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  • Wanda (HN Rota, Spain)

    Sarge (John Sparado) asked me to post this information:

    The Sundance Saloon in conjunction with Veterans Transportation Network is hosting the first Meet and Greet for Navy Dads and Navy Moms on October 6th 2011 from 7:00PM until closing. Free transportation will be provided to the Sundance Saloon which is located in the Fountain Square Shopping center (less than 3 minutes from the Hotels). Transportation to and from the following hotels is free, Marriott Courtyard Waukegan, Marriott Spring Hill Suites Waukegan, Marriott Residence Inn Waukegan, Holiday Inn Express Waukegan, and the Candlewood  Suites in Waukegan.  For the Ramada and other hotels the rate is very fair. See our contact information below.

    Buffett Food is complimentary and will be provided by the Sundance Saloon.  Every person attending will be given a coupon for their graduating sailor for a free meal this weekend at Trattoria-Pomigliano restaurant located at 600 N. Milwaukee Avenue in Libertyville. Sailor must be accompanied by their family or host family. Here is their face book http://www.facebook.com/pages/Trattoria-Pomigliano/119923645811 link.

    The evening will be very informative and fun, yes fun.  Brief subjects covered are:  what to expect at graduation, do’s and don’ts, how to get to graduation quicker than others, places to go and see, and how to save money while in the Chicago land area. Sarge and his partner Gene will be available throughout the night for any questions you may have.

    Now I did say fun. The Sundance Saloon will provide a DJ for entertainment and the free buffet food.  There will be dancing and songs by request. This is a country saloon so bring your cowboy hats. The Saloon is actually within walking distance from the hotels mentioned below.  If you prefer you can also order food off their award winning menu. 

    Your Sailors, like Gene and I are serving our United States with honor. Gene and I have combined over 26 years in the Armed Forces. As veterans we know what these young men and women have gone through and where they are heading.  Let’s make it a FUN AND INFORMATIVE night.  We will reserve subject material for those who arrive late.

    Thank you our Veterans for your service, the parents, friends, wives, husbands and siblings of our proud young men and women.

    CONTACT information Dena (Host Sundance saloon) 847-887-0858 – 300 Lakehurst Road, Waukegan, IL

    Directions click here http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&gs_upl=4096l10265l0l10776l24l...

    John Spadaro (AKA Sarge) 847-212-0246

    Gene Spencer (AKA Og) 815-307-5154

    PS… if you need transportation from or to the Airports call Gene or John for special Navy Graduation rates.
  • wellen(ship04/DIV818 PIR 9/1)

    Ladies, My SR has now moved on from GL, but I have met both these men, in fact spent a bit of time with them discussing this idea, there may be some start up quirks, but I would have full confidence in them to do it well.  I would attend. The Ramada format was a bit disapppointing, although still fun.   Get the word out about N4Ms...I am working on the recruitment offices to make the brochures available and obvious as potential recruits enter.  Hooyah!
  • WandaG

    Thanks for your input Wellen. I figured we would probably gain some information attending Sarge's Meet and Greet instead of the Ramada. We can still socialize and at the same time get some useful information.
  • Diana (Proud Navy Mom)

    I have heard that the Ramada Meet and Greet is alot of fun so I intend to go to the Ramada first and then go to Sarge's. Looking forward to both and to meeting the Navy4Moms people I have met on here!  Three more weeks!!

  • Diana (Proud Navy Mom)

    I don't know, but if he is I will be going to both Meet and Greets.  I have heard alot of good things about Sarge and I have also heard that the one at the Ramada is fun.

  • MomAnt

    I asked this in another group but didn't get any answers. Hopefully someone here will know.... I've read in several places that the recruits are now being issued the all-black back pack they can use as a carry-on when flying to A-School. My question... Does anyone know if our SRs can bring those to us after PIR so we can fill them and bring them to the airport the next morning? When will they know if they are on a charter flight. I've also read that we can't meet them at the airport if they are on one. I don't think it would be good to have the back pack and then find out we can't give it to them. Thanks for your help.
  • jacketfan24 (corpsman mom)

    I just saw the answer to this on Boot Camp moms...it said that you can bring the stuff to the airport to put into the backpack but they can't give it to you.  No answer about the charter flight; I guess they will have to have it shipped to them then.  I don't think charter flights are common, though. 
  • MomAnt

    Thanks jacketfan! Patience... I'm working on it. LOL!
  • jacketfan24 (corpsman mom)

    I am the same way; although I think the answer was there AFTER you posted this!  I just saw it before you did.  I had the same question, though, so I was glad to see the answer!

  • MomAnt

    Oh! OK! Thanks Kathy! The laptop seems to be his main concern, worried it won't fit in the back pack. I was unaware they could use an additional bag. This soft pack laptop bag is really good news! Does that count as a 2nd carry-on? I HAVE heard they can check as many bags as they want. Is this true?

    You might be the perfect person to ask about HM A-School too! LOL! My SR will be going to San Antonio. Do you know how roommates are assigned? Is it random or do they get to choose? Thanks for your help!

  • Renee

    Just got back from Chicago - what a great event!!!  It was so awesome, seeing the divisions march into the hall.  I hope everyone who can make the trip to PIR does - it's the memory of a lifetime!

    Regarding the black backpack - it is very large (expandable) and we were able to get the laptop, shoes, various undergarments, some food and other electronics.  They also had their seabags and a garment bag to carry.  Hope this helps!!

  • MomAnt

    Thanks so much for the helpful info. Kathy and Renee!
  • Philly5 (Justin's proud mom)

    Renee- food in the backpack?  snacks?  Glad you had a great time.  Can't wait to go 10/21!
  • Renee

    Philly - I had brought him some brownies and we picked up some candy when we were out on Friday.  I know others have talked about snacks as well.  Remember, since you're giving them this stuff at the airport, it just has to fit in the backpack.  The brownies were nearly gone by the time they checked their bags (watching them move their gear was pretty amusing!) - kids can smell brownies a mile away! Since my son's group had been up and out so early, they were pretty hungry by the time we showed up...That was a challenge, since there are limited food options before going through security.

    Each airport is different - his group flew out of Midway.  After they checked their bags, they went to the USO and hung out for most of the day.  They had the option to take the train into the city, but decided not to.  Since we had to drive back to Atlanta we stayed with the sailors for about 90 mins - enough time to visit and meet his buddies.  They didn't head for the gate/security until after we left, so we didn't need to worry about gate passes.

  • Philly5 (Justin's proud mom)

    Renee thanks for the info.!  Great idea
  • SheilaD

    My son stays at GL for A school, so no airport issues, but does anyone know when he officially 'moves over' to his A school accomodations, and what he can have there?  He hasn't said anything in his letters yet.  I guess maybe after BS, they start to talk about graduation and A school.
  • LMC -mom of 2 Sailors!

    GL staying after PIR move that day. (so they did the day my son PIR was 6/10) Once tehy move over to the A school side they can have pretty much normal stuff again. ie laptops and cell phones. But NOTHING is allowed to go back to the Division Barracks. If they try and get caught it will ruin it for the whole division.
  • SheilaD

    Thanks, LMC.  Does that mean they move before they go for liberty?  I did hear that they were very strict about being late after liberty and anything (gifts, etc. ) going back to division barracks.
  • SheilaD

    Thanks, Kathy.  Can't wait for that call!!
  • Renee

    We were in the "car line" about 7:30 on Friday night and saw quite a few Sailors bailing from their respective rides - hilarious!  There is a traffic officer due to the number of Sailors walking, and he was quite forceful with the cars (put your window down so you can hear what's going on - there's alot happening in the evening).  In some ways it's just like preschool - wait in line, pull up, drop your Sailor off and keep going around the loop!  No problems getting our Sailor back on time, but he was adamant about being back before 8PM.
  • Bandito's Mom

    Wondering, did anyone go to Sarge's Meet & Greet for the most recent PIR?  How did it go?  Are more planned?
  • B'sproudmom

    We have PIR this Friday.  I am also wondering if Sarge will still be doing the addtional Meet & Greet?
  • donnac (ship 02 div 948)

    Hi my son's PIR was this past Friday 10/14. The ceremony was awesome, it was great to finally see my son after those long 8 weeks. My son was in DIV 948 which is the DIV that performs during graduation. When I entered the doors to the hall and saw my SR standing there it was the most exciting feeling ever. I wasn't sure if I was able to hug him but he reach out to me and hugged me first!! I stayed at the Navy Lodge which was great and instead of renting a car I used "Sarge" for all of my traveling needs as well as guidance on where to go and what to do. PIR is absolutely an experience your SR and you will never forget!! Good luck to all past present and future Sailors!!
  • WandaG

    Congrats Donnac!! My daughter is in DIV 901. Her PIR is 11/18.  I can't wait to see her perform.  We will also be using Sarge's services.
  • AlohagirlinCA (Mom of MT)

    What/who is Sarge...and how do we get to use him/it to get around if we're stayin at the Navy Lodge??
  • donnac (ship 02 div 948)

    Here is Sarge's number (847) 212-0246. He runs a taxi service and he is awesome!! Any questions you have of where to eat or where to go he has all the answers.
  • WandaG

    If Sarge is going to have another meet and greet on 11/10 PIR then maybe he may continue on having them. Hoping he has one for the 11/18 PIR :o)
  • Bandito's Mom

    So, if we want Sarge to have a meet & greet on 11/4 we need to call him?  or is he planning one every week?  I wonder if his first one was well attended, and if not, maybe he is thinking it isn't worth having more.  But I liked the plan of his and it sounded much more fun.  So, please let us know what is in the plans

    I am happy to go to both Ramada and Sarge's., but I have too much on my plate to try to set up a second one for Sarge... Is he having them automatically?  (sorry if this sounds snarky, I just want to know and not have to chase the info)

  • Invisible12

    I'll be posting some information on Sarge's meet and greet over the weekend for PIR on 11/10.  I just might go to his instead of the Ramada.  Not sure yet.

     

    I have a question about PIR - alot of moms recommend sitting on the upper levels of the bleachers.  But after watching some videos of PIR I'm wondering why they feel the upper seats are better.  From the video, it seemed harder to see your sailor and people standing up in front of you blocking your view. 

  • Philly5 (Justin's proud mom)

    Hey everyone.  I just got back from our Oct 21 PIR and I did talk to Sarge.  He IS having a Meet n Greet every Thursday evening from 5-10 at the Sundance Saloon.  That is located in Fountain Square in Waukegan.  It is right across the street from SpringHill Suites (which is where we stayed and is really nice). There was free snacks and music.  He gave us some great tips for PIR when we were there. He told us to park in the train station and get a daily pass.  That saved a TON of time because you don't have to wait in line with a million cars and there really isn't much of a walk to get to PIR.  Unlike 3-4 blocks when parking in the base.  It worked out really well.   IF you have any questions about PIR or Meet n Greet - feel free to message me!
  • Philly5 (Justin's proud mom)

    oh and by the way, the Sundance Saloon is a huge hall type of place and is only open to NAVY families.  It is a neat place!  We brought our 12 yr old and she had fun.
  • Invisible12

    I opened a discussion above about Sarge's Meet & Greet.
  • Philly5 (Justin's proud mom)

    when  you get closer to the graduation hall where you park (there is a long line of traffic going in) instead of going into the base,  you go left to the train station.  There is an area where you put the money in to get a daily pass.  i think it was two bucks.  then you put that pass on the inside of your car in front windshield .  There is NAVY personnel directing the traffic when  you get closer.  just tell them you are parking in the train station. It worked awesome!!  Hardly any walk and less people going into the hall from that side.
  • WandaG

    Philly5- I'm also staying at the Springhill Suites for my daughter's PIR 11/18. Did you as for a military discount? If so and if you don't mind me asking what was the rate of your room? I didn't but received a AAA discount. I'm paying $80 per night for 2 queen beds. Also, did you get a hot breakfast buffet or was it continental? The photos looked nice online. It's just nice to hear it a review from someone who stayed there.

     

  • Philly5 (Justin's proud mom)

    Wanda- SpringHill Suites is awesome.  I love it there.  I have been there twice.  I will message you some info.
  • WandaG

    Okay Philly5, thanks!
  • SheilaD

    We stayed at the Navy Lodge, in Great Lakes, for our son's PIR, on 10-21.  Very nice and really close.  $65 per night.  You sign in under your SR's name.  They gave us 'breakfast to go' in a little bag.  It was a bagel, cream cheese, OJ and a granola bar.  They also have a little gift shop there and info on local attractions.  We also had access tothe NEX, which is right in the same complex as the Navy Lodge. 

     

    Hi, Philly5!!

  • WandaG

    SheilaD, I believe your only allowed to go into the NEX with your sailor, right? My sailor will not be able to hang with us right after PIR because she has to move her stuff into her new barracks for A-School. She will be staying there for A-School. I thought it would be cool to kill some time and go to the NEX. My hubby is looking for a P-coat.
  • MomAnt

    Trying to prepare for PIR and came across this in one of the discussions above...

    "7. You don't have a lot of time with your sailor in the PIR Hall....they will urge you to get out after some photos. Your sailor will return to their ship to get their pictures for you....could take a while....arrange a place to meet him/her on base."

    Here are my questions... About how long is the wait generally, for those flying out the next day? Do the shuttles wait too? Where do parents typically wait for their sailor? Thanks!

  • MomAnt

    Thank you so much Kathy!
  • jacketfan24 (corpsman mom)

    Just got back from my son's PIR on the 28th.  It was amazing, and just wanted to share my limited experiences.  We stayed at the Residence Inn, which was really nice (we drove all night and got in about 10am and they let us check in early).  We decided to go to Sarge's Meet and Greet since most of the people I have gotten to know best were going there, and it was really nice.  About 10 families came, which wasn't many, but with two to pick from, I think most went to the more established one.  He had great info and is a really nice guy. 

    We were actually able to drive directly onto base without having to wait in a line, which is almost unheard of, from what I understand.  There was not a long line inside, either.  We were not asked to show my 11 year old's birth certificate there, but did need it for the gate pass at the airport.  We sat about halfway up in the bleachers, and unfortunately, I had not checked out the camera I planned to use before I went, and it wasn't working properly, so I didn't get the pictures I wanted.  I got some, but there were blurry.  Definately check out your equipment before leaving home!  We waited at the NEX for him to go back to the ship to get his pictures, so we ordered the DVD while we waited.  Major crowds in the NEX; wouldn't recomment going there right afterward.  I got a sweatshirt for my younger son and realized when I got home it was a woman's size, not a men's size, so he can't wear it.  It was just to crowded to shop.  We went to lunch and to Verizon to upgrade his phone and get a hotspot for A school since he can't get internet there without it, and then just hung out at the hotel.  We met him at the airport the next day.  We didn't use a taxi service and didn't have time to tour Chicago, so I don't have any info on those things.  It was a great experience, but next time we visit him, I will NOT drive there!  It was a long trip. 

  • Bandito's Mom

    We were surprised that there is a large commissary off base in Great Lakes.  Has more memorabilia to chose from then NEX and was so much easier to shop there.  If you don't have to go to NEX for pics, I would just head on over to the off-base commissary.
  • WandaG

    Has anyone who's been to PIR taken the "Navy Tour Chicago" bus? It's a bus or shuttle that takes you all over Chicago. $40 round trip. It departs from the base at 11am after PIR and returns you around 7pm. Just wanted to get someone else's take on it.

  • WandaG

    Bellachella, I figured my daughter would not have the energy to go into the city. She liked the idea of staying fairly local. She really liked the idea of hanging out at the Gurnee Mall and eating at Cracker Barrel then head to the hotel and just relax and talk. All she wants to do is talk and catch up with us. So since her father needs to spend time with her separate from us. He will spend time with her Friday and Sunday and my family and I will go into Chicago after PIR on Friday and hang; Saturday will be our time with her. We'll have her the whole day :o) Sarge also told me the train station is 100 yards away from the base; easy walk. So we may just do that since it's a lot cheaper as well. I can't wait for PIR which is November 18.

    Congrats to you and your sailor!

  • Whit and Stephen's Mom (Ann)

    Wanda G - The best advice I got last weekend was the train station parking!  The driveway/road literally ends in the parking lot.  Just keep to the left, as everyone else will be turning right onto the base.  Get your "space number" because you will need it when you pay for parking.

  • WandaG

    Thanks Whit's Mom but we will not be driving. We will be using Sarge's service to get picked up and dropped off, except for Chicago. We plan to take the train in for that.

  • kristie 09/016

    @whitsmom, so are you saying the best place to park for PIR is in the train station parking lot? I thought we could park on the base? How much did parking at the train station cost you? And what train station is it?
  • spontino

    We parked on base and it was very easy and didn't have a long walk to get in...they say if you are trying to get off base quickly after PIR that there is a lot of traffic.   But for us, we hung around for a little bit so it didn't matter and there wasn't a wait to get off base.

  • kristie 09/016

    Ok, thanks!! We plan on hanging around as long as we can, so traffic shouldn't matter too much.
  • Whit and Stephen's Mom (Ann)

    @kristie yes, for $2 you can park in the train lot.  You don't have to wait in traffic and it is literally a stone's throw to the hall.  It is closer than any lot on base.