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I am new to N4moms. My son was sworn in in May but my son is not scheduled to leave for bc until August 2012. He wants to put his request in at the end of September - but he believes that if he is called at a time that he is not ready than this will impact wether or not he will get another chance if another opening occurs. Is that something that is held against a recruit? He is supposed to go into the CT program after bc. Also, is the reason bc is so far out because of the program he is scheduled for or are there other factors involved?

I hope that I am posting this in the right place - please redirect me if Iam wrong. (I also posted this within one of the dicussion forums - but when I looked at it - it was in 2009 area - so I am reposting it here)

Thanks for any advice.

tat4rc

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The USN can only train so many people at a certain time, so they can't just take everyone in when they (the person wanting to join) wants in.  Yes...he will have to wait to leave for bootcamp.  He can put in a DAR, which is a request to try and leave early, but they don't happen all the time.  If the request is approved for him to leave early and he declines he just leaves at his scheduled time for bootcamp.

 

 

Thank you so much for such a quick response.  It just seemed odd to me that in looking at the posts for others in the CT program that the turn around time is more like 2-3 months.  Eight just seemed a bit long.  I gather by your note that if his request is approved to leave early - the Navy can't force him to leave to take a different position - correct?
that is correct, he can't be forced to leave early or take a different job, IF he has a contract already with a ship date.
My boyfriends wait was 11 months before he left. 

Hey everyone,  My son is still in DEP and has been working towards being able to successfully pass his IFA.  He and I are both worried that he will not pass the 1.5 mile part.  Does anyone know what would happen then?  RC believes he has to re-apply for his job again and start all over.  He is supposed to be in CTI after BC.  Will he go to BC as scheduled and continue to work or in or do you have to pass before BC? 

Why don't you try to get him a personal trainer? The time on the runs aren't that bad, so w a little training, he might do just fine. Is he a good swimmer, by any chance?

I should have mentioned that for Christmas I purchased my son a club membership for 3 months and a weekly personal trainer..RC has been building up his time at the gym - he now is twice a day (5 days a week) and I go with him at least 1 time a day.  However, he is almost 29 and unfortunately since high school has been pretty sedimentary.  I know he is very focused and working hard to get to the minimum criteria. The move to a club atmosphere was due to through MEPS he was working out with teenagers that wanted to be SEALS - and he kept getting injured.  I would just like to know what will happen if he doesn't pass the test. 

I have never heard of anyone having to pass the PFA before boot camp. In fact, I understand about 40 percent of them fail the first one in boot camp.

It's the final PFA in boot camp that he must pass.

Still, as BunkerQB says, there's no reason he can't train now. In fact, I would highly recommend it. BC is a lot less stressful if you don't have that test hanging over your head as an obstacle.

The trick to running distance is to train by running distances. IF your son runs 2 miles three times a week, he will do just fine.

Recently, a 51 year old woman ( known as Grambo) completed Army bootcamp and did so with her company's second highest PT score. She accomplished by shedding 30 pounds and training.

I am assuming you can see my reply to BunkerQB.  Just this week I told my son that he needs to run the 1.5 daily regardless of his weight training with his trainer.  His trainer has him working weights and bouncing the laps intermittently.  But he never ended with getting to 1.5 any day - and I also felt that he needs to run/walk/crawl the 1.5 in its entirety - to get a "feel" for what he is up against.  I have always had fitness as part of my life - but my kids have always been busy and healthy via sports.  As I got older I let it go (for the most part) and my son has never gone through the regiment of "working out in a club atmosphere" The closest he came was wrestling as a Freshman in HS.

CaptainFatso do you know if his recruiter is just trying to motivate RC by telling him that he could loose his slot - or is it real?  I wouldn't redirect the recruiter's efforts - as I believe RC has a big physical challenge ahead of him and that is why I paid for his gym membership/trainer and I go with him 5-6 times per week.  But it would help me cope if I knew how it really worked.  Any insight.  My son is 5.9 inches and weighs 163 he is at 27.5 BMI but I don't know what body fat % he is at.  He has never been a runner.  He was a junior life guard when he was 16 and swims OK - but has never done continuous laps to meet a goal.

In addition to be a Navy vet, I've coached some nationally ranked fastpitch youth softball teams.

Every once in a while, a parent would ask me what they could do for their twelve year old kid. My response to them is pretty much as it is to you as parent of a twenty nine year old young man... you can do nothing. This is entirely up to him. Either he really wants it or he doesn't.

I pretty much guarantee that if his running 1.5 miles was the difference between you getting a life saving medical treatment or not, he'd find a way to make it happen. That's because you matter to him.

If the Navy matters to him, he'll make it happen. A young man who is 5'9" and only ways 163 is not overweight and the standard for the 1.5 mile run is not really all that tough.

Either he trains hard now or he will have to hope that he can close the gap during boot camp with a gazillion other things going on.

to CaptainFatso

Thanks for your support.  You are right.  I believe the Navy does matter to him and he does have a positive attitude.  We will keep on down the path and enjoy the small gains along the way because they all add up.  He will  get there.  Tonight we are running and then swimming.  He has his trainer in the morning.

Thanks again.

tatmom...

My understanding is, unless he is planning to go spec ops, he won't be tested until week 3 of boot camp. Then again, right before graduation. If he is struggling to make time at the end of boot camp, the RDCs' will do all they can to help the recruit make the time, including running along side of him "encouraging" him to speed up.

As to having to make the required time, yes he will. It's not like Little League where they give you a trophy for trying.

FWIW, my son struggled with running as well. Failed miserably at the 3 week mark. However, he did pass with plenty or time to spare in the end.

It is possible if he doesn't qualify, they will give him one last shot on the final friday. However, he would miss graduation with his division, and finish up and move on without the ceremony.

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