Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

**BEGINNING OCTOBER 5, 2023, RECRUIT GRADUATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY THURSDAY (NO LONGER ON FRIDAY), EXCEPT FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, WHEN GRADUATION IS ON WEDNESDAY.

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  • Northwoodsmom

    belovedbyHim, I hope you didn't take it as disrespectful. I never meant it like that. Our hearts we're so raw during this time we just couldn't see anything beyond our pain. Please know I have nothing but respect for all of you seasoned Moms and sometime the truth hurts but we needed it to be told to us. Now that I have grown in my duty as a Navy Mom I would never jeopardize our Sailors. You all were right, I just couldn't see it.

  • belovedbyHim

    AgnesB-- It’s not a silly thing. It’s natural to wonder how this big of a life change will affect them and their personality! I’m glad you shared with us that our chatter was helpful. We don’t want to overwhelm but we also don’t want to leave folks in the dark.

    Shanny-- I know you were. I however Do NOT have patience for these kids who abuse our sailors like she did. I have seen it far more than I care for and am a bit over Nice.

    Northwoodsmom-- Oh NO!!! Never!!! I had an experienced mom say something to me when I was a new mom that I got upset about because my emotions were raw and I was not thinking clearly. So I KNEW Exactly how you were feeling both then and NOW. My Comment was to show that we were also heart broken for you because we KNEW what PIR meant and how desperately you and all our COVID moms want to see their sailors! It’s just killing us that we cannot offer hope beyond “Someday”.

  • Mama Bear

    Northwoodsmom -  I thought I typed Feb.  Not sure how May got in there.  Hope its not a sign of things to come...knock wood.

  • Shanny

    AgnesB:  so happy you had a phone call!  Just hearing them say they are ok is just a stress reliever. I have to say I still feel that way now and he had PIR September 24th and has been in the fleet since December 14th!  I noticed a lot of attitude shift between his leaving and now. But we are from a very small town and he is being exposed to a lot of things he never would have been here. So I am very happy to see the changes. 

  • partyofseven

    AgnesB,

     Welcome to our group. We are so glad you are hear. I left a welcome for you on your my page. I am so glad you found our comment wall.  :) 

    No question is ever dumb and someone will answer you. Keep your phone on you at all times and answer every call and keep your ringer on loud so you don't miss any calls.

    Start writing now so when  your form letter comes you can send those letters off right away. The trick is keeping busy. Also number your letters so your Recruit will know what order you wrote them in.

    I am going to post some links for you to read.  :) This link is where you can sign up to see what mail is coming especially wonderful for when we are waiting to hear from our loved ones!!

    Informed Delivery®

    First Things First-- The Quarantine Edition

    Boot Camp First Weeks Timeline

    Yay for phone calls!! whoo hoo that is great. It is awesome when we finally get to talk to them. :) I am glad he sounded so happy. 

    Mama Bear- Hey, this is good to know about his PIR date. I wasn't sure when you first posted it.  :) Now Feb. sounds a lot better!!!  :)

  • AgnesB

    We are also from small town, less than 100 people. One of the positives in small towns/schools is you get exposed to a variety of things that might not have necessarily spoke to your skill set. Sometimes they need a warm body and that just might be you. And you get to figure it out. On the other hand our world at times seems narrow & isolated. It's hard to imagine he has as many people in his Div as in our city limits. The phone call was great, like you said it is just good to hear they are OK. I never realized it was so easy to be proud, excited and apprehensive at the same time! Thank you for the encouraging words.

  • Chipmunk

    Good night everyone! I see I am going to be playing catch up tomorrow. Be sure to check your My Page for any new comments or messages in the Inbox!

  • Mama Bear

    Thanks for the welcome, ALL!  And thanks for the Informed Delivery tip Partyofseven

    I'm not having too much stress with this change, compared to most probably.  My kids have never been a really chatty with me about their lives. Since I'm retired law enforcement, I usually just interrogate them if I need information that is not readily apparent.  I do usually stalk them electronically though via the GPS on their phones.  That way I know where to start looking if they turn up missing.  Morbid, I know, but you may or may not find out I'm a little different ;) 

    Both of my kids went away for college.  And my son, who is in the Navy now went out of state last year.  So, I'm okay with sending him away.  He is my baby though, so I'm most stressed by not being able to see or at least know for sure where he is.  I'm trusting God and the Navy that nothing bad has happened because I haven't gotten a phone call.  

    I'm also not too stressed with what he is going through in BC.  I went through a version of BC when I attended the police academy.  We have talked about the stress they will put him under and the purpose of it.  He understands its a mental toughness thing. He is pretty cool headed and mature for his 20 years.  I think he will be fine with the stress.  He will probably thrive on overcoming it.  He's likely experienced some of it already living with my husband and I for 20 years! LOL I am disappointed we won't get to go to his graduation.  I have friends who have relayed how amazing it is.  

    I am excited to see how this changes him, and me.  And I'm especially excited to see him reach his goals.  The military has been plan B for him since he entered high school.  We always encouraged our kids to have a plan A (the dream future), plan B (what you do to get close to the dream if the dream falls apart), and plan C (what you do to get a job and support yourself if A and B don't work). College and an engineering degree was always plan A.  Well, lack of money and Covid made that nearly impossible and very impractical.  So plan B has commenced.  After 6 years in the Nuke program, he plans to go back to college and complete his degree.  But he also recognizes plans may change in 6 years.  At least plan C may not have to come into play...I really don't want him to become a cop in this day and societal climate.

    Anyway, glad to be here.  I'm a natural born planner, and addicted to information, so you all are a natural fit for me to get my racing mind calmed and questions answered as to what comes next.  Just the reassurance that "no news is good news" has been huge for me.  

    If I don't respond correctly or in the right place, forgive me.  I'm new to this type of communication.  Old dogs, you know.  

  • mom2blondies

    MamaBear, I was wondering about the May as well. So it is Feb. 25th? That is the week after my SR. When my kids were teens I tried to set up a 'family map' that showed where everyone was. My kids promptly told me they didn't care where I was, haha! The only one that signed into it was my oldest's girlfriend (they have been together since they were 15 and we basically took her in). My oldest told me if he bought a motorcycle he would join it...but never did either! It is a weird thing not knowing where they are. Between ROM and going back to GL I was freaking out a little because I didn't even know what state he was in. I'm not worried about the BC aspect either as my SR has done several  bootcamp style academies and has worked as a first responder (trying to keep details vague on purpose, sorry, the security rules are new to me and I can never figure out how much sharing is too much, haha!). He has thrived under that sort of pressure. Covid is the reason he quit his job as it messed up his schooling and advancement opportunities as a result. He didn't want to just sit around waiting for things to return to normal so moved onto his plan B as well and hoping to complete his degree. My mom is retired law enforcement as is my FIL (father in law). I can completely understand your reservations on that career path in today's climate! 

    AgnesB, not silly at all! When I talked to my SR last Sunday he was fresh out of ROM and sounded tired but ok and said that everything was going well. He wasn't his energetic self but I'm sure he was exhausted on top of bored and he really just wanted to get on with doing something physical which was starting the next day. I'm hoping he sounds more 'excited' on our next call...whenever that might be. 

    Shanny/AgnesB, it is interesting hearing about life in a small town. My SR was born raised in a large suburban area and part of what I'm so excited to talk with him about is the dynamic of those who come from different areas of the country and different lifestyles. We tend to think of our life as 'normal' but there are a lot of different 'normals' out there. 

  • partyofseven

      Hey Mama Bear,

    You are very welcome and yes you will fit in here very nicely with all of us. Lol 

    That made me smile about tracking them down if need be. I do the same if I have to. lol

    This is good to know and it's good for your son that he understands about the stress part of it. It will be great when you first hear from him to see how he is doing.

    There is plenty of information here that's for sure and it's good to keep that phrase in mind a lot "No News is Good News" as you will be saying it a lot!!  :)

    You did good and this is the right place. Have a good evening!!

  • Mamabear

    Good evening ladies! I have been reading posts but was busy with my sailors! They got to visit over the holidays from Guam. It was great having them home, even if it was for 2 weeks. They have gone to the East coast to finish out their leave. I am counting the days till they are done...240. I hope you all had good holidays. Party of seven, Phoenixmom, Lemon elephant, ellen0502, Chipmunk, Belovedbyhim...I hope you all are well. Welcome to all the new moms. This is the best place ever! They have seen me through 3 1/2 years. Have a great week moms.
  • partyofseven

    MamaBear- Hey, I was thinking about you and wondering about your trip. It sounds like you all had a good time. Wow they will be done done? Those days will go by fast. 

    Yes I did. Happy New Year to you and yours. So far so good. Hope you guys are to?

    You as well. Have a great week.  :)

  • mom2blondies

    Oh my goodness I was just so confused! There is a Mamabear and a Mama Bear.....ok, I'm back on track, haha! 

  • belovedbyHim

    Mama Bear -- PHEW!!!!! Feb 25 is much more reasonable!! Just over a Month to go!!

  • belovedbyHim

    Mama Bear-- I have good news and bad news.... Boot Camp is the only time you will know Exactly where they are and pretty much what they are doing!!! After this they will often be out of communication and unable to tell you anything about what they are doing!! Having an older child go to Boot Camp may be easier than those of us who had our kids go straight from High School. You are posting right and fine so no worries there and there is no Right way. This is a place for you to get information and share all the highs and lows. If you post his ship date (the date he left for Boot camp) I can give you a better idea of where he is in his training (Assuming no COVID and since you have NOT had a phone call you should be good there!) And we are Navy moms.... We are all a little Different!!

    mom2blondies-- If it happened in the past you can share, If it is going to happen in the future be vague. If it names individual Names or places be vague, if it is a job that many people can have you can share. Your post meets the OPSEC and PERSEC requirements. This is a training place for you. If you DO share something that is NOT OPSEC/PERSEC Someone from the team will let you know, You can then delete it using the “Invisible X” (Hover just to the right of your post even with your name and you should see your cursor change.... Click there and it should delete your post.) We realize that folks will make mistakes. This is the place to do that! It’s Boot Camp. You are not going to get anyone killed with a slip here so it’s safer to learn here than elsewhere on Social media. Just know if you get called out by one of us (or 10...) It’s not personal or for shaming or because we are mad, it’s to help you learn. (and we don’t always see each others posts first!)... Yes... Spacing matters!! (As do capitals!) We have Mama Bear, mamabear, Momma Bear, 4 variations on NavyMom... So many duplicates. It’s why I keep notes and even then I often miss stuff or mix it up!

  • partyofseven

    Good Morning ladies and welcome to our new moms,

    We had some moms join over the weekend we are glad you are here. 

    Ask any questions, no questions is ever dumb. Someone will answer. 

    Another day closer to PIR for some of our ladies.

    Prayers for calls and letters to come thru today.

  • partyofseven

    Lamentations 3:25

  • Chipmunk

    Good Morning Everyone!! Welcome to all of our new members and Hugs to those of you that have been with us as you are starting this BC Mom (and loved one ) journey!!

    I am going to need to play catch up and I have several things on the agenda for the day. So it will likely be later. 

    So, I have been busy with building a new group - my first so it is a work in progress.  Beyond BC .

    With all of the changes at BC this last year, we had a lot of moms stick around this group longer than they usually do and  we have gotten to know you more. Also those of us who have been here for a few years now tend to chat in this group and share things that are not as relevant to our new members.  

    So, I have 

    launched the Beyond BC mom and loved ones group. This is an open invitation to those of you who have enlisted or reservists, or been a part of mentoring and veterans on this group to come join us. 

    For our newbies - once you have your "I'm a sailor" call {although, they may not actually tell you that - mine didn't} - we encourage your to go to your profile page and change your sailor's status to Enlisted. At that point, feel free to come join us as well. 

  • Chipmunk

    I give credit to B'sNukeMom who helped me with the image for our new group! Thanks!!

  • warriorprotector

    Good morning Warrior moms! Wishing a blessed week for all and hope some phone calls were received this weekend! 

    For all the new moms: I just finished the book Be Safe, Love Mom: A Military Mom's Stories of Courage, Comfort, and Surviving Life on the Home Front  by Elaine Lowry Brye.  It has a lot of good insight, especially if you're new to the military life.

    I will now have two sons in the military (two different branches) and the hardest part by far is the long periods without communication, the not knowing where they are and if they are OK.  Our younger son decided not to go to the academy and enlisted right out of HS (we now know because of a girl).  Anyway, until this Nov we had not seen him for 3 years because of his geographic location, deployments and then Covid hit.  He was good about texts, emails and phone calls, but that is never enough is it?  

    My SR is our older son (23, but his birthday is tomorrow and he'll be 24!) and he chose to get his degree, enlist and will push to get into the Warrant Officer track. I thought it would be easier going through this separation again but it is definitely not easy...ever! At least with our younger son we got his BC graduation and we pinned his eagles after his A School graduation.  With our SR we will not have either honor.  I feel for our SR's because just as much as we want to hug them and celebrate, they want to show us how far they have come.  Look at me now mom!  I weep for them and us.

    Well meaning friends say the craziest things to me, but I know they just don't understand.  How could they?  It's important to find other military moms to maintain some sanity!  I personally try to really focus on my husband, daughter (still at home), and job.  Everyday my sons are on my mind and I pray for their safety.  I'm trying also to get some long overdue projects done that got put to the wayside while trying to help my sons navigate their way into adulthood.  I like what one mom said about Plan A, B and C.  That's what we've done with all our kids. 

    Anyway, didn't mean to get so long winded. Have a wonderful day and hugs to all!  18 days until PIR for my SR! 

  • warriorprotector

    Chipmunk:  I'm excited for the "next step" group you're starting, hope I'll be able to join on 1/29! :)  Great idea, great support! :)

  • partyofseven

    Phoenixmom- Good Morning.

    Anti M- Good Morning, hope your feeling better and your weekend was good.

    warriorprotector- Good Morning, I love that book. It is a really good book. 

    Happy Early Birthday to your son!!!

    I know, I feel that I pray extra hard for all of our new families since we don't have the PIR gradation at this time. It truly is a wonderful experience and one that I pray that the families will get to enjoy at some point.

    My friends will look at me like I'm an alien like they don't understand some of the things that I say about my son or how long it's been since I've seen him. 

    Me to I always have a plan a and then a plan b!!  :) That's how I raised my kids as well. 

    Have a great blessed day as well.

  • Missing my #1

    Thanks so much!!!! Happy birthday to your son.
  • NewMilmom

    Good Morning!

    Katherine - my heart cries at your "empty nest" soon. Big Hugs to you from 1 Momma to another Momma.  I haven't touched my sailors room either...he explicitly told me NOT to do anything to his room. So that is okay too (for now anyhow).

    NorthwoodsMom - 100% agree... It is was/is a huge grieving process for me as well.  

    belovedbyHim - loved the way your older neighbor saw it & sounds so much like something my Grandmother always said too.  Thanks for reminding me of that.  It means I can hold out hope that it gets better in time.  

    WoW! on keeping all the names straight.  That is another one of your super powers I'd say.  My brain is constantly fogged in & more like a giant sieve most days.

    Chipmunk - Thank You! Love the new group for those of us who survived boot camp which in my case was only by the support & acceptance shown to me by wonderful Navy Mom's in this wonderful caring group.  Plus lots of prayers, tears, & chanting to myself, "no news is good news" through out it all...okay, I'll be honest I still doing all 3 ..

    Welcome to all the new Moms & Dads starting this journey!  You have definitely found the Best place to be. This group of amazing women held me up, cried with me & supported me throughout the process.  I was blessed to find this group & they are the ones who understand when others can not since they have all gone through it themselves.  BNMH to each of you!!!

  • warriorprotector

    When my younger son left for the military we didn't realize how everything was going to work.  He and his older brother (my current SR) shared a room their whole life.  There was so much stuff!  My younger son asked for all his things about 6 month into being at his first station.  What a task, lots of tears.  

    My SR is very much a home body, to himself guy and has a small supportive friend group.  We talked and he agreed that going through all his things together and packing it up would help him mentally prepare to get started with his new life (and save mama some stress).  There were tears, but he was there to crack a joke and give me BIG hugs. Now everything is weeded out and sorted into labeled bins so he can ask for specific bins.  Most of his stuff he won't need for a few years.  It's all safe in his closet.  It ended up being a great event for us both. 

    With his blessing, since we live in a small house, we have freshened up the room for visiting family members.  Especially our two sons!  My younger son was the first in the spruced up room.  "Man, didn't realize how much stuff we had crammed in here!  It's so spacious now!"  LOL!

    My daughter and I are making a special art piece to go in the room from something we saw on line.  "Military Family, United by Love, Divided by Duty."  with a USN crest and USCG crest.  I'll post pics when we're done. 

    The point is that there is no right or wrong way to handle your child leaving for the military.  Each of us handles it differently and we truly do understand those differences. It's a process! :)

    I try to approach each day with Joy and share joy wherever I can!  Hugs Ladies! 

  • Shanny

    warriorprotector: this whole thing has been a learning experience..  everyone handles the process so differently. The day after I dropped him off,I was in his room collecting his laundry, opening windows, stripping the bedding. (But then again I had his girlfriend wanting his bedding like a psycho and I wanted everything that was still there cleaned so she wouldn’t try taking it).  I swear I think I scrubbed his room. I didn’t toss anything. I just cleaned it top to bottom. I guess in my head I was hoping he would come home after bootcamp for a while and I wanted him to come home to a clean space. I knew he wouldn’t but I needed that busy work. Plus I had the honor to tell the girlfriend no she couldn’t have his bedding and that I had washed everything and put it all away anyway. I’d probably still be fighting for that stuff!  

    BNMHs to you too!!!  I hope you are having an amazing day!

  • warriorprotector

    Shanny!!! You crack me up!  My DD and I did the same thing, actually washed the walls, hardwoods, windows, furniture etc.  We actually bought all new bedding.  It was time!  Then took out furniture that didn't need to be there and rearranged what was left.  All I'm going to say about the GF, OK???! Strange. As you may have gathered with my younger son, been there, done that! 

    Later! :)

  • Shanny

    warriorprotector:  the GF is now, thankfully, an ex. You weren’t here yet for that drama but the short version...  his last night home, she showed up bright and early and stayed until I kicked her out at 2:00 am. Like I had to actually tell her to leave. I didn’t spend any time at all with my son before he left and she was at my house the next morning before he was even awake and thought she was going to crawl into his bed. Nope. She took most of his clothes-sweatshirts, T-shirts, even underwear and socks. Like seriously took them. I didn’t know until I went to collect his dirty clothes and realized his closet was all but empty. She lasted until his first letter came. So what maybe 4 weeks?!? And after that she didn’t reply when I sent her messages that I had another letter for her. She never replied to his letters because she had already moved on with a new guy. But she tried to get me to pay for an engagement ring saying he told her I had access to his bank accounts and could pay for it. I said hell no. That’s the short version. 

  • Shanny

    RTC posted a couple pictures on their Facebook page. Looks like 074 and 075 on the flags. Then there is a flag from the 080’s but I can’t see the 3rd number. They are marching with masks on so not sure if you can tell who is who

  • belovedbyHim

    NewMilmom -- No Super power here... I Cheat! I have a spreadsheet that I put your username in Shipdate (if known), PIR date (If known), and notes that I think will be helpful to help you. That and seeing so many variations over the years of the same name because we are all Navy moms and focused on them at the time we join.
  • belovedbyHim

    Shanny-- How did I miss about the ring? AWE He double hockey sticks!! NO Way! Was she that craven to believe she could pull that kind of a stunt?!!
    You were being far too kind to her the other day!!
    The Crazy is strong in that one!! If your Sailor is ever down about her remind him that she couldn't last 4 weeks!! That's nothing in the Navy life!
  • DoriBry

    Shanny-The other 2 divisions in the pics are 085 and 089.  My SR is in 086 so I find myself zooming in and squinting a lot when pics are posted.  RTC on instagram posts some also and usually its an individual.  No luck with a pic of my son but some have been of an SR that is on the same ship.  

  • partyofseven

    DoriBry-  Hey,

    we are counting down the days. It won't be long now. 

    Your getting close with the pics of some of them being on the same ship. Hopefully you will see a pic soon. 

    Thanks for the update ladies!!

  • warriorprotector

    Shanny: Yikes, the crazy is very strong with that one! Whew your son got lucky. My younger one unfortunately married the crazy, I can tell you stories that will make your hair fall out!  I cry often over that whole situation, forever changed our family dynamic and the hurt is deep. Anyway, on a good note my younger son did re-enlist for 6 more years today.  Got to focus on the good.  Thankful your son got away!

    DoriBry:  Always searching the photos and squinting.  Mine is 6'3" but there are a lot tall men in those groups!  My hubby will look at them and say "look, that could be him he stands like that!"  Me just rolling my eyes! :)

  • Shanny

    BelovedbyHim:  she was a piece of work. I couldn’t figure that one out!  She thought I was going to pay for a ring?  I thought when I posted it here the Navy Mom Posse was going to ride that day!   When I told hi about it after he got out he about lost his mind. He knows I would never. He told me to guy a trickle charger for his truck and I printed a picture of it showing the cost and where I got it and sent it to him. For something that was $22. Lol I wasn’t buying an engagement ring. The guy she cheated with looks like he is about 32. She is 18. Someone posted a picture and tagged her in it. That’s how I knew but I couldn’t tell him while he was at BC. 

  • Shanny

    Warriorprotector:  I told him after her that he must know the chic at least a year before he could think about marrying anyone. He probably won’t listen but I can always hope. 
    I only had a taste of  the crazy. I am sorry you have to deal with it. My ex was an abusive, control freak. So I saw the signs in this chic. But he wouldn’t listen. 

  • belovedbyHim

    Shanny-- you probably did but I have slept since then so.....
    Yea, as much as I want grand kids The crazy isn't worth the heart ache!  My DD has enough of her own crazy for our family!! I'll be content to wait for the boys to find a real relationship when they are ready.  There is a young lady that my youngest has been friends with since high school that I wouldn't mind if something developed there but neither will admit what the rest of us see, so we wait and leave it.

  • belovedbyHim

    *** THE MAKING OF A MILITARY MOM ***
    When the good Lord was creating mothers, he was into his fifth day of overtime.
    An angel appeared and said, “You’re having a lot of trouble with this one. Why not use the standard model?”
    And the Lord replied, “Have you seen the specifications on this order? Give birth to a child that will become one of my warriors; instill values of duty, honor, and country into them from birth while teaching them to be compassionate and loving; safeguard this treasure through flu, sickness, cuts and scrapes knowing that she can’t be with them when country calls; embrace them but let go of her precious gift to perfect strangers; brighten their day when all seems confused not knowing the pain they are enduring; have the patience of a saint when waiting for them to return home; and have two sets of shoulders to handle the weight of both love and uncertainty.”
    The angel shrugged slowly looking down and said, “two sets of shoulders… no way!”
    And the Lord answered, ”Don’t worry, we’ll make other military mothers to help carry the burden. Besides it’s not the shoulders that are causing the problem, it’s the heart. It must swell with pride, sustain the ache of separation, beat on steadily when it’s too worried to do so and be large enough to say, “I Understand” when it doesn’t.
    “Lord,” said the angel, touching his sleeve gently. “Come to bed… finish this tomorrow!”
    “I can’t,” said the Lord. ”I’m so close to creating something special and unique. Already I have one who heals herself from within; can send joy a thousand miles away in just a small box; able to cheer them up with one phone call and can wave good-bye from a pier, a car or off a runway and understand that it is important to her country that they leave.”
    The angel circled the model of the military mother very slowly. “It’s too soft,” she sighed.
    “But tough,” said the Lord excitedly. “You cannot imagine what this woman can do or endure.”
    “Can it think?”
    “Can it think? It can home school if need be”
    Finally, the angel bent over and ran her finger across the cheek. “There’s a leak,” she pronounced. “I told you that you were trying to put too much into this model.”
    “It’s not a leak,” said the Lord. “It’s a tear.”
    “What’s it for?” asked the angel.
    “It’s for joy. Sadness. Disappointment. Pain, loneliness and pride!”
    “You are a genius,” sighed the angel.
    The Lord looked somber and replied, “I didn’t put it there."
    Author Unknown ***
  • belovedbyHim

    Sorry.... I forgot the tissue warning!!
  • NewMilmom

    belovedbyHim - Mega tears!!!  oh my... I should have read that after I got home...that was beautiful.  Thank you for sharing.

  • DoriBry

    belovedbyHim-loved that.  Thank you 

  • Mama Bear

    Good Evening!

    belovedbyHim My SR shipped on Dec. 15.  That's why I guessed his PIR date would be Feb. 25 with the 2 weeks of ROM.  Is that correct?

  • belovedbyHim

    Mama Bear -- Yep. This is assuming that the holidays are not going to add a week. But by my counting Feb 24 is right on.  Dec 29 Should have been P1 and  1/5 should have been the end of P days.  Look for the Form letter around the end of this week if the PO is back to working!

  • Chipmunk

    Good Evening Everyone!!! 

    I caught up on the posts, but I know there are lots of new members that I have not reached out to personally and welcomed!! We are so glad you have joined us here. We all have busy lives so we all do what we can to help out here to make sure you all are receiving the encouragement and information that you need. It is so good to read all the posts. 

    Warriorprotector, DoriBry and others we are looking forward to you joining us in the Beyond BC group when your time comes!!

  • mom2blondies

    Shanny....oh my!! She sure does sound.....'special'! I've been pretty lucky on that front. My SR did have a crazy one when he was 15 in high school, she went to his school. My DIL found her twitter page and told me I should take a look at it. Oh no...no...NO! Found out she was 18 and had quite a sordid past....oh and the lies!! I went into my SR room, sat on his bed and said, "So I found her twitter." His head dropped. I asked him if he thought he might be in a little over his head with this and he said he was but didn't know how to get out of it. That girl even tried the crying to me to help her fix it. As angry as I was I did the 'good mom' thing and explained that when trust is broken sometimes it cannot be repaired so the important thing is to learn from it so we don't repeat it with the next relationship.......the mamma bear in me wanted to lay into that girl though! 

    SR was able to call home again today!! I was not expecting a call just a week after the last one. I've been prepared to not hear from him at all and now 2 calls already! I was at work and actually had a client on the phone when my phone started ringing. I saw the 847 and told my client I needed to put them on hold and my co-worker would help them. First words were, "Are you ok?" and he was like, "Yeah, we just got another phone time for some reason." Next words were, "Did you pass your float test?" which he did but said he got yelled at for sinking and was basically treading water laying as flat as he could. He said they are working well together and he is a .....oh man....maybe he said 'section leader'?? Is that a thing? He said they've gotten in trouble twice and gotten extra PT which he said wasn't even hard, he sounded a little more peppy today than he did last week. Sadly the call dropped and I was waiting for him to call back but for some reason it went to voicemail and he left a message that broke my heart, "Hi mom, I guess you got busy. I'll talk to you again when we get phone time again. I love you." I spent the rest of the day trying not to beat myself up for not being able to answer and him thinking I was too busy for him.....never will I ever be too busy for him!!! That is all I wanted to him to know! But then I started talking myself into being happy that I got to talk to him and know that he is doing well makes me feel better and he knows I love him even if I didn't get the chance to tell him today. Oh boy....this ride just keeps on going doesn't it??!! 

  • belovedbyHim

    mom2blondies -- Yeah!!! Phone calls are the BEST!!!! BOO The phone's are old and need to be replaced!!! I'm so sorry your call was dropped.  I'm guessing you wrote him right away to let him know that you were there and not too busy but the call didn't come through.  You may want to consider changing your voice mail to include a message for your sailor just in case you miss them in the future.  That goes for ALL our Boot Camp moms.  You don't want to miss the call but at least you can let your sailor know you are proud of them and love them!  (On a plus note you get to listen to his voice any time you want!!)

  • mom2blondies

    belovedbyHim- Oh my gosh!!! I totally forgot I DID record my voicemail message for him to hear if I missed his call so he DID hear me tell him I love him today!!! Why such little things seem so big is part of this journey I suppose...major Navy mom allergy attack right now realizing this! Thank you! And yes, I wrote him as soon as I got home from work and it is going in the mail tomorrow.....how did you know??? Haha! And I have already listened to that very short but sweet message again, "Hi mom, I guess you got busy. I love you. I'll talk to you the next time we get to call. I love you." 

  • belovedbyHim

    mom2blondies-- It's the Navy Mom Spy Network!! We have our ways of gaining information!!! BWMHAHAHAHAHA!!! (Sinister laugh devolving into hysterical laughter!) Really I just know what I would have done in your place!  {{{{{BNMH}}}}}} You'll make it!! That may have been the last call until they finish but you can still write and always Pray!! (and hope I'm wrong!! I do!)

  • Chipmunk

    Mom2blondies - Yeah!!! A phone call!! Yeah he passed the swim test. They yell at them but the main thing is they want them to be able to float and if he can figure out how to do it, that is great! Yes, an emotional roller coaster ride. I don't know that my kids have totally gotten the understanding of why I will always answer my sailor's calls no matter what, but when they call, I sometimes am not as eager to talk to them because I am busy. 

    Remind your son that sometimes if a call is dropped and you call back too soon the phones have not had a chance to reset and they go straight to voicemail. That happens to us a lot.  Also, my son knew to call his Dad or any of his other siblings if I didn't answer the phone. Especially at BC because they just want to talk as much as you want to hear them. (at least most of them do.) 

  • partyofseven

    Good Morning ladies and welcome to all of our new moms,

    We are glad you are here. No question is never dumb and someone will answer you!! 

    Keep those phones on you at all times and those ringers on loud. You want to answer every call.

    Another day closer to PIR. Whoo Hoo

    mom2blondies- Yay for phone calls that is awesome!!! They are the best!!! I am so glad he called again!!!

    Leaving a voicemail for them to hear is another thing we recommend. See that's another blessing for you!! It is the little things and that is great!! You will have a smile on your face all day today!!

    MammaBear- Good Morning, it's good to see you. Have a wonderful day!!!

    Anti M- Good Morning. How's the kitties doing?

    Good Morning to the rest of you beautiful ladies out there. God Bless and have a great day!!!