Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

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  • Athenasbow

    This Mom is bursting with pride and relief! I got a call from my Sailor yesterday and we talked for about 40 minutes. He sounded so good. He's kicked a$$ on all his tests and is on track for PIR next week. I can't wait to see him and give him a giant HUG. The past 9 weeks have been a rough ride (for both of us), but we've made it. I thank God for my resilient, driven, compassionate, and kind son. He is a light in my life and an example of unflagging determination and faith. 

    Thank you for your clear headed advice and counsel! I read through these comments when I felt lost, anxious, and at my wit's end, and I found solace, hope, and some laughs. I appreciate your generosity!

    All the best to your sons and daughters, and to you, Navy Moms. 

  • belovedbyHim

    1StepForward -- Oh Dear... What did I say? 

  • belovedbyHim

    WHOOP
    WHOOP
    WHOOP 
    ATTENTION ON DECK!! WE HAVE A SAILOR!!!
    JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING Athenasbow's SR ON A JOB WELL DONE!!!! BRAVO ZULU!!!!

  • CBMom

    CONGRATULATIONS Athenasbow!!! Hoping we are having similar joys in a few weeks;) Enjoy the moments next week!!!!

  • 1StepForward

    Athenasbow - Congratulations to you both! Best of luck on your Sailors next adventure!
    belovedbyHim - Just your encouragement to Laura brought me back to my beginning here and was able to take my first breath in days. So? I'm a sentimental sap.
  • Chipmunk

    Good Evening!!/ Morning by the time some of you read this. I won't be on a lot, but I will try to read and keep up.

    Laura - I am so glad you found your way to our conversation. Your address will come in the form letter, which should arrive in 2-3 weeks. Occasionally, you will receive a call from your SR before you receive your form letter. If so, be sure to ask him what his Ship # & Div # is. If you get that information, we can help you with the address and we can also give you the link to the security form which is also available on the RTC Bootcamp website

    Athenasbow!!! - Congratulations to your son!!! Thank you so much for sharing and letting us know that you have been following along. 

    Just a reminder - for those of you that Have a new sailor that has passed Battle Stations or you have been to PIR - be sure to come join us in the Beyond BC  group. It is a group to allow you to stay connected to others with sailors all over, they are the ones that come and help answer your questions, and will continue to support each other through our Navy journey. 

  • belovedbyHim

    1StepForward -- Ahhhh... Got it! I was worried I'd upset you for something I said.  Yes. I remember well how lost I was and how kind the ladies here were to me!  I was gone from here for a few years after my sailor completed BC but came back when I saw a mom post and you could just hear the tears in her post.  She sounded as lost as I had been and yet also proud and just... All of it.  I felt compelled to answer and I have just stuck around since because they just kept coming and then.... Covid and ... Well I couldn't leave those poor moms!!!  So here I am.  Trying to encourage you to put on your big girl panties and KNOW that it will be ok No matter what but yet knowing that you are hurting and missing your baby and trying to adjust to a new life that even if you knew it was coming, still left you feeling unprepared!!  If I can offer a kind word instead of a harsh reminder... I'll always choose the kind word.  I do try and share some realities as well but I don't want to scare you all either! So some of my posts may use more words just to clarify the tone and meaning so it's a little easier to deal with.

  • tammybikerunfaithlove

    belovedbyHim - are you referring to contact during bootcamp? Or even after bootcamp? They know not to even try to connect during BC. They wrote each other letters prior to heading to GL so that when they missed each other, they'd have letters to read. 

    Athenasbow - WOOOHOO! Congrats to your sailor! That's exciting news! 

    Happy Friday Ladies!  I have a letter coming from my SR today - so excited!!! 

  • tgcunny

    Happy Friday! I have two letters coming today AND I believe he did BS last night! Hopefully I’ll get that call this afternoon! 

  • CBMom

    BelovedbyHim - We’ll we are so thankful you came back!!! I honestly talk about this group every day and how supported I feel. It’s like we are all on a ship together taking a journey:) Ok maybe multiple ships but going to the same place - since some are ahead and some are behind. Journeys are always easier with other people. 

    tgcunny - I can’t wait to hear about your SR and BS!!!! Sailor coming! 

    Tammybikerunlovefaith- Those are some remarkable kids - writing letters to each other beforehand. I hope they can figure it out - sounds like they really care for each other.

    1StepForward - I felt same reading Belovedbyhim’s remarks to Laura. Good to be reminded of what we’ve been through so far. I realize I’ve also been holding my breath during this Great Silence time. It’s terrible- I just want to hear his voice so badly. 

    Laura - You are one of us now. You might be on your own ship but we are all nearby and traveling together. Best to talk to everyone when you are feeling lonely or need some support. We are all here;)

  • Chipmunk

    Good Morning Everyone!!

    Those of us that have been around for awhile, enjoy reading your posts and encouraging you all as well. I am also thankful for BelovedbyHim - her story reaches out to a lot more of you than mine does, so I am always happy when she shares. 

    tgcunny - waiting in anticipation with you as well. 

  • CBMom

    Chipmunk- you are a lifesaver ring are you kidding me! You were the first one to reach out to me. I’m so thankful!! Sorry I did not include you on my last post. 

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

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    Happy Friday - I've got my RED on!

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Be sure to join your PIR group.  Here are the links:

    PIR OCTOBER 22

    PIR SEPTEMBER 2022

    PIR AUGUST 2022

  • Chipmunk

    CBMom - No offense taken. I was referring to my story because I am one of those few, that did not shed tears, I think I got a little teary eyed when talking to my sister, but that was partially because I had lost my mother earlier in the year and could no longer call her. My story is just not as dramatic as others. I did look at it like him going to college (almost) because I knew that he had almost 2 years of schooling before going out to sea. Now that I am five years into this journey, have a sailor DIL now, and my youngest who still yearns for his brother to be back home, knowing my sailor, laments a little not being able to return home - his wife reenlisted and hopes to continue - I no longer look at it the same way as when he went to BC. 

    But I do my best to help reach out to the new moms and connect with all of you. I love the ship analogy and that is sort of how we all work with this group, with the Beyond BC group that I started over a year ago and just in general on this site. We all have our journey, but we are all connected to the larger whole. 

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Today's PIR happening now.  Here's the link:

    LIVE PIR 8/5/2022

  • belovedbyHim

    tammybikerunfaithlove -- Only at BC.  They can send word through you but they cannot write directly to one another (At Boot Camp)

    tgcunny  -- 2 Letters!!!! WOW!!!! I am still hoping that you hear soon about your sailor.  (Just know that No News is STILL Good News.  Sometimes they are so tired they choose not to wait for the phone to be available!)

    CBMom -- Yep.  I liken it to we are all in our own boat but on the same sea.  I have already charted a course through boot camp and so I can help others navigate those waters too.  Chipmunk took a different path (not harder or easier or better or worse, just different) and so she can help those who are similar to her.  Other's in our group found their routes and with all of us sharing what we experienced it will help at least one other mom to also Navigate these Navy waters.  When your sailor goes to A school... There will hopefully be moms there who can point out the "reefs and shoals" and let you know where to find calm waters or safe harbors.  And again when your sailor is in the fleet... You will be encountering so much that is known and unknown that just having someone that you can shout a "Mayday" too that will understand and know how to help is useful. 
    I find that this page (compared to the FB groups I'm in) there are no egos. We are just wanting to encourage and support each of you as you need it.  We want you to get to BS21 and PIR and Say "I'm ready for the next adventure".  This is the Choice you Child made.  You may or may not have had any say in it but here you are.  For at least the Next 5+ years You are A Navy mom.  Even when your sailor leaves You will still have been shaped by this experience and I for one Hope it shapes you all for the better!

  • Ummi

    Athenasbow - BNMH to you and a BIG salute to your new SAILOR! HE DID IT! YOU did it! Overcame your fears, overcame functioning in the dark, overcame sporadic communication, and now you know the meaning of Semper Gumby! Keep that motto as your Sailor moves on to A school. It gets easier from here (he's got his phone back!) what with more regular communication, and once he gets his orders you'll again know where your child is. I'm happy for you both!

  • tgcunny

    I HAVE A SAILOR!!!!! My son said his division scored second highest out of the 12 divisions. So proud of him and his division! 

  • 1StepForward

    Tgcunny - WTG! Congratulations. What an achievement!
  • Chipmunk

    tgcunny - WooHoo!!  Bravo Zulu to your new sailor!!

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    BZ to all the new Sailor's!

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Be sure to join your PIR group.  Here are the links:

    PIR OCTOBER 22

    PIR SEPTEMBER 2022

    PIR AUGUST 2022

  • 1StepForward

    I'm thinking care packages have very limited approved items or concidered contraband. Look the same/have the same motto. I believe they even label personal running shoes. I'd ask your SR to specifically ask their Cheif. They'll be the ones approving after all.
  • Shanny

    1STEPFORWARD:  care packages for bootcamp?  Don't send anything to bootcamp unless your SR specifically asks for it. And even then, only send what they asked for. If they are asking,  they have received permission from their RDC to ask for that item. We had someone earlier say their SR asked for their running shoes due to an injury. She had received permission and instruction to have them sent. All packages must be opened in front of the RDC. And there will be punishment if they receive things they weren't given permission to ask for. 

    As for in fleet, I have sent whatever I wanted or thought he needed. The USPS does have a list of things that cannot be sent to FPO addresses. 

  • belovedbyHim

    WHOOP
    WHOOP
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    Attention On Deck!!!
    CONGRATULATIONS TO tgcunny  AND her SAILOR!!!!
    BZ!!!

  • belovedbyHim

    1StepForward -- Shanny is Spot on!!! Do not send anything other than letters with your love (and Pics, puzzles, jokes, riddles... band-aids, moleskin) Unless your sailor asks for something Specific and then only send that item!

  • JNMnavymomOH

    Got a 54 min call with my son tonight. Division is doing well, top 3 and working well together. All great and wonderful news. Except my son was crying most of this time. He believes that he will be ASMO'd after Monday's run. He is really struggling with this aspect. He does not believe that he is getting any better or faster. He believes that now he is a failure and a disappointment. I tried to lift his spirits by saying that it was only a setback and not a separation. Not a failure or a disappointment in the least. That he had my support 1000% no matter what. I reminded him that this was the hardest thing we would ever go through together while separated. It has just been me and him for so many years....he believes that he needs to be the man of the house now. I know that some mom's have been through this. Any advice, thoughts or prayers would be most welcome.
  • CBMom

    BelovedbyHim - Great advice! It’s so good to know that I will still have this group to rely on after BC. I can’t think that far yet- too far on the horizon-can’t see an island yet but it’s good to know it’s there and that there are others sailing beside me:) I agree with you about the fb groups- there is an entirely different tone here. 
    Tcgunny- CONGRATULATIONS!!! How did he sound when he spoke to you? Was it super hard? So glad to hear they worked together and came in 2nd. Proud Momma on board here!!! 

    JNMnavymomOH - Oh poor guy. Prayers for sure. I know my sons recruiter said the run was super easy but I’m a runner, a slow one , lol, but a runner and it’s hard to do that run if you are not a natural runner. Taking off a few minutes is harder than many people think. My son was most worried about that run and we even did an 8k together just before he went to BC. They will get him there. I saw in the videos looks like they will run with him to support him and help him keep pace? I’m sure he is getting faster though. They will likely be having him do some sprinting to increase his stamina. Running is mostly mental so he needs to tell himself he can do it and play mind tricks like counting/singing to himself. Ugh so hard to be away from him when he is crying and in pain. I bet he finds the resolve and gets through it will your support and the support of his crew and RDCs. Hang in there and please keep us posted. This is likely just a temporary setback, which will make him even stronger when he’s successful:) It sounds like to told him just the right things too!

  • 1StepForward

    Thank you Shanny & belovedbyHim. Unless mine specifically says he has PO permission, he gets only approved items.
  • Chipmunk

    Good Morning Everyone!!

    CBMom - one of the reasons that I created the Beyond BC group was that during the PIR shut down, we had several members in this group who had been around for quite a time through all of the ups and downs, and I did not want them to lose that contact going from this group and scattering to many different groups. We also wanted a place where we could discuss life after BC is a member needed to share that, ask questions, or just post what their own daily life. 

    I am not on FB, but the little my husband has shared and even things that I have heard here, I wanted to make sure that my focus when posting is always as encouraging as possible, helping you all to remember not to compare your or your SRs situation with another, because while there are similarities nothing is going to be exactly the same way as another member's experience. That is why I I liked the "ships in the night" analogy. 

    JNMnavymomOH - Those phone calls are hard but doing the best you can to encourage is all you can do. Our SRs and sailors need to know that they can be honest and transparent with us about the things that scare them, the fears they have, the frustrations they are dealing with and that they will not be judged, you are still proud of them and just encouraging them in any way that you can.

    When they are in school, in the fleet, at a duty station, sometimes they need to be encouraged to stick up for themselves and go to their chief with issues, or even go visit a chaplain (whether they are religious or not). Finding that new balance in our Navy Mom role, between encouragement but not being overly expectant in performance is also a hard happy medium to find at times. It is just a matter of practice and doing the best that we can at that moment. 

    My son did not have issues with the running, but there were other things during his schooling that we had to really listen first and then encourage with constructive resolution ideas. 

  • nursekim

    Thank you all for your posts about marriage in the Navy. Luckily his GF (civilian) is not ready and she said she wrote him to tell him that. My son was born to 2 people who just love to love, so I wasn't surprised but I hope I can convince him to wait a bit. 

    He is RCPO for his division and his thumb hurts from the cutlass lol

    Welcome, Laura! The women here are so amazing. I don't post a whole lot but I read every post.

    Congrats Athenasbow and tgcunny!!

    JNMnavymomOH...I hope your SR can get his run in time. 

    I've been writing some good dad jokes in each letter now. I steal them from guys I see on FB. I hope it's a little something to make him laugh and share with others

  • Chipmunk

    nursekim - That says a lot about your son's gf if she is willing to say she thinks they should wait. While distance can make the heart grow fonder, it can also change many things about couples as they experience different things and become involved in different people.  

    It is always good to hear from everyone, even if you just post a hello and say you are reading and gleaning!

  • Chipmunk

    Reminder:  Once your loved one has completed BC and PIR, be sure to change their status on your profile page to Enlisted!!! It is a great way to honor their achievement, but it is also very helpful to those of us that follow the new members. 

    We just get a notice that "so and so" has joined BC Mom group. For those that have common names, when I am searching through the member list, if I see someone's loved one is enlisted, I know that I need to keep searching for the correct new member. Updating your profile page, helps myself and others out when we refer to it for various reasons. 

  • CBMom

    Well said Chipmunk!

  • 1StepForward

    Ditto. Been posting for days, not realizing they haven't been added.
  • Chipmunk

    1Step Forward - If you are posting in your PIR group, it will not show on this group page. Each group on this site has their own page (s) with a comment wall where items post. And if you are using your mobile device there are times when I know others have had issues with their comments not posting, so it is best to just log in (or you don't even have to on this group, since it is public) and see if your comment posted. 

  • Chipmunk

    CBMom - Did you post and then delete? It is fine if you chose to do so, I just wanted to reach out to you. The message still came through in my email feed, but I have been in a car driving for over 10 hours - somehow, our stops always take longer than we think they are going to and I really need to go to bed. Since it is now past 1 AM, my time. 

    Another reason for creating the Beyond BC group was so that issues going on in the fleet could be shared there and not post them here on this group page, where so many of you all are dealing with emotions that are already very raw. 

    I will try to write more in the morning when I am not about to fall asleep but I wanted you to know that I saw your post. 

    Stay confident in your son, and stay hopeful for a positive outcome!

  • belovedbyHim

    CBMom-- yes we(big Navy) lost a sailor this past week. The exact cause is still under investigation. It's not one of the things we bring up on this page because you have enough stress already but accidents do happen. We grieve for the loss and with the family. I am willing to discuss this further via pm.
    Yes your SR can be separated if they took medication and it was not previously disclosed. They can also get in trouble for mouthing off to the RDC's. I the fleet when you are told to jump the only question you can ask is how high... as you are jumping. They don't always send them home for having trouble memorizing or injuries. Most often that results in being ASMO'd (set back 1-3 ish weeks in training) There are situations where they are separated. Some choose to come home following an injury to recover, rehab and try again. (If their recovery is expected to last more than 4 weeks. ) others stay and fight to stay in and do all of that at RTC. On the FB pages there is much less practice of OPSEC and PERSEC. I have been on those pages since I got home from PIR weekend. I have to snooze some of them from time to time. They are your best bet for some rates (job) and usually the only option for ships or duty stations. But I would limit your general Navy moms pages because yes, some can be too much.
  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

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  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Be sure to join your PIR group.  Here are the links:

    PIR OCTOBER 22

    PIR SEPTEMBER 2022

    PIR AUGUST 2022

  • CBMom

    Thank you Chipmunk and BelovedbyHim.

  • tammybikerunfaithlove

    TCGunny - Woot Woot!!! Congrats to your sailor!! So exciting! 

    JNMnavymom - Aww poor guy. BC is rough! And running can be hard (I'm a runner too - and I've watched my pace fluctuate over the years). Prayers for him for strength and endurance. So glad you had a nice long call with him though.  Hopefully it lifted his spirits and he can take on this next week with a little more energy and enthusiasm. 

    Nursekim - glad the GF isnt ready! 

    I got an unexpected call from my SR Friday (shortly after getting a letter in the mail box) - he needed some info.  Got to chat for 10 minutes which was great.  He's having problems with the new RCPO in his div. Seems to want to fight and threaten everyone, including my son. My son is handling it well though - so fingers crossed!  

    Happy Monday!

  • belovedbyHim

    tammybikerunfaithlove -- When you write, encourage him to be a duck!  (Working like mad beneath the surface but allowing "Stuff" to just roll off his back that doesn't belong there!) The RDC's are watching and it's likely that the RCPO will not last long in that position if that is his attitude.  If he is truly threatening other SR's then he may not last long in the Navy as well!

    nursekim-- Congratulations to your SR on the RPOC posting.  his thumb will recover (Or he'll learn to loosen his grip a tad).
    I'm glad that she is cooling things down a bit.  That doesn't mean they shouldn't still be a couple but yes, time is their friend here. 19 and enlisted is a great place to be if you are single but for a couple, it's hard and of course if kids come along that just adds a whole 'nother level to the money stress which in turns adds to the marriage stress!  Encourage him that "Not yet" isn't the same as "No" or "Never".  It may turn out that they grow apart but they may also grow together! 

  • Amy

    Just thought I would say "hello' as I sit here and refresh the USPS Informed Delivery site page every 5.7 seconds.

  • nursekim

    Oh amy that’s too funny! I get emails from them Around 715 every morning so I know when to expect it. Can you sign up for emails? 

  • Amy

    I was getting emails for a while but by the time the email came in the morning, I was already at work and no access to check.  

  • Amy

    Ha!  I'm getting a letter .. happy dance!  I've been very anxious, my SR had a follow up doctor appointment on 8/1 that would determine if she had to be set back or not and I haven't heard anything.  I assumed 'no news was good news' but I'm really more of a 'knowing is better than not knowing' kind of gal.

  • nursekim

    Awesome!! I hope it’s good news!

  • belovedbyHim

    Amy -- Didn't you know a watched mail box never gets any mail!  (As soon as you get distracted that's when it gets delivered!... She says while watching the Amazon delivery truck update.....)

    I Hope you are able to get home and get your letter soon!! If she was being set back that would be a Phone call Home, just to ease your mind!  Change in Training/ PIR date ALWAYS comes with a PHONE CALL!