Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

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  • jennifer

    I have read many things...go by what your son tells you. I know I got scolded bc my son is on the email pilot and I sent a pic of his grandpa...with pretend pig tails ...we thought it was hilarious. My response was ...this is a military site email....can't send pics like that. So I am overly cautious.
  • Proud Navy Mom 2017

    Jennifer- I just read your post about instructions for sending stuff to Boot Camp.  Where are these?

  • jennifer

    Much of what I read was just grazing through this site. Also the recruit magazine that your SR got to study from prior to going. It said what they had to take and a general overview. Also I have a friend who did this 3 or 4 years ago. His advice...was to Wes -Do not get noticed. Do everything they tell you and lie low. That includes letters and stickers etc. Keep it basic. I know we don't want to cause them extra pushups etc. I just kept reading blogs and there is a link somewhere about letter writing. I know Lemonelephant has sent it out before.
  • Proud Navy Mom 2017

    Nevermind, I found it.  I'm worried because these last 6 days, I have written to him on colored post-its.  They're the longer rectangular ones. Just notes as I go throughout my day, but colored nonetheless.  Will this be ok?

  • jennifer

    Probably fine. I'm just a cautious person. They are in survival mode. Lots of learning. I chose only white ....don't panic
  • jennifer

    Proud - you put them inside envelopes...it will be fine. I also read that white paper and black ink...shows up at night better if they are trying to sneak a peek at the letters!
  • Kristin

    is it best to buy a challenge coin online or wait until PIR?

  • tutorlady

    @ Kristin - speaking from my experience at PIR last week, buy it on-line if you can.  It has to be picked up at the NEX at the same place where they pick up their pictures - if they didn't have them sent home.  And. The. Line. Is. CRAZY. Long!!!!

  • raising3247

    My son's girlfriend has sent him pictures and he hasn't had any issues.  I read that you can send anything that will fit in a flat envelope.  I guess it depends on their RDC and how hard nosed they want to be about things.  We also slipped some pictures into my sons Bible that he took with him.  

  • TessaNator⚓️

    I bought challenge coins online, don't wanna stand in line all day when I could b relaxing w/my kiddo
  • Mar3n1

    I sent pictures printed out on paper so that he wouldn't be called to share in front of everyone. I was told that was the safest bet. And not to send anything he wouldn't be comfortable and or proud to show his commanders.
  • SCSunshine777

    Mine came UPS. My phone messed up and I had to do insurance claim and left the note on the door where to leave the box and put "to" Fedex/UPS. Funny thing is I was expecting my phone box instead note was gone and it was "the box". So, I was thankful that coincidentally I left note on door and they left her box for me. My phone came later that night when I was home. I thought, "Oh no. Now I didn't have a note all day for my phonr." It worked out though. So, just leave a note with your signature and number on the door.
  • Lesliepartyof6

    Could someone please point me in the direction to find out more about the challenge coin? I saw it somewhere...but I have learned so much through here i just can't remember where to go or where I saw something about it.
  • librarianmom

    I am going to go ahead and send a small photo of his dog as requested.
  • Nicole

    I did too!
  • Nicole

    My son begged me in his letter to get the dog pic sent
  • tutorlady

    Mine just graduated from PIR.  To err on the safe side, I always scanned or uploaded pics and then copied and pasted them onto a document (and wrote a short note as well).  I always wrote with the thought that anything "might" be read before he received it.  Also, sending pics in document form made the letters less bulky for him to have to store.

  • jennifer

    Tutorlady...I'm with you. But from reading all that I have inn the past 2 months..everyone has a slightly different experience and rules. I figured for 9 Fridays he can deal and then I can send whatever he wants in A school. I did the same thing you did. Someone had suggested that. I just got a 2nd letter. So happy!!! My SR doesn't write like the others...states too busy w his job. Not much free time.
  • Tanya

    Hi, When my son leaves the RTC and goes to school in California can I give him his stuff at the airport?  I was going to pack a suite case with some clothing,shoes, socks ect for him to take and have instead of sending it when he gets there.  If someone has the answer otherwise I was gong to call his recruiter.  I want to make sure he has what he needs but do not want to get him in trouble.  Our one family friend who was in the Air Force told him to keep his head down and don't draw attention to himself.  I would feel horrible if he was in trouble because of me and my need to mother him.

  • Anti M

    Tanya, you can take a suitcase to the airport, but be aware he is already carrying his full uniform issue, and will be loaded down with that.  He cannot wear his civilian clothes for a minimum of two weeks anyway.  He won't get in trouble, but it may be a hassle for him.  He probably will want new underwear for sure!  They all do.  I would ask your son what he prefers.  

  • Proud Parent of 3 Sailors

    The challenge coins at PIR will be your SR's division and their divisions flag coin. Those you can only get at the base PIR. I had a son graduate last year and one is graduating a week from tomorrow, so excited. Waiting for my I'm a Sailor" call, should be soon.
  • Proud Parent of 3 Sailors

    I am bringing a small back pack with a Few outfits, underwear, flip flops, could also include laptop if they have one, tablet or other small handheld system. My son prepackaged this before he left. He can throw it on his back and carry it on the plane. My 1st son could not wait to get civilian clothes so he had me send him a box, while waiting he went to the NEX and bought clothes. Otherwise they have to wear their digital everywhere.
  • AnchorsAweigh!

    @Soccermom,thank you again for all the great information, I really appreciate it. Being from England, I am or we are huge football/soccer fans. Chelsea is our team! Thanks again.
  • 3B'smom

    @AnchorsAweigh! My husband and son (not the SR) are Westham fans.
  • AnchorsAweigh!

    @3b'smom, I still love singing "I'm forever blowing bubbles!' Much to the disgust of the rest of the one less household.. haha
  • lemonelephant

    Here are the current PIR groups:

    PIR: July 28, 2017 TG 38 - 9 Divisions (227-234 & 938) 4 guests

    PIR: August 4, 2017 TG 39 - 11 Divisions (235-244 & 939) 4 guests

    PIR: August 11, 2017 TG 40 - 8 Divisions (245-250, 818 & 940) 4 guests

    PIR: August 18, 2017 TG 41 - 7 Divisions (251-256 & 941) 4 guests

    PIR: August 25, 2017 TG 42 - 9 Divisions (257-264 & 942) 4 guests

    PIR: September 1, 2017 TG 43 - 13 Divisions (265-276 & 943) 3 guests (This is Labor Day Weekend. If your recruit will be staying in GL for “A” School or training, s/he will also have Liberty on Monday. The holiday weekend will not affect those flying out.)

    PIR: September 8, 2017 TG 44  - 14 Divisions (277-286, 819-821 & 944) 3 guests

    PIR: September 15, 2017 TG 45

    Click on the date of your recruit’s PIR and join the group to connect with others with loved ones training with your recruit.

  • Soccer Mom

    @AnchorsAweigh and @3B'smom...you all are awesome, but we are Man U fans!  Really, only because everyone says my son's style of play is like Rooney's.  We LOVE soccer and watch it too much.  Real Madrid and MLS All-Stars will be playing on Aug 2 at Soldier Field, if anyone is going up early for Aug 4th graduation.  There was a major game being played when we were there, but the game would have gone too late and my son didn't want to spend the money on the tickets if he couldn't stay for the whole game.  

  • raising3247

    My son played soccer from 5th grade all the way through high school, both for his school and travel during the off season. He is hoping whatever base he gets sent to might have a rec league soccer team or something like that. I'm sure his cleats and ball will go with him. He's a Chelsea fan. As far as pros go he really likes Lionel Messi.
  • proudmamaNavystrong

    Is there a way to find out what A School your SR will be going to?

  • Phoenixmom

    you can ask his recruiter what he choose as a trade and he should also know where he will be going to school. hope that helps.

  • ProudNavyMom

    It's crazy... The first couple of weeks I just didn't know what to send. I didn't want to distract my son and make him homesick. People say to "remind him why he's here" to inspire him and make him strong. But his wasn't a noble reason... he didn't have great grades and he didn't want to go to college! I sent "you can do it" messages and reminded him of how tough his football and wrestling coaches were... He did ask for photos of his toddler niece and I sent pics of his dogs. He also said that it was mentally boring because there is so much repetition. So he wanted brain twisters. I ended up sending... Garfield and other comic strips... I bought a copy of a muscle car magazine and sent articles... I looked through his netflix history (he binge watched series) and sent trivia and bloopers from IMDB... I didn't tell him about new episodes of his shows... he wouldn't want spoilers... although I'll be surprised if he hasn't talked about the new GOT! I also went through the day by day list of boot camp and asked him for specifics. Of course he's not a writer so I didn't get answers but I felt that would remind him that we are thinking about him.

  • NickSydmom

    For those ladies who have dealt with my complaints,brace yourselves, I got a letter from my boy. He is division 276. He said he was doing good mostly bored. He said a lot of guys in the division are struggling and he is afraid they might delay their PIR. I'm sure the boys will pull it together.
  • raising3247

    Nicknukemom - My son also says that boot camp is boring. I think it's the repetition.
  • Phoenixmom

    Nicknukemom I understand what you are saying my SR is complaining about being bored also, and I let him know that they all need to be focused on what may be coming up. a lot of them have no clue as to what BST-21 is or anything like that. I really believe that we know more of what is too come than they do. so we need to keep telling them to stay focused and to come together as  Brother Divisions if they know who that may be because they will need to depend on each other when that time comes to be able to help each other. I have to also keep reminding my son why he is there.

  • TAT'sMom

    Proudnavymom, but he did make a noble decision to be a defender of his country. This is huge! Not many will sacrifice their time and freedom to do such a noble and strong thing as joining our military! He is awesome, it is easier to go to college and play sports, my son did for one year. But to give yourself and follow such a routine and a way of life as the Navy, this is no small thing. He has made a very mature and life changing decision, so yes ma'am he did join for a noble reason. Good for him for wanting this. College is not always for everyone and sometimes it's better to go later when you know more what you want to do. Thank him for choosing to serve and God bless him on his new journey!
  • raising3247

    Phoenixmom - My son said that his division is having a hard time working as a team. I told him I hope they get things figured out before Battlestation -21 or they are going to be fighting an uphill battle. I watched the YouTube video and I don't think they realize what they are in for.
  • Phoenixmom

    Yes I feel the same, and it is concerning...But like I said we know more about was is coming up for them than they do, and I don't understand why... but we need to let our SR's know that they are their for a reason, and this is what they chose to do which is great, and I can understand the repetition of doing things over and over can get boring, but practice makes perfect. so I have been speaking and writing to my son and explaining why he shouldn't be feeling this way...and focus , focus, focus! things will change and then when it does you will be so overwhelmed with the things to come....I feel it is important to let them know...thanks raising3247.

  • jennifer

    Tatsmom...that was great! I understand what Proudnavy mom was saying...maybe initially his conviction wasn't as strong as some but he still did it. Awesome kids ladies! My son write me his physical fitness results so that I could spur his friend on at West point. I sent the letter today to get the banter going. Army/ Navy has that anyway. Especially the sports!
  • Lesliepartyof6

    Raising3247- what DIV is your son in?? My son talked alot about his DIV not working together and goofing off alot causing punishments on those who are not playing around and such.
  • KiddGreen1978

    ProudmommaNavyStrong: my oldest son was the same way. It wasn't his first choice, but now he loves it and is doing well after boot camp. So ditto at what TatsMom said!

    Now my second son is there and he's trying to adjust, but he's always wanted this life. He's also concerned about making it thru due to others not wanting to conform to the rules. All I can tell him is remember why you decided to join and know that I'm super proud of your decision!

    Go Navy!
  • raising3247

    Leslie - My son is in Div 253. He said they lost their phone calls because of it.
  • Lesliepartyof6

    Raising3247- oh no!! My son is DIV 276 . I hope they start working together as a team. Also I wanted to share this site i stumbled on trying to figure things out... its awesome!! I didnt realize that their forst week was considered a dead week due tono days. So even though mine has been there for 3 weeks hes actuallt on 2-5 (week2 day 5) He more tham likely had his wisdom teeth extracted today. This site made me feel better knowing his almost exact daily events. That's IF they aren't in a push DIV I believe.
    http://www.navydep.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433
  • Mar3n1

    My son said much of the same thing at first but his division pulled together in the end and even placed first at some stuff. They learn to work together as a team.
  • raising3247

    Leslie - Thanks for sharing that website.  My son said that almost everyone in his division had to have their wisdom teeth pulled but he didn't have to.  Hopefully your son can avoid it too.  

    Mar3n1 - I am hoping that Div 253 and their brother division (254) pull it together soon.  

  • Phoenixmom

    iMar3n1 I am hoping for the same. that they come together as a Team.... although my son hasn't mentioned anything about his Div. not working together or losing any privileges. I guess we shall see.... I hope you Ladies have a Good night and Great weekend.....

  • tutorlady

    @raising3247. My sailor recently graduated RTC. I think it's not uncommon for the division to have challenges working together at first. They have had huge changes and adjustments. I think you will see that they come together as a team soon.
  • Lesliepartyof6

    3247- you're very welcome! His were definitely impacted on the lower. He did mention that it would happen in one of his letters...he wasn't too exited about it.
    I believe most of the divisions are trying to figure out how to work together. They'll figure it out. I told my son to remember the mud runs he did...you can't finish those unless you have ALL of your team members, even though you are an hour ahead of them waiting at the finish line. You can't cross until the remaining of your team gets to you. Team work makes the dream work!
  • NickSydmom

    Nick didn't complain much. He said marching is fun and since he is one of the tallest he gets to wear an orange vest and direct traffic. I didn't mean to sound negative. Most of his letter was upbeat. He was even cracking jokes.
  • NickSydmom

    Leslie party of six my son is in 276 also.
  • Anti M

    Every division takes at least three or four weeks to come together.  I experienced this back when I was in boot camp, when we had one in Orlando.  Completely normal.  They'll be so proud when they begin achieving goals and earning privileges!