Sailors becoming Hospital Corpsmen at A School in San Antonio, TX - best rating in the Navy! The Hospital Corps is the Navy's only enlisted Corps and the most decorated in the Navy. Families, friends and loved ones, join in!
For those that are even thinking about going to San Antonio...
Expedia.com is doing a special for the 4 star Sheraton Gunter Hotel San Antonio which is on the River Walk for only $53 per night. That is extremely cheap!
@Craig, I just went to the sight and the sale is for the week of 9/3-9/7 when I plugged in my sons graduation date the rate went up to $85 for Saturday and $75 for Monday and Tuesday do you think that is a good rate?
OKC - I just went there again and it shows $53.25 for 9-3 to 9-7. For the weekend it will go up, but that is really cheap anyways for the River Walk.
Here is what I did. I book this cheap rate through Expedia 9-3 to 9-7 on one reservation for $53.25 per night. (knowing I can cancel it up to 8-29 i think). Then the other nights I put on a separate reservation. This locked me in for that extremely cheap rate.
Then, I went to Sheraton.com and filed a Lowest price guarantee form (take about 2 minutes to fill out and you don't even need to book a room). They will then price match the Expedia's rate of $53.25 (for the 9-3 to 9-7) plus give you another 10%. So my room on the River Walk at a 4 star hotel is only $47.92 per night. Heck Motel 6 can't even get that low....
Once Sheraton sends you an email with the approval of the price match, then you cancel your Expedia booked room.
To me, make two reservations, that way they can compare apples-to-apples....
anitabchef...I grew up driving the freeways of LA (and before some of those were there!) and SA was nuts! We almost ended up in Corpus Christi trying to get to Sea World!!!
Craig...any ideas about how to find a good hotel near Camp Pendleton? I don't use a lot of those websites for cheap hotels. Guess I need to start.
Drama I think the recruiter is just putting pressure on him to get someone to enlist. He will get the credit even if he doesn't get someone to enlist. He is trying to think of places to go to hand out cards to get people to come in and talk to them. So far he went to two different malls.
Craig, he is doing RAP now. Started on Monday and will finish Friday. He goes in at 9:00 and gets out around 15:00. I think they are just putting the pressure on so he gets someone. He said it is really slow in the office so he does paperwork and goes out to the malls to hand out cards. He had a girl come in today and answered all her questions. The First Class Officer on duty was so impressed he want to write him a review! Said he had to be with him for 4 monthes so he couldn't. I told him ask for a letter of recommendation. Those are always nice to have.But he likes doing it so its all good.
Robert/HM mom - I just talked to my daughter, I will not have any problem taking pictures of your daughter. Your daughter is one of 3 Navy sailors (out of over 100 sailors or military?) getting an award at the graduation. She will be going on stage twice, once for the award, and once to get her graduation certificate. She will be in the front row.
I know you must be feeling really proud! Congratulations!
Drama & NavyGirlz - I travel to a lot of fun places. The cheapest way I've found is to go bid on Hotwire or Priceline. You can find out pretty much which hotel you will stay and the price because of what other winning bidders say at this forum:
Craig - Thank you so much for writing me back concerning graduation. Being a single parent since my daughter was a year old I have never, never missed any of her events, the PIR in GL was wonderful, but I have been out of work for 2 years and have a mother home in the last stage of dementia. I unfortunately had to make a very, very hard decision. My daughter understands as she and I lived with grandparents all her life. I am so very proud of her!!!! So I thank you from the bottom of my heart and good luck to your air force daughter, you have to be an extremely proud Dad. Thank you again and God Bless.
Hey everyone! Just a quick question, if my sailor gets a C school, will he get leave after A school or will he be expected to report right to C school? Or does it depend on the start of C school?
Also, how soon before graduation are orders given out?
txbabydocmom - Thanks for the info! :) My husband just finished the EMT portion, but they haven't gotten a list to pick orders yet. But I just spoke to him and he said they should get all the info next week. Thanks again for your help!
Anyone know if RAP is a one time deal and how soon they will get credit for it? Also my son is going to NC to train with the Marines until Dec 21 then has to report to VA by Dec 23. Will he get time off for holidays? Does he put Chit into NC so he can come home first or VA so he can come home after he reports in?
Does anyboody know if they allow dogs around the dorm buildings? I am planning on surprising my husband with our dogs and I wanted to have him come down to the parking lot, but I don't want to get in trouble. Lol we will only be there a few minutes and will stay in the parking lot area.
I personally can't see that having dogs in the parking lot would be a big deal. I would think that as long as you picked up after them it would be fine, but that's just my opinion
1proudmom...RAP duty or Recruiting Assistance Leave Program is a program where Sailors can work with their recruiters for 5 days. They get earned leave back by doing it. It can only be done between completion of school and prior to reporting to their first duty station while they are home on leave. My son did his RAP duty when he was home visiting before reporting to FMTB. He enjoyed doing it. His recruiter determined what uniform he would need to wear. It was a hoot to come downstairs one morning to see my son IRONING his NWU's. He had already polished his boots and had his hair cut the day before. He even used extra starch to keep the collar in place!! THANK YOU NAVY!!!
Britt - I don't see a problem with the pet, as long as it remains out of the BEQ. There is a pet policy for base house (which is extremely close) which is no Pit bulls or Rottweilers.
It appears all other dogs would be ok since the base hotel is "pet friendly". Go here are read "pet policy" in the center of the screen.
Ok guys, I leave tomorrow to slowly make my way to San Antonio.
I know some of you have pm'd me and asked to take pictures of various things and people. This is now your last chance. Just let me know what you want a picture of, and I'd be happy to take it.
Katze...I would have to ask my son as to how long it takes and he has been in the field a lot so we haven't actually spoken to each other for almost 2 weeks. Wow, this FMTB stuff is intense.
Drama that would be great if you could ask. My son said he heard it could be up to 3 years. Gotta love the Navy. My son is going FMTB in NC. Getting there Sunday so any stories you can share would be great!
My son told me that he was informed that the leave isn't credited back until after he reaches his permamnent duty station and even then it is a low priority. He was told to expect it to take several months.
SInce he is going to C School and not straight to a permanent duty station, it would likely take over a year for my son to get the leave back. By then, he will have earned plenty of leave.
hello! My son just started his classes for A school at SA this week. Class#225?
Do you have any idea when they are slated to graduate? He heard it was supposed to be Dec 5th, but they started late and it may be after the holiday...kind of hard to plan...oh well!
And...any idea on Thanksgiving break for school when classes end and begin again?
txbaby - My nephew was trying to keep to long distant relationship alive and was flying home a minimum of 1 time per month. All dianevdb should need to do is have her sailor put in an "Out-of-Bounds" chit to allow him to go home. It isn't charged as leave and allow them to basically fly anywhere in the US.
The only thing he needs to remember is not to wait till the last flight of the day to get back. My nephew did this (which I told him not to). The flight had a mechanical and he couldn't get back to Pensacola. There were no other flight for the day.
So I told him, now you will be UA and will be seeing the "old man". I told him that he would probaby have to pay a $500 fine and have a black mark in his record.
or
He could fly to Panama City Florida and take a taxi to Pensacola which was 100 miles and $150 away. He choose the taxi. It was a "lesson learned" for him to not ever take the last flight of the day.
Katze...Check out FMTB East as that is Camp Lejeune where you son is going. Lots of good info. Still haven't heard from my son. The last text I got almost a week ago which said he couldn't talk as he was studying....
Rhonda - I have limited access to the computer since I'm going to the graduation this week in San Antonio. (ie all of my bookmarks are on my home computer). Once I get back (next weekend) I can let you know if they released them.
txbabydocmom....sounds really great! I got to talk with my son last night for the first time in 2 weeks (that FMTB training is really INTENSE!). He has (and most of his platoon have) a cold. I asked him what he was going to do this weekend. His response was "SLEEP"! Have a great weekend!
Holy crapola, I'm in San Antonio downtown at the River Walk. Our hotel might have been really cheap ($53) per night at the Sheraton, but the car parking is a whooping $32 per night (all the in-n-out's you want).
We decided to to park at the local parking garage that is $9 per day (24 hours) but once you leave, then you must pay that amount again (ie no in-n-out's). I want a cheap price with all the in-n-out's.
Heck, I was excited when I read this about San Antonio, but once you start reading it, they're talking about Dallas not San Antonio (even though that's the title). What's up with that? Why is there no in-n-outs in this dang city?
Craig...we ended up staying at the Red Roof Inn about 1/2 mile from downtown which allowed us to walk a lot (that was a goal for me since I wouldn't be going to the gym). It was $7/day to park with all of the in-n-outs you wanted in a 24 hour period.
Wish I liked burgers. I have heard that In-n-Out makes great burgers. There is one near where my mom lived in Sherman Oaks CA. Never ate there but everyone RAVED about it!
Diane......each class has an ALPO who assists during study times set up during the week. It is called MANDO. They have evening sessions. Have your sailor ask about this.
DramaSoul - Some of your pictures are in the discussion area above. I will post the others later, I need to get some sleep for tomorrows graduation....Hope this is what you wanted....
Lol in n out is the best! If you ever get a chance to go there make sure you get animal fries!
Even though I spent 11 days with my husband and came home last monday, I decided on thursday night I was going to drive by myself with our two dogs from los angeles to san antonio in one straight shot. Well I did it in 22 hours and surprised my husband:) we got to spend a fun long weekend together with our pups. The drive home has not been so ambitious... I decided to stop at fort bliss to spend the night at my cousins. Couch surfing at its finest! I hope everyone enjoyed spending time with their sailors!
My son just reported to A school on Saturday night, he is currently waiting for his class to form. Would anyone have information or a link to where I could find information about what the first few weeks of his HM school will entail? Is there any study-guides he could preview while waiting around? The Chief stated that the school loses a lot of candidates during the EMT phase, but my husband failed to find out when that phase actually occurs. I would appreciate any direction anyone could give me. Thanks!!
Mrs.SeniorChief...the first 5 weeks are EMT training which is the HARDEST part of their training, according to my son who is currently in FMTB at Camp Pendleton. They hit the ground running once they class up. My son had A&P study cards but that wasn't much help for EMT. Perhaps other moms here can talk about whether or not using a study guide prior to starting was helpful. They will be given an EMT textbook. The hardest part according to my son, was the wealth of information they had to learn. One test they had covered 9 chapters with only 50 questions. Since they pick orders the 6th week, there is a lot of pressure to do well on EMT.
@dianevdb, I copied it from Amazon. You can look inside the book from the Amazon site, but I have no idea yet if it is the right book they are going to use. I have been researching the internet all day for any study guides or flashcards.
Ladies...I am
Looking at my son's EMT book because it is here in his room. It is Emergency Care, 12th edition, Daniel Limmer and Michael O'Keefe are the authors. They may have changed since he graduated on July 2nd but that's the one he used. The one you have posted is their Corpsman manual.
yes, i bought the flash cards and the notes course for the EMT thinking it would help. So far, my son is swimming in the EMT book. he feels that there is SO much to take in and the course is VERY fast. He is studying allot and hopes it pays off. I think he had a test again today..Hes in 225
Craig
For those that are even thinking about going to San Antonio...
Expedia.com is doing a special for the 4 star Sheraton Gunter Hotel San Antonio which is on the River Walk for only $53 per night. That is extremely cheap!
Here is more info:
http://www.expedia.com/San-Antonio-Hotels-Sheraton-Gunter-Hotel-San...
Aug 28, 2012
OKCsuzieq
@Craig, I just went to the sight and the sale is for the week of 9/3-9/7 when I plugged in my sons graduation date the rate went up to $85 for Saturday and $75 for Monday and Tuesday do you think that is a good rate?
Aug 28, 2012
Craig
OKC - I just went there again and it shows $53.25 for 9-3 to 9-7. For the weekend it will go up, but that is really cheap anyways for the River Walk.
Here is what I did. I book this cheap rate through Expedia 9-3 to 9-7 on one reservation for $53.25 per night. (knowing I can cancel it up to 8-29 i think). Then the other nights I put on a separate reservation. This locked me in for that extremely cheap rate.
Then, I went to Sheraton.com and filed a Lowest price guarantee form (take about 2 minutes to fill out and you don't even need to book a room). They will then price match the Expedia's rate of $53.25 (for the 9-3 to 9-7) plus give you another 10%. So my room on the River Walk at a 4 star hotel is only $47.92 per night. Heck Motel 6 can't even get that low....
Once Sheraton sends you an email with the approval of the price match, then you cancel your Expedia booked room.
To me, make two reservations, that way they can compare apples-to-apples....
Aug 28, 2012
Craig
Here is the link to the price match guarantee:
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/index.html
and
Forgot to add the snap shot. Just click on it to make it bigger...
Aug 28, 2012
OKCsuzieq
@Craig thanks!
Aug 28, 2012
DramaSoul
anitabchef...I grew up driving the freeways of LA (and before some of those were there!) and SA was nuts! We almost ended up in Corpus Christi trying to get to Sea World!!!
Craig...any ideas about how to find a good hotel near Camp Pendleton? I don't use a lot of those websites for cheap hotels. Guess I need to start.
Aug 28, 2012
dianevdb
dear txbabydoc..THANK YOU for the very helpful info for the Xmas time off! So for the Tday...when is school off and back in?
Aug 28, 2012
Katze90210 (3/113)
Drama I think the recruiter is just putting pressure on him to get someone to enlist. He will get the credit even if he doesn't get someone to enlist. He is trying to think of places to go to hand out cards to get people to come in and talk to them. So far he went to two different malls.
Aug 28, 2012
DramaSoul
Katze...my son's recruiter was a little more laid back, I guess!
Aug 28, 2012
Katze90210 (3/113)
Craig, he is doing RAP now. Started on Monday and will finish Friday. He goes in at 9:00 and gets out around 15:00. I think they are just putting the pressure on so he gets someone. He said it is really slow in the office so he does paperwork and goes out to the malls to hand out cards. He had a girl come in today and answered all her questions. The First Class Officer on duty was so impressed he want to write him a review! Said he had to be with him for 4 monthes so he couldn't. I told him ask for a letter of recommendation. Those are always nice to have.But he likes doing it so its all good.
Aug 28, 2012
Craig
Robert/HM mom - I just talked to my daughter, I will not have any problem taking pictures of your daughter. Your daughter is one of 3 Navy sailors (out of over 100 sailors or military?) getting an award at the graduation. She will be going on stage twice, once for the award, and once to get her graduation certificate. She will be in the front row.
I know you must be feeling really proud! Congratulations!
Aug 28, 2012
Craig
Drama & NavyGirlz - I travel to a lot of fun places. The cheapest way I've found is to go bid on Hotwire or Priceline. You can find out pretty much which hotel you will stay and the price because of what other winning bidders say at this forum:
http://www.betterbidding.com/
Two of the non-bidding website I really like are:
www.bookit.com
and
www.dealbase.com (I really like this one)
Aug 28, 2012
Robert/HM Mom
Craig - Thank you so much for writing me back concerning graduation. Being a single parent since my daughter was a year old I have never, never missed any of her events, the PIR in GL was wonderful, but I have been out of work for 2 years and have a mother home in the last stage of dementia. I unfortunately had to make a very, very hard decision. My daughter understands as she and I lived with grandparents all her life. I am so very proud of her!!!! So I thank you from the bottom of my heart and good luck to your air force daughter, you have to be an extremely proud Dad. Thank you again and God Bless.
Aug 28, 2012
JillyBean
Hey everyone! Just a quick question, if my sailor gets a C school, will he get leave after A school or will he be expected to report right to C school? Or does it depend on the start of C school?
Also, how soon before graduation are orders given out?
Aug 29, 2012
JillyBean
txbabydocmom - Thanks for the info! :) My husband just finished the EMT portion, but they haven't gotten a list to pick orders yet. But I just spoke to him and he said they should get all the info next week. Thanks again for your help!
Aug 30, 2012
1proudmom
Jillybean, Just a heads up......they dont always get much time to make a decision. My sons class had 1 night.
Aug 30, 2012
Katze90210 (3/113)
Anyone know if RAP is a one time deal and how soon they will get credit for it? Also my son is going to NC to train with the Marines until Dec 21 then has to report to VA by Dec 23. Will he get time off for holidays? Does he put Chit into NC so he can come home first or VA so he can come home after he reports in?
Aug 30, 2012
DramaSoul
1proudmom...that's the truth. I got a text from my son and he asked me to respond ASAP. He had one night to make the decision.
Aug 30, 2012
Britt<3Corpsman Wife
Aug 30, 2012
1proudmom
Aug 30, 2012
1proudmom
Aug 30, 2012
DramaSoul
1proudmom...RAP duty or Recruiting Assistance Leave Program is a program where Sailors can work with their recruiters for 5 days. They get earned leave back by doing it. It can only be done between completion of school and prior to reporting to their first duty station while they are home on leave. My son did his RAP duty when he was home visiting before reporting to FMTB. He enjoyed doing it. His recruiter determined what uniform he would need to wear. It was a hoot to come downstairs one morning to see my son IRONING his NWU's. He had already polished his boots and had his hair cut the day before. He even used extra starch to keep the collar in place!! THANK YOU NAVY!!!
Aug 30, 2012
DramaSoul
Katze...see my post below about RAP duty.
Aug 30, 2012
Marcy ~ Corpsman Mom
Britt, I'm betting that visitors' pets are not allowed on base (liability, for one), but call METC and ask :)
Aug 30, 2012
Craig
Britt - I don't see a problem with the pet, as long as it remains out of the BEQ. There is a pet policy for base house (which is extremely close) which is no Pit bulls or Rottweilers.
It appears all other dogs would be ok since the base hotel is "pet friendly". Go here are read "pet policy" in the center of the screen.
http://www.ihgarmyhotels.com/pal/en/us/hotel/MFSHA
Aug 31, 2012
Katze90210 (3/113)
Aug 31, 2012
Katze90210 (3/113)
Aug 31, 2012
Craig
Ok guys, I leave tomorrow to slowly make my way to San Antonio.
I know some of you have pm'd me and asked to take pictures of various things and people. This is now your last chance. Just let me know what you want a picture of, and I'd be happy to take it.
Just pm me and describe what you want.
Aug 31, 2012
DramaSoul
Katze...I would have to ask my son as to how long it takes and he has been in the field a lot so we haven't actually spoken to each other for almost 2 weeks. Wow, this FMTB stuff is intense.
Aug 31, 2012
Katze90210 (3/113)
Drama that would be great if you could ask. My son said he heard it could be up to 3 years. Gotta love the Navy. My son is going FMTB in NC. Getting there Sunday so any stories you can share would be great!
Aug 31, 2012
Tally_Navy Dad
My son told me that he was informed that the leave isn't credited back until after he reaches his permamnent duty station and even then it is a low priority. He was told to expect it to take several months.
SInce he is going to C School and not straight to a permanent duty station, it would likely take over a year for my son to get the leave back. By then, he will have earned plenty of leave.
Aug 31, 2012
dianevdb
hello! My son just started his classes for A school at SA this week. Class#225?
Do you have any idea when they are slated to graduate? He heard it was supposed to be Dec 5th, but they started late and it may be after the holiday...kind of hard to plan...oh well!
And...any idea on Thanksgiving break for school when classes end and begin again?
Aug 31, 2012
Craig
txbaby - My nephew was trying to keep to long distant relationship alive and was flying home a minimum of 1 time per month. All dianevdb should need to do is have her sailor put in an "Out-of-Bounds" chit to allow him to go home. It isn't charged as leave and allow them to basically fly anywhere in the US.
The only thing he needs to remember is not to wait till the last flight of the day to get back. My nephew did this (which I told him not to). The flight had a mechanical and he couldn't get back to Pensacola. There were no other flight for the day.
So I told him, now you will be UA and will be seeing the "old man". I told him that he would probaby have to pay a $500 fine and have a black mark in his record.
or
He could fly to Panama City Florida and take a taxi to Pensacola which was 100 miles and $150 away. He choose the taxi. It was a "lesson learned" for him to not ever take the last flight of the day.
Aug 31, 2012
DramaSoul
Katze...Check out FMTB East as that is Camp Lejeune where you son is going. Lots of good info. Still haven't heard from my son. The last text I got almost a week ago which said he couldn't talk as he was studying....
Sep 1, 2012
Craig
Rhonda - I have limited access to the computer since I'm going to the graduation this week in San Antonio. (ie all of my bookmarks are on my home computer). Once I get back (next weekend) I can let you know if they released them.
Sep 1, 2012
DramaSoul
txbabydocmom....sounds really great! I got to talk with my son last night for the first time in 2 weeks (that FMTB training is really INTENSE!). He has (and most of his platoon have) a cold. I asked him what he was going to do this weekend. His response was "SLEEP"! Have a great weekend!
Sep 2, 2012
Craig
Holy crapola, I'm in San Antonio downtown at the River Walk. Our hotel might have been really cheap ($53) per night at the Sheraton, but the car parking is a whooping $32 per night (all the in-n-out's you want).
We decided to to park at the local parking garage that is $9 per day (24 hours) but once you leave, then you must pay that amount again (ie no in-n-out's). I want a cheap price with all the in-n-out's.
Heck, I was excited when I read this about San Antonio, but once you start reading it, they're talking about Dallas not San Antonio (even though that's the title). What's up with that? Why is there no in-n-outs in this dang city?
http://www.woai.com/entertainment/story/IN-N-OUT-Burger-comes-to-Te...
Sep 4, 2012
DramaSoul
Craig...we ended up staying at the Red Roof Inn about 1/2 mile from downtown which allowed us to walk a lot (that was a goal for me since I wouldn't be going to the gym). It was $7/day to park with all of the in-n-outs you wanted in a 24 hour period.
Wish I liked burgers. I have heard that In-n-Out makes great burgers. There is one near where my mom lived in Sherman Oaks CA. Never ate there but everyone RAVED about it!
Sep 4, 2012
dianevdb
im having trouble w my computer while trying to post...
are tutors allowed in A school?
Sep 4, 2012
lizinnj
Diane......each class has an ALPO who assists during study times set up during the week. It is called MANDO. They have evening sessions. Have your sailor ask about this.
Sep 4, 2012
Craig
DramaSoul - Some of your pictures are in the discussion area above. I will post the others later, I need to get some sleep for tomorrows graduation....Hope this is what you wanted....
Sep 4, 2012
Britt<3Corpsman Wife
Even though I spent 11 days with my husband and came home last monday, I decided on thursday night I was going to drive by myself with our two dogs from los angeles to san antonio in one straight shot. Well I did it in 22 hours and surprised my husband:) we got to spend a fun long weekend together with our pups. The drive home has not been so ambitious... I decided to stop at fort bliss to spend the night at my cousins. Couch surfing at its finest! I hope everyone enjoyed spending time with their sailors!
Sep 5, 2012
Mrs.SeniorChief
My son just reported to A school on Saturday night, he is currently waiting for his class to form. Would anyone have information or a link to where I could find information about what the first few weeks of his HM school will entail? Is there any study-guides he could preview while waiting around? The Chief stated that the school loses a lot of candidates during the EMT phase, but my husband failed to find out when that phase actually occurs. I would appreciate any direction anyone could give me. Thanks!!
Sep 5, 2012
DramaSoul
Mrs.SeniorChief...the first 5 weeks are EMT training which is the HARDEST part of their training, according to my son who is currently in FMTB at Camp Pendleton. They hit the ground running once they class up. My son had A&P study cards but that wasn't much help for EMT. Perhaps other moms here can talk about whether or not using a study guide prior to starting was helpful. They will be given an EMT textbook. The hardest part according to my son, was the wealth of information they had to learn. One test they had covered 9 chapters with only 50 questions. Since they pick orders the 6th week, there is a lot of pressure to do well on EMT.
Sep 5, 2012
Mrs.SeniorChief
@ DramaSoul, thanks very much. Do you know if this is the textbook or has it changed?
Sep 5, 2012
dianevdb
does this link work? Id LOVE to see it!
My son started his SA classes (EMT) last week..had to wait for class to fill. Would love to know more also!
Sep 5, 2012
Mrs.SeniorChief
@dianevdb, I copied it from Amazon. You can look inside the book from the Amazon site, but I have no idea yet if it is the right book they are going to use. I have been researching the internet all day for any study guides or flashcards.
Sep 5, 2012
DramaSoul
Looking at my son's EMT book because it is here in his room. It is Emergency Care, 12th edition, Daniel Limmer and Michael O'Keefe are the authors. They may have changed since he graduated on July 2nd but that's the one he used. The one you have posted is their Corpsman manual.
Sep 5, 2012
DramaSoul
They use both, BTW. My son still has his Corpsman manual with him at FMTB. Hope this helps!!
Sep 5, 2012
dianevdb
yes, i bought the flash cards and the notes course for the EMT thinking it would help. So far, my son is swimming in the EMT book. he feels that there is SO much to take in and the course is VERY fast. He is studying allot and hopes it pays off. I think he had a test again today..Hes in 225
Sep 5, 2012