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Chipmunk
In general your SR is allowed to contact you if there is a change in their training schedule. So if they test positive for COVID, they might call to let you know that and they have been set back for another 2 week ROM, but they won't necessarily call to tell you when they are out of ROM or how they are doing during that time.
If anything changes with their projected PIR date, they should be able to contact you as well. But further phone calls may or may not happen.
Dec 15, 2020
Shanny
Chipmunk:. The 18 year old HIPPA thing was so hard for me. Last year, my son had what they called double lung pneumonia. High fever, horrible cough, so weak he could barely lift his head, and an oxygen level at 83%. Took him to the ER and they gave him breathing treatments and got him up to 89%. Sent him home. In the meantime, he turned 18. So I called his doctor when he wasn’t improving to get him an appointment. They wouldn’t let me make the appointment or even speak to me about it because of his age! The kid was 90% on his breathing after 2 weeks, still had a fever and was weak. But they wouldn’t even let me make his appointment.
Dec 15, 2020
Phoenixmom
Mrs. Shanny you will just fine as will your Sailor, you got this and so does he! Thank You PartyofSeven for the Great Scripture!
Dec 15, 2020
warriorprotector
Good morning ladies! I'm glad you enjoyed the google eyes! Yes, my daughter is very kind and funny. All three of my children are characters and our house is/was always filled with laughter. Northwoodsmom, it brought tears when you said how sad it is to when that joy has left your house as an empty nester. Hanging on tight to my third!
Mom2blondies: There is nothing harder than the military life and there is nothing more rewarding. I've been a military mom for over 4 years and a military brat my whole life. I think being a child of a military man helped me with this process, but it is so hard to be a mother of a person in the military. If you have never been exposed to the realities of military life it can seem like some strange alien world.
BBH, Shanny, POS, NWM and all the other lovely ladies have great insight. Your are a Navy mom because your child made a choice and now you have to dig DEEP to accept and support that choice. I am a firm believer in giving my concerns over to God. As a mom we must become Warrior Moms...being stronger than you thought possible and braver than you want to be. You must find a way to steel yourself to the fact you have no say in their lives as they protect our country, as they serve so we can sleep at night as a nation. In our family we always knew it was God, Country and Family with service above self.
Our children have chosen a path of honor, braveness, selflessness and duty. We have to gather our inner strength and let them know without a doubt we support their choice. Tell them you pray for their safety and are proud. You don't want them to worry about you, they must focus on their job. They know you are their north star. You will worry, it's a dangerous job being in the military but praying has helped me tremendously. The support and kindness of this group has been a gift, I left other social media groups for OPSEC reasons and because it was stressful how people treated each other.
Tears come and go, it does get better but it's difficult not to see or hear your child's voice for long periods of time. I just saw my younger son for the first time in 3 years, he was deployed a lot and then Covid. I told myself I wouldn't cry and then he was out of the car and hugging me hard. Yep, total puddle. I had 5 days, 5 days of laughing and random tears. He loves his job, he is well and signing up for another 6 years. I can be strong. I can be brave. And now I'll do that for my oldest starting in the Navy. YOU GOT THIS M2B! Hooyah Navy! Hooyah Warrior Moms!
Dec 15, 2020
Phoenixmom
Morning Prayer:
Dear Heavenly Father, I praise you for power and glory revealed in the majesty of your creation. I thank you for your work in transforming and recreating me, as well. Please continue your transforming work in me. Make me what you want me to be. In Jesus' name. Amen
Dec 15, 2020
warriorprotector
Lovely prayer Phoenixmom! Have a blessed day ladies!
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Phoenixmom
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Phoenixmom
PIR January 2021
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Phoenixmom
Thank You WarriorProtector!
Dec 15, 2020
Anti M
Good morning everyone, I hope this new day brings some measure of joy.
Party, I actually feel okay this morning. We got snow, and a kind internet stranger in a regional group I am in came and shoveled for me. She will come over for the next storm too, but I have to teach her more about moving snow around. She moved here from Florida, so she's not winterized yet. LOL, and here I am, essentially a Californian...
My niece brought me some orange chicken from Winco and an Amazon gift card. Whoo, there's my Yule festivities right there.
Dec 15, 2020
DoriBry
warriorprotector-Well said
AnitM-So glad you are feeling better and thankful for the kind stranger.
I hope you wonderful moms have a nice day!
Dec 15, 2020
partyofseven
Phoenixmom- Thank you for our prayer. Amen!!
Whoo hoo on getting a check back that is always good news.
warriorprotector- Tell your son thank him for his service. That is exactly how my hug was when I first saw mine. It had been a year since I had seen him. I will always cherish that memory. And those words I've missed you. Ah what it does to our momma hearts. Thank you for sharing and posting your insight on this area as well. I have my moments as my Sailor is my baby but I am getting better with it and I am thankful for that. I'm sure he is to. Lol
Anti M- Yay that is great news. That's funny about your winterized story. Lol You can help her as well.
Love me some orange chicken. Enjoy!!!
Dec 15, 2020
partyofseven
DoriBry- Good Morning,
You have a great day as well!!!
Dec 15, 2020
Phoenixmom
Good Morning Anti M so glad that you are up and about feeling better. It's been pretty chilly here in Phx. But I love it!
PartyofSeven hope you are enjoying your time! Right! a Little money back is good to me!
Dec 15, 2020
Shortcake
Good morning Ladies!!!
My morning therapy while I wait.
Enjoy the day!
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Dec 15, 2020
partyofseven
Phoenixmom- Yes I am!! He went out with his friends last night and had a good time. He seems to finally be settling down which is good. :)
Yes mam it is. We got our Xmas bonus on Tuesday. I was happy and pleased as I never expect it. It's always a good blessing when that happens.
Shortcake- Good Morning. Hoping you receive a call today.
Dec 15, 2020
Phoenixmom
Good Job PartyofSeven! Whoooo HOOOO! the state doesn't give us bonuses I wish! they barely give us raises. LOL!
Dec 15, 2020
partyofseven
Phoenixmom- That's funny!! You made me laugh at that one. I always say pick one when talking about my kids. Lol
We had one too. Yes it is a good stress relief. Lol
I wish they did to. I know raises come slowly at times don't they. lol
Dec 15, 2020
Shortcake
Thank you everyone for your thoughts and prayers!
Phoenixmom - I work out with a personal trainer once a week (now through a zoom call because of COVID), he used to be a boxer. I was a figure skater (on roller skates lol) growing up. He recommended I try boxing because of my posture, balance, fluid movement, and possibly my red headedness lol. I took to boxing very quick. I love it. I have gotten away from the healthy lifestyle choices I was accustomed to, but I am trying to get back there. Today was the first day I really felt up to doing a full work out.
Partyofseven - I am so happy for you for the time you get with your Sailor. Boots in the house! Congrats on the Christmas bonus! Those are always wonderful, but especially around this time of year when cash seems to flow heavily.
AntiM - That was so nice of someone to shovel your snow! My husband and I have talked about moving out of California now that we are empty nesters, but we inevitably know that means snow; which neither of us is accustomed to.
Shanny - HIPAA compliance is a hard one when it comes to our kids. I was on the other side of the fence for 15 years having worked in healthcare. We had so many calls from worried parents, but unless we had consent on file, our hands were tied. It's not easy hearing the concern and worry in a parent's voice and not being able to help. As a parent myself, it was often heart breaking. Although, not making an appointment is a new one to me. A parent could call in and make an appointment, but we would have to follow up with the patient directly. I would recommend The 100 Foot Journey on Netflix. I really enjoyed that movie. Big hugs!
Well, I'm on a cleaning mission, so I'll sign off for now. Have a wonderful day ladies!
Dec 15, 2020
Phoenixmom
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Chipmunk
AntiM - Glad to hear you are doing better today. I had to laugh at your comment though about your FL friend shoveling snow for you! I also liked your Mr. & Mrs. Claus picture!
Shanny - Not being able to make an appointment for your 18 yr old is a new one on me as well. But yes, it stings!!
Good to hear from everyone else, I got home from my appt and need to get back at my tasks!! We have snow coming down again!! :-)
Dec 15, 2020
Shanny
shortcake: I think that is what irritates me... I wasn’t even talking to the phone nurse. I literally called the appointment line. He was 3 weeks into double lung pneumonia and not getting any better. And they wouldn’t even let me make the appointment. Ended up back at the ER with him and them saying he had a very “abnormal case of pneumonia”. Second round of antibiotics and breathing treatments. His fever finally broke while we were in the ER. And he was kind enough to share whatever it was with me. I was sick for 6 weeks, given an antibiotic we found out I was allergic to when my tongue started swelling and I couldn’t swallow. My diagnosis was also double lung pneumonia.
I am having a hard time finding something I want to watch on Netflix lately. I don’t know if it’s my moods but nothing ever seems what I want. I have started like 5 different shows today but nothing seems... right. So I am watching Virgin River again.
maybe I should take up boxing. It may relieve this need to punch someone in the face every now and then ;)
Anti M: I’d come over with the snow blower and help if I were closer! I’ve been doing ours for years. My son only liked doing it when there was enough to get the 4wheeler out with the plow on it. And he would only do it late in the day. M glad you have help! Snow is so pretty to look at but a pain to move!
partyofseven:. I hope you are having a great time with your sailor!
still waiting to get a text or something this morning. I know he said he had paperwork to do this morning. This mama is impatient now that he can see his new base in the daylight! I feel much better after talking to him
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Phoenixmom
Dec 15, 2020
Shanny
and just as I hit send my phone rang! A girl my son knows contacted him and asked him questions about the Navy and asked him to put her in contact with a recruiter he knows personally. So he called the recruiter he had right before he left. (His went back to the fleet before he left) the recruiter called her and she signed today. The recruiter got permission to sign the papers for him to get 5 days credit on his leave since he did the work to get her in and COVID wouldn't allow him to do visits while he was home
Dec 15, 2020
Shanny
PhoenixMom: hope all is well! Thinking of you and wishing you a great rest of your day!
Dec 15, 2020
partyofseven
Shortcake- Thank you and I know I was very surprised to have gotten it. :)
Phoenximom- Prayers for you as you go for your checkup. Have a great rest of the day. I love that you guys are into boxing. That's pretty neat!!
Shanny- Yay for phone calls. :)
Dec 15, 2020
DoriBry
Shanny-On netflix there is a new movie out called "Hillbilly Elegy" and it is very good. Just a recommendation.
Dec 15, 2020
mom2blondies
Thank you ladies for the words of encouragement (and reality)! Those comments I saw just really hit a raw nerve for me, knowing how scared those parents must be, wanting to frantically rush to their sick/injured child and being told to just suck it up because they don't belong to them anymore.
We too went through infertility that was actually unsuccessful and months into exploring other options I became pregnant with my oldest. After that we figured if it happened again we would be beyond blessed and while we thought it might take years, if ever, to have another, we started trying and it happened much faster than we anticipated making my boys just 19 months apart.
My SR and I had many long, emotional discussions about him joining for about a year prior. I was not at all supportive of it in the beginning (I'm not proud of this and apologized to him) and just couldn't understand why he would want to. He had accomplished so much and had worked so hard and was a couple years into a successful career at an age that is unheard of. It was also a dangerous career but my mind had already processed those dangers and I knew how passionate he was about it and supported him wholeheartedly. This change of gears was not easy for me and he was so patient and over the course of a year started educating me on what he wanted to do and explaining why made me see that this was HIS life, HIS decision, HIS path and one night I just broke down in tears and told him, "I'm so sorry I didn't support you from the start. I never want to be the reason you do not follow a dream. If you need to do this, you do it and don't worry about me. My feelings are not your responsibility or burden to bear and I will be ok." I think that is what he needed to hear because the next week he started the process. I also thanked him for not just enlisting without telling me because he totally could have. He just chuckled and said, "I thought about it."
It feels impossible to think about going months and even years without seeing his face. How??? How can I survive that? No clue right now but I will, I do know that.
Dec 15, 2020
mom2blondies
Shanny, I've been doing the same Netflix thing!! I've started several things and get annoyed and start something else. I just finished Virgin River, hoping for another season! Hillbilly Elegy was a good recommendation from DoriBry. 2 nights ago I landed on The Queen's Gambit and have really been enjoying that. It is nothing like I thought it would be.
Dec 15, 2020
Shanny
DorIBry:. I really liked Hillbilly Elegy!!!
mom2blondies: I started watching the Queens Gambit and forgot about it!! I’m going to get back to that one! I was enjoying it! This is my second time watching Virgin River. I felt like I rushed through Season 2 as soon as it came out! Watched Cobra Kai last night. I watched Manhunt: Dangerous Games about the Olympics bomber in Atlanta. That was really good. I was so clueless on how Richard Jewel was railroaded. I may try Manhunt:Unabomber next.
Dec 15, 2020
belovedbyHim
I Just wanted to stop by and say I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad or cause more worry or stress than we already carry but I also don't want to lie to you and say that this is all peaches and cream and that the Navy live is an easy life. I am a servant of the ONE who is All Truth and while I try and be gentle, because I needed that once too, Sometimes there is no gentle way to share the truth. If I have cause you grief I am sorry that was not my intention.
Dec 15, 2020
Shanny
BelovedbyHim: I have always appreciated your help and honesty and a kick on the pants when I have needed it! For whatever it’s worth. I hope the rest of your day is amazing!
Dec 15, 2020
DoriBry
Shanny and mom2blondies-I keep hearing about the Queens Gambit so will give it a try. With Netflix I spend more time searching than watching.
Dec 15, 2020
VintageGal
Hello ladies, busy day at work but I also wanted to stop in and say hello!
Shortcake ~ I love that you’re working out to stay sane right now! :) that’s a great idea! The whole week I was waiting for my call I kept saying - here we go!
Northwoodsmom and belovedbyhim ~ thank you so much for your words wisdom. We all appreciate your insight into this life. How do I gently pass this along to my sons fiancé...
Shanny ~ Hey Mama, I sent you a PM. AnyWho the show The Ranch it’s a bit crass but it is hysterical and there’s a bit of drama. If you liked the cast of That 70 Show then you might like this. Hey! I saw that your son got a five day leave bonus! How rewarding!
I definitely want to check out the show Hillbilly Elegy!
mom2blondies ~ hello! I’m right there with you. My mouth dropped open when I read that warrior hadn’t seen her youngest for three years. Breeeeathe. We’ll all continue to cheer from the sidelines! RA RA HOOYAH!
Hope everyone has a wonderful day and a nice evening!
Dec 15, 2020
belovedbyHim
As for the time... Well, You just take it one day at a time and soon the days add up to weeks and the weeks to months and the months to years. If you look at it from the front it is Overwhelming but if you just focus on here and now and what communication you DO have then that makes getting through that much easier!
Dec 15, 2020
belovedbyHim
Dec 15, 2020
Northwoodsmom
Prayers for all of you traveling as well as your loved ones. May God keep you in His protective arms.
Dec 15, 2020
partyofseven
DoriBry- About Netflix that what I do to. I get frustrated cause I don't really know what to watch. Lol
Hope your having a good day.
Dec 15, 2020
Shortcake
I have a Sailor!!! Check in with you ladies tomorrow!!! He sounded so good and we laughed and laughed. This mama can finally breath a bit!
Dec 15, 2020
DoriBry
Shortcake-YAY!!!! Congratulations to your new Sailor. I am so happy for you.
Dec 15, 2020
VintageGal
Shortcake ~ CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR SAILIR AND YOUR FAMILY!!! BRAVO ZULU!! Enjoy your celebrations!!
Dec 15, 2020
mom2blondies
Oh Shortcake that is amazing!! Congrats to him!!
Dec 15, 2020
VintageGal
Belovedbyhim ~ thank you so much for the advice. You are 100% right on all accounts! Marriage does take a lot of work and I absolutely agree with reading books on communication and respect. My husband and I read Men are from Mars Women are from Venus when we were dating. We have a couple copies and will be passing them along to our son as well. Another book that our family has red is the color code by Dr. Taylor Hartman. I highly recommend that to everyone, whether they’re single or married. I definitely worry about my future daughter-in-law And how she will be able to cope with him being gone at times. Luckily this was his plan even before they started dating so she knew what she was getting herself into “roughly”. I’m glad that she is working and going to school to keep busy at this time. I also told my son that of course I was a bit immature as we all were at their age and you grow with time. Luckily he is very levelheaded and doesn’t really beat around the bush. He says he totally knows when to pick and choose his battles and when to give information and when it isn’t necessary and how it can cause problems. I also told my son that of course I was a bit immature when I was their age and you grow with time and so will she. Luckily he is very levelheaded and knows when to pick and choose his battles and when to give information and when it isn’t necessary. He’s a wise soul. I’m so proud of him! Thanks again!
Dec 15, 2020
partyofseven
Whoo hoo We have a Sailor in the house!!!! Congratulations Shortcake to you and your Sailor. May God watch over and protect him every day as he begins this new journey!!!
Hooyah!!!!!
Dec 15, 2020
Shanny
Wooohooo!!! We have a SAILOR!!!! CONGRATS SHORTCAKE!!!!!!
Dec 15, 2020
Chipmunk
Shortcake - BZ - Bravo Zulu to your new sailor!!!
Dec 15, 2020
Shanny
So i think the Navy may ban my son from going anywhere ever again.... went to boot camp... they had a tornado touch down outside their hotel... went to Pensacola... they had 3 hurricanes in a row they had to prepare for evacuation.... goes to Virginia.... now there is a huge winter storm heading that direction. He always said when he was little that he wanted to be a storm chaser... looks like the storms are chasing him!
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