Info please

[epass]

My daughter has a contract with the navy and is due to leave in march...can she break this contract with out repercussions?

[BR549]

I'm pretty sure she can but she probably won't ever get to come back.

[Craig]

epass - There are very little repercussions. She will probably never be able to come back into the Navy without waivers because of being "wishy-washy", but there are 100's others behind her to accept that job. If she has a valid reason, the Navy may even support it. Example, if she said she decided to go college instead, and come out as a Naval Officer, then the Navy might fully support that. All she needs to do is submit a DEP discharge chit. She really doesn't have to explain anything. The appoval doesn't happens quick, it usually doesn't happen until the date of ship. This prevents her of going to other services to enlist. If the ship date comes without the approval, then she just doesn't go. Out of respect, she should continue to let the recruiter know that she will not ship when the time comes.  This allows the recuiter not to waste any time looking for her, thinking she may have forgotten. 

She needs to understand alot of people will be ticked. They spent alot of time putting together a package, going through medical, and signing many forms. They will tell her, "you already swore in and signed a contract and swore allegiance to the United States. However, this is a non-binding contract for a couple of reasons. First off is the fact that we are an all volunteer force, a decision has been made that it would be against the premise of an all volunteer force to force anyone to go. Secondly - no pay nor benefits have yet been realized. There has been talk about actually paying a stipended to those in the DEP to make the contract more solid if brought to court but refer to reason one as to why it didn't go any further.

If anyone gives her the "but she swore, she has to honor that contract", she should ask if they or their parents are divorce, then ask them "But didn't you swear in front of God, that you would love your wife or husband till death, but you got a divorce?". That shuts them up every time. Yes, they will threaten her, saying you will get a "dishonorable discharge". If they do, ask them when the last time that happen (FYI, a dishonorable discharge can only be given at a General Court Martial).  If they said it just happen recently, then tell them this is the reason she doesn't want to go in, it's because they are not upholding the Navy Core Values. What does this mean? It means "I will abide by an uncompromising code of integrity, taking full responsibility for my actions and keeping my word. I will conduct myself in the highest ethical manner in relationships with seniors; peers and subordinates. I will be honest and truthful in my dealings within and outside the Department of the Navy. I will fulfill my legal and ethical responsibilities in my public and personal life." Obviously, they're not upholding the values by lying to her with these threats.... People will say she isn't either.  But remember, she hasn't been trained on what the Navy Core Values are. 

Believe me, I am as Pro-Navy as they come. However, I would not want someone who doesn't want to be in the Navy serving next to my son. I want whoever that person is, to be fully committed to the Navy, and to protect my son, as he would protect them. 

So there you are....  Hope this helps....

[epass]

Thanks for all the info. I am personally hoping she follows through.  She is frustated because the physical demands of the area that she wants to go into. My thought....go and even if it is not the area you would like, it is 6 years, a posibility to see more of the world and the education is paid for. Again Thanks 

[Craig]

epass - I help alot of deppers.  Many of them get "Buyer remorse".  They are scared of the future because they have always had people helping them with the path to the future. 

What your daughter needs to do is join a Navy deppers forum, much like you joined this forum.  What happens is the deppers just ping off of each other and they work through all this scared problems together.  How do I know this?  It's because I actually own two Navy web forums.  I have for many years.   The deppers I helped to get past the bootcamp stuff two years ago are now the ones that help the new depper coming up the pipeline now.  Deppers can totally hear and understand active duty sailors that we're in their same footsteps just a year or two later. 

 

 No kid ever wants to hear stuff from their parents, because parents don't know anything.  That's what I thought when I was 18 too.  Geez, I trusted my friends more than my parents.  Little did I know, I had to suck it up later when I realized that my parents were correct.  But kids fail to understand that now.....Just give them time....

 

Have your daughter come on over to www.NavyDEP.com.  I'm sure we can change her focus... we see this all the time....

 

[epass]

Thanks,

Actually she is 22 and been supporting herself for a couple of years though she does still think I have no clue. She told me that she was going to talk to her chief this week about her concerns. I think that it is hitting both of us that she only has

about 6 weeks till she leaves. I will give her your website.

Thanks for all the info.

 

[skell456 (AO wife)]

My husband also just joined and leaves in March.  I was so scared after he actually swore in.  I felt as if it was not real until that very moment.  I have wanted him to back out several times since, but the more I research and get to know people who are in the same situation the more I realize how important this really is. I no longer want him to back out.  He is doing an amazing job training and I am so proud of him.  It takes special people to want to do this sort of thing.  It does not make her a bad person for having second thoughts at all.  I would just suggest to her to make sure that she has researched everything all the pros and cons before she makes a final decision.  I think that if she decides to stay she will be very happy with that decision.  I would never want to think of the "what if's" We have made friends on Facebook as well.  My husband has made several friends that are leaving same day as he does and that makes him even more excited to go.  It is a hard decision anyway you look at it, but it does make it easier when you have friends and support groups.  When does she leave?  My husband leaves March 29th and has a woman in his depper group that leaves the same day I am sure she would love a new friend.  Good Luck!!!!!!

[Craig]

I tell you, if you want to get their blood pumping, have them watch this video...

It's a must see video!!!  The ending is dead on perfect!  Go Navy!!

It's not enjoyable, It's RIVETING! 

[mistydawn_67]

Thanks Craig.....helps a bunch.  I am disappointed with his decision, but he is planning on going to school and wrestling instead.  Better get me another hair coloring appointment lol

 

 

 

[ladyvader63]

Wow Craig!! This was recommended to me by another member and this is EXACTLY what I needed. My depper has a ship date of 7/22/14 and has been having some MAJOR anxiety. I'm going to pass along the website you suggested (navydep.com) and pray. Thank you!!

[ladyvader63]

One more thing - you mentioned a link to a video, is it still available? If yes, can you share it again?

Thanks!!