot camp was able to FaceTime her. Also has anyone received "the box" with out the cell phone in it? Thank you!
  • Anti M

    That phone rumor has been around for years.  Not true yet.

    Face Time in boot camp?  Navy boot camp?!

  • Tiff S

    My son left 1/5, he brought his phone & it came back in his box..
  • Renee

    I know they can get on the computer to get info they may need for their background clearance, as well as call home if needed. I wonder if this is how that mom got "face time"? One of the times I spoke w/ my son while he was in BC he mentioned something about other recruits taking advantage of the time given for these types of calls.

  • Anti M

    That, or while they had a break over at the NEX, "Ricky Heaven", and could access the paid computers to get online.  Certainly not from private cell phones of their own.

    Anyone in a leadership position (RPOC, yeoman) often get more calls because they have access to office phones or computers.  Not a secret, but not mentioned because it applies to so few recruits.

  • lionness21

    Just received the box two days ago and the cell phone was included.

  • AOWife825

    Ok so I'm now confused. Her recruited told her yes she can keep it. A guy who just got of boot camp said recruits have the option. But can only use cell phone on weekends. I'm just gonna get her a phone card just incase. Any ideas for a good one?
  • CatMom509

    AOGirlfriend825,

    Good to be prepared and get a calling card.  Also, activate it first and make sure it works to avoid any delay in using it in Boot Camp.  Get one with at least 300 minutes.  Think Walgreens carries them~~

  • CatMom509

    Hello Friends!

         "Trust in the Lord and do good;

          dwell in the land, and feed on

          His faithfulness."

                                       Psalm 37:3