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  • KellynKaty(corps-Mom)

    And they are NOT property of the UNITED STATES until they swear in !!! And they will leave the next day for Great Lakes!!

     

  • Craig

    Kelly - Actually, your correct that they aren't the property yet, however, if they change ANYTHING from their original MEPS medical screening until they leave, then they do need a waiver.  If they even get a tattoo, then they must get a waiver. 

    If they decide to get their wisdom teeth pulled, and they don't disclose it prior to leaving for boot camp, then they have the option of discharging the future sailor for fraudulent enlistment. 

    Truly, most sailor enjoy having their wisdom teeth taken out in boot camp. It allows them to get 2 days of much needed bed rest.  I would really trust a civilian dentist that works at Great Lake alot more since they pull 50 wisdom teeth a day, compared to a local civilian dentist that pulls one every 3 weeks. 

    Just my thoughts... 

  • joel's_rackie

    Nicely said Craig!!
  • William in Nashua

    Let the Navy dentist extract those teeth and let the Navy pay for it. Besides throwing your money away what kind of message is underneath that if you don't want Navy pulling their teeth? Don't trust Navy doctors? Your child's life will be in their hands during the next four to six years.
  • jacketfan24 (corpsman mom)

    My son had to wait for them to review his records from knee surgery his sophomore year before he could go to MEPS.  It took about 2 weeks, but he kept in touch with my son.  I don't know if that's normal or not.  I would suggest your son call him to find out if they ever got his records...the records were sent directly to my son's recruiter, who sent them on to MEPS.  He was calling my son after a few days to find out why he didn't have the records yet.  It's stressful for the boys to have to wait through this to find out if they qualify. 

    I don't know about the seabee job; my son wanted Corpsman, and he got the only one they had, but he had to take delayed enlistment.  He was hoping to join right after graduation, but has to wait until September.  Only a 6 month wait, and I'm so glad to have the summer with him. 

    Good luck with your son!

  • Mama C (PS E-Class 1202-1)

    Rachael (Sam's Mom) - I hear you on the waiting!  My son started talking to the Navy recruiter near the end of his Junior year.  By June or July of 2009, the recruiter made a home visit to answer our questions.  I had to do all the signing because B 's step-dad had not adopted him when we married.  Anyway, my son went to MEPS the first time in Oct. 2009 (his Senior year - QNJ qulaified, no job).  MEPS again in March 2010 (Reserve).  After he graduated in June 2010, he went to MEPS again (this time Active Nuke).  We waited 9 months before he went to Boot Camp! 

    He had only one wisdom tooth, so that came out at home.  The waiting AFTER graduation was almost unbearable.  He was anxious and so was I, but thankfully he got involved with our local Campus Life group at our middle schools and he audited a class at our local university (Biblical History and Literature).  He had time on his hands, but he put it to good use.

    The time will fly by - your son will want to spend time with his friends and that's ok.  Keep the lines of communication open with him and let him know you are so proud of him and tell him constantly that you love him, if you don't already do that!

    Begin now to work on clearing his room of unwanted items.  Start talking about some of this now.  We did this together - it was B's choice to get rid of things or put things in storage.  It will make life so much easier when he does leave, then you won't have to try and communicate what  you're wanting to do in his room.  We also packed an "A School" box.  Things he would want/need once he got to A School - clothes and stuff.  That way it's already done and can be shipped to him when he's ready for it.

    Gosh!  I could go on and on!  This is our experience and how we handled all of this.  Hope this helps to some degree.

    Good Luck to all who are waiting - it's worth it though!  Blessings!

  • Craig

    Hey ladies,

    I just posted this over in the Cryptology section because someone asked.  Thought I'd post it here to help your deppers out.  As you probably know, I run a deppers forum (NavyDEP.com), and one of my deppers made this Wallpaper for his computer so he could study while he was on my website.  I bet if you print this off, your depper will learn the rate (rank) structure and other items really quick.  Have them make it as their wallpaper on the computer.  It make it really easy to study. 

    Deppers_Cheat_Sheet1.jpg

  • Craig

    LadyHawk - Navy lingo is something special.  A lot of civilians would be offended. I truly don't know if their is a "sugarcoated" version here at N4M. 

     

    With that said, here is the true lingo.  IF YOU GET EASILY OFFENDED DON'T OPEN THIS LINK:

    http://www.hazegray.org/faq/slang1.htm

    http://www.hazegray.org/faq/slang2.htm

     

    On that note, if you want to see how well you think you may know the Navy, take the test I posted:

    http://www.navyformoms.com/group/pir07012011/forum/topics/youve-got...

  • joel's_rackie

    In Loving Memory
    On every soldier’s tombstone
    should be a message of honor, respect and love:
    "In loving memory
    of one who loved his country,
    who fought against evil
    to preserve what is right and true and good.
    In loving memory
    of one who is a cut above the rest of us,
    who had the surpassing courage,
    the uncommon strength,
    to do whatever had to be done,
    persevering through hardship and pain.
    In loving memory
    of one who was brave enough
    to give his life, his all,
    so that those he cared about
    would remain safe and free.
    In loving memory
    of a unique and treasured soldier
    who will never be forgotten."
    By Joanna Fuchs
  • monkeymind

    My son just developed a plantar's wart on the bottom of his foot or at least just noticed it. He is set to leave for bc in 15 days. I spoke with his recruiter and he recommended having it removed by a doctor as home remedies take too long. He said he would not need a waiver and didn't seem too concerned...I am. Does anyone have experience with this? My daughter is a runner and gets them often, she cuts them off. This is not an option. 6 months in DEP and now this. Left a message with the dermatologist since today is a holiday. Success stories.....PLEASE.
  • nyyoli

    hi all good thing i came n read about their wisdom teeth my son got his pulled lastwk..n i didnt know he had to tell his recruiter..n i asked my son ,,n my son  told me .yes mom i have to tell the recruiter..i didnt know ..thanks all for the info..

    bless u all

  • BluAnjel NoLongerNavyMom

    DEPPERS:  start running now!!  :)   My daughter got ASMO'd for a torn up knee from not being in shape before BC.  You don't wanna stay in BC any longer than you have to, so please, if you don't listen to your own mother (which mine didn't!!), please listen to me and start toning up now while you can do it slowly!!

    Good Luck!!

  • Calinavymom

    Hi All!

    Can someone give me an answer to this question? My husband and myself went with my son the day after he turned 17 in October of last year to the Recruiters office and signed paperwork for him. The Recruiter new he just turned 17. He went to MEPS a month later, signed his contract and received his ship date of July 6, 2011. The Recruiter told him in April that his ship date has been delayed because he won't be 18 within 90 days of starting bootcamp. This makes no sense to me if they had all of his paperwork when he went to MEPS and we signed for him the day after his 17th birthday. By the way his Recruiter said that they won"t cancel his July 6th date that he will have to show up then they will cancel it then give him a date for some time in late August. Thanks for any advice you have to offer.

  • bluesunshyne

    i don't have an answer, but have your or your son asked the recruiter if he could send out a DAR to get his ship date changed?
  • monkeymind

    Susan H-I just saw your post now. We actually had my son's wart lasered off. It was very small, the dermatologist said. I had my recruiter check with his superior and they said to remove it now so it could heal and he could go to bc. My son has absolutely no pain after the removal. Perhaps the person that was delayed had not had the wart removed? That's what we wanted to prevent from happening.
  • monkeymind

    Calvinavymom-
    Here is what the United States Code says about 17-year olds...notice there's no mention of the 90-day rule your recruiter mentioned? I'd check into this further I've "taught" my recruiter a lot during DEP. You'd be surprised what they don't know. I could research this more if he still says it's a rule. Good Luck.
    TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART II > CHAPTER 31 > § 505

    § 505. Regular components: qualifications, term, grade

    (a) The Secretary concerned may accept original enlistments in the Regular Army, Regular Navy, Regular Air Force, Regular Marine Corps, or Regular Coast Guard, as the case may be, of qualified, effective, and able-bodied persons who are not less than seventeen years of age nor more than forty-two years of age. However, no person under eighteen years of age may be originally enlisted without the written consent of his parent or guardian, if he has a parent or guardian entitled to his custody and control.
  • monkeymind

    I keep saying "my"recruiter...sorry...my SON'S recruiter-mea culpa.Gotta break the ties soon, huh?
  • Craig

    Catalina - Fight them with their own rule book.  Here is what the Navy recruiting manual (COMNAVCRUITCOMINST 1130.8H (para 010103) says...

  • blackie123

    According to my daughter's recruiter the 90 day rule came into effect just recently. She has to be within 90 days of her 18th bday before or after to go to boot camp because of the possibility of seeing combat. She got told 2 weeks before she was to ship. Had to give up her MC slot and everything. Her recruiter was very nice and gave her the option of remaining in the Navy or not. Resigned a contract for Nuke and has a new ship date of 12/17. He put in a DAR however to see if she can ship earlier.
  • William in Nashua

    Congratulations to your daughter on getting a nuke contract blackie123 that is a better deal than MC anyway Lol.  It requires much more work though.  That is the same week my son shipped to boot camp last year.  It will be mighty cold at Great Lakes during the winter let me tell you.

     

     

  • KathyMmom

    I have a question that maybe somebody can help with.  My son is DEP, with ship date of Aug 9.  He has been working out like crazy, is even training for a half marathon in July, and has lost quite a bit of weight (5'9,173), but one of the officers at his recruiting station told him that he must be down to 168 before the end of June or he will try to get my son released.  Apparently 168 is the 'right' weight for him for BC, otherwise he might have to do 'fat workouts'.  I think this is nonsense and it's  most likely this officers warped method of trying to encourage my son to be in shape - however, my son feels more demoralized than anything.  My son doesn't want me to interfere in any way, which I certainly respect, but my concern is that this guy could actually impact my sons future.  Is it possible for somebody to influence his contract and get him released because of weight - even though my son is certainly well below the maximum (186 lbs) requirement for his height?  Thanks so much for any input.

     

    And blacker123 - Congrats on the Nuke contract for your daughter - that is fabulous!  :-)

  • blackie123

    Thanks. Her father and I think she will be happy with it. She is very much math oriented. Of course she is disappointed because MC is where her passion lies and she did fight for the job when she went to MEPS. We just keep telling her that her art school will be paid for when she gets out.
  • William in Nashua

    KathyHMom you are correct:  the Navy standard for a male recruit to enlist who is 5'9"  (69 inches) tall  like your son, is 186 pounds.   That is 186, not 168.   I would be inclined to tell the recruiter to go pound sand.  Your son is already 13 pounds under the limit.  These recruiters need to realize that until you are on the Navy payroll on active duty, whatever they say is to be regarded as a "helpful suggestion" but no more than that.   No pay, no play should be the watchword here.

     

    I can see where the 168 pounds is coming from though, that is a BMI (body mass index) of 24.8 whereas your son's current weight of 173 puts him at BMI = 25.5.  Technically anything over 25 is "overweight" according to the BMI index, but Navy does NOT use BMI.  Their standard is 186 so that is the standard.

     

    As long as your son passes the PFT he is not going to do any fat workouts at boot camp those are for people who fail PFT.

     

    My son is 6'3" and entered boot camp at 178 and is the same weight today Lol except now is almost 6'4" still a growing boy haha.

     

  • monkeymind

    William...you're cracking me up. I know it's just your profile pic but I have this twisted visual of Dr. Spock with a sense of humor. That's how I see you. lol. Funny how we have to imagine what others look like.
  • William in Nashua

    Fascinating.

     

  • KathyMmom

    Thanks William.  I'm having the same inclination.  I would think they wouldn't be giving this kid so much grief - he scored 96 overall on his asvab and pretty much got to pick the job he wanted (SECF of all things, but it's not my decision, lol), and he really wants to do this.  I wanted him to go to college and all that goes with it, but that is not his choice.  So, wouldn't you want a young man who is choosing this rather than not having other options, one who is smart and will work hard to succeed?  I think the guy is crazy and it's just a show, but it makes me angry that he would make such a silly power play with my son.

     

    Live long and prosper.  :-)

  • MidwestMom

    Tell all your DEPs to run, run, run.  Be like Forrest Gump and just do it.  If you spend much time listening to the injuries in BC, many are due to shin splints and stress fractures which can set your recruit back weeks and months if they arrive at BC out of shape.  This is serious.  There is an SR my son ran into now at BC that has been there since Feb and if he's able to stay on target now, he still won't graduate until July.  Run, run, run!  BC isn't that much fun and they won't want to spend 5 months there if they can help it!  :)
  • duhhuh58 Ship 10/Div 267

    does anyone here know what a guy has to measure in at to get in?
  • Craig

    duhhuh - Here is the offical PRT manual.  Look at page 51 or so...

    Offical_Navy_PRT_Manual

  • duhhuh58 Ship 10/Div 267

    thanks

  • Paula (was Capricorna)

    My son signed a contract back in December, and I spent a lot of time reading on this group.  He is now in his 4th week at boot camp and doing well.  I haven't been back on this group since he started boot camp and I learned his PIR date.  However, I thought I would return and add this recommendation in the hopes that it helps some of you just beginning this journey:

    Copy postings and links that contain information you think you will need again or might be helpful.  Email them to yourself (with an appropriate subject line so you can find them again).  I collected a bunch of stuff that I refer back to all the time and it makes life SO much easier!  It's really hard to go back and find stuff in the postings because it gets buried.

    Navy4Moms is GREAT!

  • Paula (was Capricorna)

    Oh yeah: set up a separate email folder to hold all the Navy related emails and corral them there.
  • SonandSea

    My son signed his contract last November, graduated from high school on 5/28 and leaves for boot camp on 8/8. He is a future nuke, so he has a long school ahead of him (about 2 yrs) and a 6 year commitment. 

    I have a blog chronicling my journey becoming a Navy mom. Drop by if you have a minute. ♥ ~Dale

    http://sonandsea.blogspot.com/

  • duhhuh58 Ship 10/Div 267

    ok, Bettie C you have been hacked!  i've received 5 message emails from you today concerning making money texting and about satellite direct between here and the sailor rescue list
  • Furmangirl

    I have received the same e-mails messages from Betty C.plus one about jobs in the area!  I would like to block future mail notificaitions but it looks like I have to block mail from

    Navy For Moms a href="mailto:mail@navyformoms.ning.com">mail@navyformoms.ning.com>. Does that mean all mail form N4M will be blocked? 

  • bluesunshyne

    Is the female body fat max 33%? I'm going to meps Friday and I don't think I'm going to make weight but I'm 26% body fat
  • bobbie (ht mom)

    i also recieved mail about jobs in area from betty c dont know if changin my password will help but i did just in case
  • Lizzie's Mom Ship 03/Div 367

    bluesunshyne - My daughter passed MEPS on body fat measurement, not weight.  She was "over weight" by 3 lbs, but her bodyfat was good.  She is very muscular and slightly overweight.  I believe the amount is 33-35%.  It might depend on your height too.  But with 26% you should be fine.
  • bluesunshyne

    thanks! looks like I won't be going to MEPS on friday =( but at least i have more time to lose a couple more lbs
  • Calinavymom

    Hi Ladies!

    I have a question...My son is scheduled to leave for bootcamp on Nov 22nd and he just finished physical therapy for tightened hamstring that he got while playing baseball for school. They want his medical records now pertaining to the injury. Nothing is tore or required meds, just a lot of streching. Is there something that I should be asking his physician other than just the medical records. I know sometimes the diagonsis codes don't actually match the illness or injury.

  • jacketfan24 (corpsman mom)

    They asked for my son's medical records before they would let him go to MEPS because of a surgery on his knee from playing high school football.  They just want to make sure that the injury is really nothing that would keep him from performing in the Navy...and when you say it's okay that it really is.  They reviewed his records and said he was fine, and if your son really is, I don't think it should be a problem. 

    Good luck with your son.  Mine leaves Sept. 6. 

  • Micaela (AO Wife)

    Hello,

    I am new to this group, or to the navy life all together I should say. My husband leaves for BC Aug 2nd. and I am a little confused on somethings...I know he is very limited to items he can bring and I know that there are things he will need to purchase. can someone clarify the whole "paycheck" thing again for me? I know he will need to purchase his uniform and etc. my concern is that there are things that need to be paid for while he is not here i.e me for example, his car, insurance etc....all things that he has been paying in normal civilian life. So I am a little concerned because from what I can see, out of his paycheck most will go to uniform and toiletries and such? maybe I am wrong. If someone could help me with this I would greatly appreciate it.

     

    Thank You :)

  • bobbie (ht mom)

    i dont know but my son told me he will be able to access his pay after pr i was told and have read that 200 to 400.00 would be deducted ....im not sure but i tried lol good luck
  • jacketfan24 (corpsman mom)

    My son doesn't have any expenses other than his cell phone, so he doesn't have to deal with this himself, but I have seen others post that the recruit needs to give a power of attourney to someone (usually a parent, but can be a future wife) who is authorized to take care of any issues that come up while he is gone.  I know they will set up direct deposit, but the first paychecks are supposed to be pretty low because of all the expenses, so as a mother, I would advise him to make sure he has enough money set aside for those expenses before he leaves so that he doesn't need to worry about them, and arrange for someone to make the payments for him or set up a direct payment through his bank (mine has bill pay and you can set up regular payments for things like car payments, etc.) That way he doesn't get behind on anything.  Someone who has been through it already can probably give more specific advice, but that is what I would recommend based on what I have read since I've been on here.  Hope it helps and good luck!

     

  • Micaela (AO Wife)

    Thank You all :)
  • navymommo

    Please don't forget to send an activated prepaid phone card with your depper when he/she leaves.  Make sure that they know how to use the card and have practiced at least once.  There is an AT&T 500 minute card at Walmart for $25.00.  Remember that may sound like alot of time, but AT&T takes a chunk of minutes to connect.
  • joel's_rackie

    1 Chronicles 29:11-13(KJV)
    "Yours, O LORD, is the greatness and the power
    and the glory and the majesty and the splendor,
    for everything in heaven and earth is yours.
    Yours, O LORD, is the kingdom;
    you are exalted as head over all.

    Wealth and honor come from you;
    you are the ruler of all things.
    In your hands are strength and power
    to exalt and give strength to all.

    Now, our God, we give you thanks,
    and praise your glorious name."

    Good evening everyone.. We always have to count our blessings: here's mine for this WONDERFUL day:

    1. Daddy Roel my father-in-law was granted a tourist visa today!

    2. Last night after working at the hospital(7pm-3am shift) I drove to Naval Air Station-Lemoore (for 4 hours), I arrived safely there and back. Was very nervous especially on the way there since it's a really dark and winding road (Pacheco Pass and I-5). I prayed and sing praises the whole way, glad to have K-LOVE radio.

    3. I was able to get my military ID..finally..

    4. I went to NFCU to "fix" the account and now I have access to it! I prayed so hard that I'd be able to talk to someone who would help me. Brenda (bank clerk) was really helpful and very patient to answer all my question and needs. She made everything so effortless!
    5. Meeting all of you helpful ladies here in N4M who help me navigate to this new lifestyle. (Amanda, thanks for the form!)
    6. My GPS broke down and I was glad that my co-worker Dolores printed out directions just in case.. I got there and back safe.


    7. All the helpful people in the NAS. Who was patient to me who is so bad with directions. I met an officer who handed me a detailed map of the area and even highlighted the DSP, NFCU, starbucks, gas station and how to get to I-5.


    8. The icing in the cake, seeing my husband in the picture! (Angel whose husband is in the same ship12/div 224 won the Tuesday trivia on the facebook page of RTC.

    9. For all of you here, thank you so much for the support and prayers.

    Remember, with Jesus Christ everything is possible! God's mercy and blessings to to all of us, and our families!
  • joel's_rackie

    My husband is still in BC, his PIR is this July 8th (ship12/div224). My in laws are attending his PIR all the way from the Philippines!
  • skell456 (AO wife)

    Hello everyone.  I just wanted to lend a helping hand.  My husband and I went through all of this just months ago.  He just graduated boot camp May 26th 2011.  We started this process July of 2010.  I am here to say that it may be a long road, but it is well worth the walk.  If you guys have any questions feel free to ask I may not have all the answers, but I will try my best.  Just send me a message.  Good luck to all of you and please tell your future SR's to keep their heads up.

  • skell456 (AO wife)

    Micaela (Future AO Wife) I am also a AO wife.  We just went through all of this.  Pay checks are super hard to figure out.  They get an allowence for uniforms that is put in and taken back out of the check.  Don't bother taking anything everything my husband took was sent back and they have to pay for that.  They give you all you need there.  Some guys wore crap clothes and donated them so they wouldn't have anything to send back.  We were good while he was gone.  Just save up a little for just in case.  Good Luck to you