Norfolk Sailors - Family & Friends

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Portsmouth Hospital Fire

B-Ready

Skin conditions aren't always allergies.  There are so many other things that could be in play here.  The body tries to dump toxins many ways and through the skin is one avenue.  It could be as a result of GMO food (corn, sugar from beets, soybeans and soybean oil, and papaya from Hawaii); toxins in our food, lotions rubbed on skin, etc; and even over the counter drugs.  Tests from the medical community will not be able to detect these things.  Muscle testing will be able to.  It is also called Applied Kinesiology. 

Check out  http://www.responsibletechnology.org/buy-non-gmo

for more information.  The other culprit could be sensitivity to gluten which does cause skin issues.  It does not show up as an allergy, but sometimes shows up with a blood test.  Gluten sensitivity for the general population is from wheat having 40 chromosomes instead of the original 14 that was originally put in wheat.  This is due to hybridization. 

Some medical professionals feel free to discuss these issues when brought up to them, but some avoid veering from current allopathic medicine due to possible consequences. 

Also, stay away from all aspartame and artificial sweeteners!!!   (very damaging to the brain)

Please don't leave this sight just yet.  Turn off email notifications, but get back on and let us know how to continue praying for your son.  His needs will change.  We will walk this journey alongside you no matter how long it takes.  Give him a hug from all of us. 

B-Ready: Please know that your NAVY sisters are lifting you and your son up in prayer.  I am asking our good LORD to send you angels to protect and guide you thru this tough time. Take up Mrs. Wagner's offer. I'm sure she could be a big help to you.  I meant to send this msg this morning but my phone is smarter than me. HUGS...

B-Ready,

If he is feeling like there are worms crawling under his skin, check out Morgellon's disease.  Not a pretty picture.  Looks like synthetic fibers, but seems to possibly be fungi.  If so, check out Far Infrared Therapy to see if it helps from:

http://morgellonsdiseaseawareness.com/tips

read the last article at the very bottom of the page as well.

B-Ready,

to get rid of annoying critters without chemicals, get a diffuser and diffuse an essential oil blend called Purification.  Very effective at getting rid of them and has an effect on the germs in the air and on surfaces.  Makes the place smell clean and also used for detoxing spider and snake bites while on your way to the hospital.  I always keep that blend around. 

Private message me if you want to know more.  Keep us posted.  Prayers are to "save what He wanted your son to do in the Navy" in the first place.  There is a future here for him. 

B-Ready, my son had a rash or breakout on his arms last year just after getting to Norfolk, it made him miserable, it looked more like ringworm to me, it was so red. My son didnlt want to show me his arms at first, he warned me that they looked alot better than at first I was shocked to see how bad they looked and it had been weeks since he first broke out. He thinks it was from a nasty room he was put in once he first got to Norfolk, becasue he did not have it before he got there. It left scars on his arms. Some of these rooms are not the cleanest and you have to clean them yourself because whoever was there before you doesn't always follow the rules and leave it clean. Anyway it tooks months to clear up, his doctor on his boat gave him medication for it. I hope that your sons is as simple as that, and they can get him the right treatment.

B-Ready, I texted my son and he said that he did not remember the name of the ointment but that it did not work very well, he was being deployed on a sub and said that taking vitamins C&D and the clean air on the sub he thinks is what cleared his up. Sorry I am no help with the name of the medication, I know how frustrating it can be. Prayers for your son and you.

B-Ready,

I have been reading your post daily and I am sorry to read that your son has to go through such an ordeal. I pray he gets well soon.   Have you asked the doctor about Bed Bugs?  My son is station in VA also.

I've been reading and catching up... And Kathy, you wrote my thoughts as I was reading...She is an inspiration!!

B-Ready, I cannot even imagine how I would be handling a situation such as yours...I doubt I could do it so gracefully! The power of prayer is a beautiful thing...and it's so amazing to watch it work.

I'm so happy to hear that Steven is improving with the rest he has been able to get. My own doctor has told me of the damage that sleep deprivation can do to your body and mind, so I know how important it is for him to be able to sleep. Even the Navy has been doing studies on reworking duty schedules to allow Sailors to be able to sleep more because they have realized, finally, the damage that can be done when they are not fully rested. But I have to admit, my heart broke even more thinking of what he must have been going through before you got there, knowing something was wrong but not able to get any help. Bless his heart!! I wish I could hug him! :)

I will continue to pray for you and Steven and for God's will to be done here. I agree with the others, please don't leave the group. I feel so connected to you and Steven's story and I would love to continue to pray for whatever your needs may be in the future.

I will also continue to pray for all of our sons and daughters...especially those struggling without support from friends or family...and those of us struggling without them, too. ((hugs)) 

BeReady Can someone from the base or hospital go to Stevens room and get a sample of the bugs to identify them? Just the thought that these are not fruits flies. Fruit flies do not bite, but bed bugs do, so do no see'ms. Lice? Scabies? Seems that it would make sense to inspect that room.

I would never have thought that the Navy would allow someone to move into a room visibly infested with any kind of insect. It's sad and disgusting and it makes me angry for the poor kids that are forced to live in that. If you are stationed in a jungle somewhere, I could understand you would have to deal with it, and you would probably be issued the tools you would need to deal with it. But on the largest Naval Air Station in the world? In the United States? In a major city? I don't get it. Do they not go in and inspect these quarters when one moves out and before another moves in? See...I don't think I could handle this graciously...

Bed bugs are very hard to get rid of usually you have to throw away the mattress and bed, and they travel on luggage and clothes. Very hot water temperature when doing laundry. 

I feel the same TJCsMom, my son had a reaction to something in the room he was assigned to after he got to Norfolk and it left scars on his arms it was really bad. I know that he tells me he scrubs and cleans his room and make sure the trash is taken out, he was not raised in a dirty home and does not want to spend his days there in a dirty disease infested room. You would think they would have someone inspect and make sure the room is clean when a perosn leaves. That should be just part of the check out list. We want the best for our Sailors and shouldn't have to worry about them sleeping in a filthy room. Prayers for our children.

I also agree with TJC's mom and donnab.  Somehow I do believe it is part of the check out - but maybe something "moved" into the room because it was empty or other sailors seeing it was empty used it for a nearby trash.  Who knows.  But the sad thing is that when he got there the bugs were visible and real and the person on Duty should have done something.  I hear so many horror stories.  Don't know if it is because of the dwindling budget, thus less people to do all the work or someone who just doesn't care.

Reading all the messages...I am so disgusted and saddened that our sailors have to live in these horrible conditions....someone has definitely dropped the ball here....I know my son had room inspection when he lived on base....he has since moved to a different base...and looking forward to his next assignment...Will continue to pray for Steven and all oursailors.

I am so very sorry to read of this sailor's experience. I will say thank goodness that I have never read of another instance like this here, and my son enlisted in 2007 and has lived both in barracks and on ships.  Barracks room inspections are rigorous and a piece of lint on the floor or a week's worth of dust on a windowsill will get you written up.  

On ships, the medical department's preventive medicine techs are tasked with an enormous job that they carry out successfully, so much so that CNN recently did a story about them, citing the lack of outbreaks on Navy ships with up to 5,000 onboard, compared to the many norovirus incidents in the cruise industry.  

On balance,I would say the Navy does do a good job, in no small part because maintaining readiness is a critical part of their mission.  

Web link:  http://sanjayguptamd.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/10/sailors-dont-get-sick-3/

Does anyone else have a son on the IWO JIMA? 

KrisT1

yes, there are a few of us.  Working 15 hour days for weeks with little time off.  Sleep deprivation?  I am sure.

Thanks it would be great to know some other moms!

TJC's mom I agree with you this is a disgrace. 

Could they have opened up with out checking some rooms that had been vacant because of lack of space?

B-Ready,

I don't understand how he can get discharged from a hospital when it hasn't been figured out exactly what is the cause of the allergic reaction?  Steven hasn't been successfully treated and brought to a recovery stage yet.  Is he going to a hospice place? 

B-Ready, I know there are clean and nicer places that have been inspected too, but my son also broke out with some type fungus or rash, so I do believe that not all places are inspected and that it is ashame that our sailors have to sleep in such undesireable conditions. I am so sorry that your son is having such a bad case of this, I pray they find out exactly what it is and get him on the right treatment.

From my experience with my son when he had a blood clot go to his lung, the hospital had several groups of doctors that would come in and and each time I heard a different treatment plan, this was very upsetting to me, so much confusion. I felt they released him too soon, because he still had chest pains and made several trips back to the emergency room. He is off limited duty now and doing well, the whole experience was very stressful on the whole family.

Wow! I can't believe what transpires after a couple of days away from the computer! 

B-Ready, my husband and I would have come to visit Steven in the hospital, but he was sick last week, and that would not have been a good thing for Steven.  We will be praying with you and the other navy moms for Steven's recovery and wisdom for the doctors.

Yvonne

I'll give you a call later today.

Whoaaa...and then there's this! I'm trying to be graceful and gracious. Just smile and nod your head, B-Ready.

I got to thinking about the Navy releasing Your son from service so quickly. This confuses me, I remembered that when one of mine was in BC there was a kid in his division that came with a mouthful of rotten teeth. He had all his teeth pulled, the navy put in implants!! Expensive right? The minute he got his new teeth he broke his ankle and said "gee I guess I will have to go home" we think this was on purpose and he wanted free new teeth. Well they did not release him and last I heard he had PIR 4 months later. Why would the navy keep someone like that and not your son who had such honors during a School? 

Britt  I think we are all just upset with this situation and are trying to help. this young man, I've know his Mama for over a year now, has always been a great sailor. He had earned honors all over the place and to have this happen and possibly be released rather quickly from the navy is bothersome and I personally feel not right. We are all moms and as such our mama claws come out at injustice. Some day (I notice you are a wife) as you have kids you will understand, I am sure no disrespect meant. 

B-Readt you are strong and you have passed this onto your son.  Bless you and we will pray for you both.  Remember he has Tri--care and doctors all over the US will cover him at no expense (don't know about certain specialist).  Good luck.

I do believe that all of the posts have been respectful.  We all truly care for Steven and his family and this is a true tragedy.

My son is having medical issues with his right shoulder - is in physical therapy only after continually going to the Doc assigned to his ship.  He says she is nice and seems to be a good doc, but because of the size of his ship he can't get permission to see another doc for a MRI or second opinion.  He can't put on his own clothes or put his arm behind him without extreme pain.  Yes, not everything makes sense, just like everywhere else but how do they not seem to provide the services to keep their sailors healthy.  If he would need surgery, right now would be the perfect time as he is on shore duty and he could heal before his next deployment.  Delaying doesn't seem to make sense.  

This is not as nearly as bad of an issue as overall health and cleanliness of the sailors quarters.  I pray that something gets done to help the situation in the quarters.

B-Ready, It is so nice to have control of a situation like this and get the medical attention needed. I know that you have went about taking care of your son just as I would. May God Bless you and your family and I pray that your son will be past all of this soon and that this has opened the eyes of individuals that can make sure that something like this does not happen to others. My sons was just a mild case compared to yours and I am thankful for that.

You are doing what a Mother should do and that is being there taking care of their child. No matter how old or wherever they may be they are our children, Precious Blessings from God.

I'm sorry, I have to speak up about this. I think that abuon18 was speaking of her situation, from her experience. I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't think we should take the comments so personally or as a personal attack against  a spouse who works in the medical field. I haven't read (or written) anything that was intended as an attack. But the truth is, some of the conditions of rooms in the barracks are not healthy or fit for any of our Sailors to live in. And, some here have had poor experiences with military medical personnel. It happens!

My son is stationed on a ship. There have been times when he has stated how disgusting it gets in the enlisted berthings and heads. He has said many times, that he cannot believe people can be so "gross" and show such a lack of concern for cleanliness or for their own personal hygiene. He has also told me about times when sickness has spread rapidly through the ship and they have had to quarantine 1/2 of the ship to one side for sick, and the other 1/2 to the other side for well Sailors. It happens! Even with all of the cleaning that goes on. It's just the way it is. But, I don't think it is wrong for us to discuss it, or vent it, or gripe about it. If we need to be censored here, just let us know.

But, the reality is, even in the Navy, the ball gets dropped. Someone lets something slide, that turns bad. Like a little bit of trash left in a room, that becomes infested with bugs, that causes the next Sailor in that room to have a severe allergic reaction of some kind. Or, a symptom that was missed in a diagnosis, that led treatment in the wrong direction. We are all humans, we make mistakes. Even Sailors make mistakes. But, if we gripe about things we experience, I don't think it's right to say that we are perpetrating rumors or generalizing the medical field. It's one experience, that may lead to others voicing their experiences. Why can't we talk about it?

I love the Navy! I love that my son chose the Navy. I am proud to be the Mother of a United States Navy Sailor. But it is far from perfect! Just my 2 cents...

I truly respect everyone's comments.  But instead of everyone talking about how bad the barracks are, is there anything we can do to change it?  My son just moved into the barracks and says it's fine, but is he saying that because its better than being on the ship!!

 Pamelaship14div361, My son has been moved around several times since being in Norfolk, he said that some rooms are nice and other are not, so he goes and buys his bleach and other cleaners and cleans his room himself before he ever sleeps in the room, he talked about scrubbing the bathroom tiles with a toothbrush. Since he had a bad experience with a skin rash from a not so clean room he has made sure he cleans his room from top to bottom before moving in.

Pamela, not all of the barracks are bad. I know that there are different buildings that house barracks, because my son was, at one point, in a room in the "new" barracks and he loved it. But, some of the older buildings are a little more "run down". And not all of the rooms are dirty, because most of the Sailors that vacate leave them clean. And then sometimes, things get missed in inspections.

I don't know that there is anything we, as parents, can do about it, but I would definitely have your son give it a good cleaning, with lots of disinfectants, before he settles in. Even my son cleaned his fairly new room, from top to bottom.

Does anyone know of any SAFE, reliable daycares in the Norfolk area.    Maybe by the mall?

Well B-Ready dropped out of N4M's. Sad. Her son is being discharged for medical. 

CO-Twin, did this happen today? I thought he was going to be able to report back to work. Did something else happen? I truly hate to see her go and us lose contact with his progress. Please let her know that I will keep them in my prayers.

I will keep you posted as she emails me news. She wanted you to know about the alveno and whoever it was here that recommended it it worked and she is greatful.

Also prayers please this lake is 5 miles from my home. It involved 2 adults and 3 children. Sad day here.

http://www.watchnewspapers.com/view/full_story/24795469/article-BRE...

Terrible news from late last night at the base:   pilotonline.com: Sailor, civilian die in shooting at Naval Station Norfolk.  A civilian was shot and killed by security officers Monday night at Norfolk Naval Station after a shooting that left a sailor dead aboard the destroyer Mahan.

The incident occurred about 11:20 p.m. on Pier 1, according to Navy spokeswoman Terri Davis. The civilian male, described by the Navy as the suspect in the shooting, was shot and killed by Naval Security Forces. Davis could not say whether there was a standoff between the man and the security officers.  http://hamptonroads.com/2014/03/sailor-civilian-die-shooting-norfol...

WAVY.com/channel 10 news story and video:  http://wavy.com/2014/03/25/two-dead-after-shooting-at-pier-at-naval...

judysgirl, I saw your question about daycare - try this N4M group Navy Wives of Norfolk and Portsmouth

And definitely ask your Family Readiness Group for the Truman.  If you need help contacting them - how to locate your FRG and Ombudsman

Hello Ginnysue, my son is on the Truxtun as well. OS. 

Welcome!