Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

**BEGINNING OCTOBER 5, 2023, RECRUIT GRADUATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY THURSDAY (NO LONGER ON FRIDAY), EXCEPT FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, WHEN GRADUATION IS ON WEDNESDAY.

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  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Be sure to join your PIR group.  Here are the links:

    PIR SEPTEMBER 2022

    PIR AUGUST 2022

  • tgcunny

    Hi Q’s Momma! We use Sandboxx alot and love it. In the letter from you, your SR will get paper to write you back and a prepaid envelope also. Your name and address will already be on it as well, all your SR will have to do is write the letter and pop it in the envelope. Cool that we can track it also! 

  • 1StepForward

    Q's Momma Praying your mail carrier put in a request to bump your street up on the delivery time. Working from home sucks, I must look like the crazy lady staring out her window.
  • 1StepForward

    Our first Sandboxx came today! And 3-1/2 hours early to boot! Six pages of positive, yet honest tear jerking day by day reports. Still shocked over the first sentence: "I forgot how mail works". Whaaaaat? I failed royally. LOL
  • Chipmunk

    Good Evening everyone!! 

    I am so glad that some of you got mail and thanks for replying to each other. I did not know about Sandboxx so I don't have any experience with the nitty gritty of how it works, tgcunny, thanks for the info. 

    Q's Momma - I am so happy for you!! I was wondering if you had received any mail yet. 

    1StepForward - WoW - Six pages!! My son's letters almost all started with "I only have ten minutes to write!" 

    CBMom - I am glad that going to his room and laying on his bed brings you some comfort and peace. My mother told me years ago, when my husband was at Reserve Camp, - Keep in mind that you have friends and family around to support you and he has no one and is out working in the heat. - It helped me change my perspective and kept me working more towards thinking about him. 

  • 1StepForward

    Chipmunk - excellent advise you shared with CBMom. Thank you for that perspective. To be fair, my son isn't a writer either but he's our #2/middle child and saw the hell #1 in college put us through. Because of that, we made him wait and debate well over a year before signing up. Then another year until graduation before shipping out. The past year of his recruiters training helped, so he takes a few spare minutes each day from study to write. Apparently I've been a hot mess longer than I thought.
  • 1StepForward

    Hey. You said "letters"? I got one total, for all his days gone. I thought for sure the love was gone. Lol I did real mail, Hub, Sandboxx. Today I signed up for Sandboxx, as well. Sold on Tracking. Yep, they should've opened with that!
  • CBMom

    Thank you Chipmunk for that grounding perspective. Such a good point I read your message to my hubby too. I’m sure it’s tons harder for our SRs.

    1StepForward- I’m so jealous! 6 pages! I’m still waiting on our 1st personal letter after the form letter. I hope he writes some detail as he hates to write. And don’t feel bad - I bet none of our kids know how to send mail- they can text like nobody’s business and all can type on computers like the best secretaries in the world but they haven’t done much with letter writing so they don’t remember. At least it’s easy to learn. Mine asked me where things went the day before he left lol. 

    Tcgunny- I use Sandboxx too - once a week and I try to keep it vague. I use it mostly to send him Bible verses every day. I hope they are getting through to him. I didn’t like though how it limits  you to only one picture so I contacted them about it. Did you know you can just use a free collage app and send a collage? Total Game Changer!!!

  • 1StepForward

    True. But do they know where studying hard too? I laughed every time he explained something I actually knew. He'd be better off working on penmanship than explaining. I can google like the best! Forgot to mention, he's the education PO, no-one wants to learn, so he's relatively jobless and the kids stay up late talking. No books, I'm his sleepless boredom fallback. If yours is limited, take that as he's super focused and dedicated. Hearing several are getting pushed back or seperated.
    Collage?! Get out! Win win!
  • CBMom

    1StepForward-Hahahaha!!! That made me smile thinking of them staying up talking like a big sleepover when they were 12…although they should be sleeping or studying. I’m sad to hear some being pushed back or separated. That’s funny that he’s explaining everything to you; mine will probably do that too!! Yes on the collage! I downloaded “photo collage app” (free) and made one in less than 5 minutes. Uploaded it into my letter-looks fabulous!  5 pics in one. 

  • Chipmunk

    Having that same perspective with my son that my mother taught me with my husband, helped me a lot with my BC time. I also did not know about this site, so I was not comparing my experience, or # of letters with anyone else's. My husband found a timeline elsewhere online and that helped me at least feel connected with something my son was doing, until a phone call and I found out the timeline did not match up to his!! LOL

    Finding this stie 5 years ago and hanging out with these ladies and hearing their stories, I have learned that we all handle this emotional roller coaster ride differently, but that doesn't make one way right or wrong, it just means we are different, and that is okay. The main thing, is are we learning to move forward, are we learning and growing as well? Are we becoming connected with community and others that understand our situation whether in a local group such as Blue Star Mothers, or online? But then are we also recognizing that we are entering into a new season of our lives and becoming the encourager and not always the provider for our children. 

     

  • 1StepForward

    Rollercoaster is a perfect analogy! Some days I've got this, others a drown rat in a pool of my own tears. Out of all the options for a child to grow up and move on, this is by far the best. We learn to let go of control, eventually. They get a guided tour of their future instead of winging it. I'm probably saying this more to myself as an opportunity to ride the pride train. I'm on the platform, waiting in line to board. Seeing others hopes and accomplishments is helping me see the bigger picture. I'm immensely grateful to you all!
  • belovedbyHim

    Ladies -- I am so delighted that you are getting letters!! That's AWESOME.  One small tip I'd like to share, While we may know more than they do, let them tell you! I made the mistake of writing about all that I'd learned and what he would be doing in the upcoming week.  He did say during one phone call that he wondered why he should write when it seemed I already knew more than he did!  He felt that he just didn't have anything to tell me.  (And his time was limited and he was NOT fond of writing at all)  I'm not saying don't share but I am saying you know your SR best, determine what to share or not share of what all you learn.  We have a wealth of Info that they don't and we have each other to ask.  They are limited on talking time!

  • CBMom

    Chipmunk - Very good point! I always tell myself the main job of raising kids is to teach them to eventually let go and stand/fly on their own. Even though this is so hard it is a rite of passage and a good thing, a thing to celebrate, even though it’s hard to let go of our baby girls/boys. Some kids are completely lost at this time so I’m thankful he’s picking a direction and trying it.

    And I totally agree 1StepForward! You said it so eloquently - a guided tour instead of winging it. This is a faster route to flying than most, and I believe a very brave one, but very specific with goals, training, and guidance/supervision ahead. 

    Chipmunk - Glad you mentioned BlueStar moms. I joined them before I knew about this and Im so grateful to have both available to me though I haven’t done anything yet with BS. I appreciate your and BelovedbyHim and all the seasoned moms comments so much - and helping us even though you didn’t have this option is so appreciated! I knew a year ago when he signed on I was going to have to find some support - I know no one personally going through this - and I’m so glad it’s out here!

  • Chipmunk

    BelovedbyHim - That is a good point about not telling your SR everything you know or have learned. 

    CBMom - This site has been around for a while, well before my son went to BC, I just did not know about it. The recruiters only told me about the RTC website and that was my go-to, even as they were revamping the site somewhat. 

    I have to admit, I dealt with my son's decision and leaving for BC much differently than most everyone that I meet here, which is why I gratefully appreciate BelovedbyHim, and others that share their experiences with you all as well. 

  • 1StepForward

    Nothing but agreement with everything said. I only mentioned the train as my ultimate goal. Without all of you, I wouldn't have had the strength to stand on the platform. I'd still be at home procrastinating buying that ticket. ~The debating Libra
  • CBMom

    Haha 1StepForward- Thus Libra agrees!!! 

  • 1StepForward

    Holy cow! Bursting aha moment! My son will be a 1st time flag carrier at Q's Mommas sons ceremony! I'll be watching the live stream but thinking of you also.
  • partyofseven

    so it is with Christ’s body. We are many parts of one body, and we all belong to each other.

     

    Romans 12:5 (NLT) Read Full Chapter
  • partyofseven

    Good Morning Ladies,

    Whoo Hoo I love it when mail comes. Glad to hear that your loved ones are doing well and are adjusting. It does take a bit and as for the divisions getting it together that can take a while to. Before they all learn that hey we need to get along or we will continue to get into trouble!!

    1StepForward, CBMom, Q'sMomma that is awesome that you ladies have or are getting letters.

    I'm trying to catch up. Lol 

    Everything that you ladies were talking about and how you are feeling is so normal. This is a different roller coaster that we are on more than most people experience. I always say if you have to cry then cry, yell what ever you need to do. It really does help. 

    And yes they are told in boot camp not to listen to us. I just listen when my son is talking and act like I don't know anything. Lol But then I come and post on here if I have a question about something and you get your answer on here as well. Lol

    It's great to see everyone posting and talking. It's good to have support from everyone.

    I am doing good, I try to do my home work so on Sunday's I am free. 

    thanks for asking about me CBMom- I appreciate it.

    God Bless and have a great Sonday ladies!!!

  • MomofJoseph

    1StepForward - I wanted to comment about div/ship splitting up after BC.  My son only had 3 Nukes in his division; they graduated at Thanksgiving.  Two of them went to GC at the end of November; one got held back because of medical.  They got 2 weeks leave at Christmas, but just before Joseph was supposed to go back to GC, he got Covid.  He was delayed returning 3 days, which meant he didn't class up with his buddy.  The one who got held back finally made it to GC mid-January, which was too late to class up with Joseph.  So the three Nukes ended up being in three different A school classes!  But, they are at GC together and get to see each other during free time.

  • 1StepForward

    MomofJoseph - What a bummer! Thank you for this, super eye opening. I do worry about him making friends still. He's very likeable but because of his "job" and no one wanting to listen, I feel he'll keep some distance. Not sure where he gets his eyes on the prize attitude. Sure didn't show it at home.
  • Shanny

    1StepForward:  the recruits do learn to rely on each other. My son was one of the rule followers because joining has been a lifelong goal. He had always been about having fun before he went in but a hard worker-worked two jobs his Junior and senior years of high school one as a landscaper and one as a sound engineer for a radio station. But he got to BC and wanted to do things right. But also kept his head down and tried to not be noticed too much. He had the added bonus of 2 week quarantine before he could start BC. He made friends while they were quarantined to hotel rooms by yelling back and forth down the hallways. His roommate from quarantine went to to A School In Mississippi. Not sure where he ended up stationed but they still text and talk weekly. His closest friend from BC is now his roommate in an apartment in VA. He has others he still hangs out with that ended up in VA but different bases or different ships. They find their place. And if it’s not in BC, it’s A School. (His a school roommate ended up at the same duty station as him and brought him food when he was quarantined due to COVID exposure). They will find their people. The ones taking is seriously tend to stick together to motivate the ones who aren’t as hardcore. 

  • tammybikerunfaithlove

    Hi all

    So glad to hear so many are getting letters! And I'm right there with all of you on the roller coaster ride. There are days I'm fine and then BAM ... I'm missing my boy like crazy. It's been 3 weeks since we said goodbye at the hotel... BUT... we got our first call Saturday night. It was sooo good to hear his voice. Like his first letter (that we got Friday) he was really upbeat - said overall it's about what he expected. He enjoys some parts of it. Said his division gets a lot of IT becuase some are having a hard time doing what they are told, talking too much, difficulty marching...etc.  He doesn't mind the extra working out. And he said he's gained 15 lbs since arriving! (He's 6 feet - went in at 150 so this is good for him - guessing he's gaining some muscle!)   Was just so nice to talk with him. Because of this group, I even had lots to ask him to make sure he shared as much as time would allow. I was amazed we talked for almost 40 minutes!  

  • 1StepForward

    Shanny- Thank you! Silver linings are the best.
  • Shanny

    I am so excited for all of you!  This is such a hard yet rewarding road to travel for all of you and your recruits. I remember the day I saw I had a letter coming and I went to mailbox 3 times to check. Then I got the letter and opened it really fast and it said, “Not sure if you could read my address. Here it is again”.  Little did he know, I had called his recruiter for help because I couldn’t read his address. The post office had stamped over part of it. And the recruiter had me take a picture of it and text it to him. Then he sat around the office and passed it around to all the other recruiters trying to read it. Then he he called me and said “Ma’am, his handwriting has not improved yet but we all agree it’s ship 10 Division 357. Here is the rest of the address we looked it up for you!”  Sometimes, these little memories are the best!  (I also posted it here and had the mommas trying to read it too. And the Mavy Mom Posse was formed…

  • Shanny

    “Navy Mom Posse” that was supposed to say

  • 1StepForward

    Tammyrunbikefaithlove - Great news! Congratulations, dual surprises!
  • CBMom

    Tammyrunbikelovefaith- 40 min?!!! Woohoo! I hope I get that in a few weeks!

  • belovedbyHim

    1StepForward -- That's AWESOME!!  One of the perks of 900 Div is you can likely see your SR in the weeks leading up to your PIR week!! (Usually the 2 weeks before but can be more)

    Shanny -- And then there are those like my kid!  He was stubborn and more introverted than in school and tended to keep to himself till the last few months of his assignment.  Then he'd open up and make a friend or 5 just in time for them to all leave (Or he'd leave).  He'd try and keep in touch for a bit but then life!  He has finally caught the vision at his last 2 assignments.  He made some good friends at his battalion and they have really kept in touch and then at his current assignment he made some friends right away and has really been happier than he was at his first 3 assignments.  (And he really came to love Italy and CA!)
    Navy Mom Posse is always ready and is open to find more lost puppies should the need arise!

    tammybikerunfaithlove -- That doesn't really go away.  Sorry.  The good news is MOST of the time you can pick up a phone or send an email and you'll get a reply quicker than BC but there are still times... BAM!  That's where having a group here that you have connected with is helpful (Or on one of the FB Pages...) You can vent and they get it.  Those "See Ya Laters" Just always suck no matter how long it's been!!  A 40 min Phone call is AWESOME!! I'm glad you were able to ask all your questions and get him to share.

  • Chipmunk

    WooHoo - Phone calls, Letters!! It is good to read the chatter. I will be busy again tomorrow but feel free to post and someone will share. 

  • Chipmunk

    I thought I would post the link to this blog over here, since I noticed one of the BC Moms had "liked" it. There should be a link to it in our Letter writing page up in the upper right (be sure to click all - and check out that information.) But here it is - 

    BC letters and questionnaires - Navy For Moms (ning.com)

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Be sure to join your PIR group.  Here are the links - I have the October group up now too:

    PIR OCTOBER 22

    PIR SEPTEMBER 2022

    PIR AUGUST 2022

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

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  • MomofJoseph

    1StepForward - I laughed when I read, "Not sure where he gets his eyes on the prize attitude. Sure didn't show it at home."  That is EXACTLY what I think about my son.  The kid who said, "Mom, why are you on me about my grades?  As long as I get all D's, I will graduate high school." (face palm) is now calling and saying, "Mom, please pray for my test tomorrow.  I want to keep my GPA up."  I'm thinking, "Who is this kid?"  But I'm REALLY happy about the change!  :-)

  • Chipmunk

    MomofJoseph - The passing standard I think is a little higher than a D, I believe. Not to mention, if they don't score higher, they might have remediation, and no one really likes extra study time!!

  • 1StepForward

    Question: I understood recruits aren't allowed care packages. My son is requesting Sudoku and pencils for any "holiday" free time. I don't want to oblige and cause him any problems.
  • Shanny

    1StepForward:  you can tear a few pages out and put them in with your letters. But be careful with the ink on the pages. Make sure it doesn’t rub off. Don’t send a whole book at once…. As for a pencil, I don’t know how you could send one in a letter without being noticed. He could just use the pen he has for writing letters. 

  • AgnesB

    1StepForward - I agree with Shanny. Our sailor was in BC for Thanksgiving & Christmas holidays and there was no care packages allowed.  If the ink looks like it might rub off you could try to photocopy. 

  • MomofJoseph

    Chipmunk - YES, the passing standard is definitely higher than a D!  I'm just amazed that my kid whose goal was D in high school is now striving for an excellent GPA in Nuke school!  (He has matured a lot in the last year!)

  • 1StepForward

    Thats great! I don't care what you think, who you your daddy is. The only way to excel is prove it!!!
    Thank you everyone for the great ideas.
  • tgcunny

    It's Battle Stations week for my SR, I am going to be a mess until I heard from him. I also got a letter from him today saying he qualified as expert marksman and got the best score in his division so he is now the Recruit Weapons Petty Officer! So exciting!! 

  • Chipmunk

    tgcunny - congratulations to your son!

  • CBMom

    Tcgcunny- wohoo congratulations! 

  • 1StepForward

    Tgcunny - Amazing, congratulations!
  • belovedbyHim

    MomofJoseph -- Plus the lower they are they may also get IT to adjust their mindset!!

    1StepForward -- Start adding one or 5 to every letter.  That way it's easy to store but won't be contraband.  Honestly the fact that he thinks he'll have down time is sweet.  They only have 1 holiday and depending on where in training they are they may spend most of that time studying.  Is that what he did for relaxation before he left?  DO NOT Send NEWSPRINT!!! It will rub off.  He's SOL on the Pencil.  There is no way to send that without him getting caught and it's just not worth it!  You can print them off on plain paper and he can use a pen to work it out.

    tgcunny -- Congratulations on the Expert Marksmanship and the PO Promotion (at RTC).  I can't wait to hear that you have a Sailor!! This means you are only 3 weeks out from PIR!! Are you able to go??

  • 1StepForward

    BelovedbyHim - I ended up copying 6 extreme decadoku (12x12 0-9,a,b,c) to a page. That withbpen should shut him up. LOL, That's exactly what I told him about the pencil. Yes, if he ran out of books. He had already memorized the manual & exceeded grad requirements for the tests taken. To his defense, he started preparing 18 months in advance with his recruiter, an enlisted group running a weighted 14 miles a day or 2-hour health club, plus baseball and recruits stay up late talking, are keeping him awake. He's an odd one.
  • partyofseven

    My heart has heard you say, “Come and talk with me.” And my heart responds, “LORD, I am coming.” Psalm 27:8 NLT

  • partyofseven

    Good Morning Ladies. Welcome to any of our new members we are glad that you are here.

    1StepForward- Hey, That is awesome that he wants to be so prepared and what great skills to have later on yes.  :) I sent mine two or three photos 4x6 and he wanted more. Lol

    MomofJoseph- That's awesome!! It's so great to see them change and mature along the way!!!  :)

    tcgunny- Whoo Hoo that is awesome!!! Let us know when you do hear. Prayers for them all to finish strong!!!

    CBMom- Hey and how are you doing today? 

    Staying busy is key and keep your phone on you at all times and that ringer on loud. You just never know when a call will come thru.

    Happy Taco Tuesday!!! 

  • Chipmunk

    Good morning, Party and everyone else!!

    What are you goals for today? Are you working on any projects? Anyone made a Blue Candle or a decoration for inside your motel room. If so, be sure to post them in the discussion up above Blue Candle, so we can have them to share with future BC Mom / loved one members. 

    1StepForward - Your "odd" one is exactly why he was selected for his rate. I can see why he wants the puzzles to help him keep his mind calculating and engaged!!

    Well, my washing machine is singing its happy song and I still have clothes left in the dryer!! - It was a busy day yesterday.