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Kicked out of A school! Help
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Permalink Reply by lemonelephant on
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Sometimes the instructors at an "A" School will recommend that a student be placed in the next class and begin training again, but sometimes the recommendation is that the student not continue in the program. If the decision is that he not continue in the Nuke program, and that's what it sounds like, then he will speak with a Career Counselor and get a new contract for a different rating or one of the PACT programs and then head off to training. He will have less time in Holding than some who just arrived at the next "A" School or training facility because he will fill the next available seat in a class (at least most schools do that).
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It depends on if his advancement was solely based on his Nuke contract or if he qualified for it based on other factors. He MAY be able to keep the rate, but it is possible that he would be moved back to E-1 if the advancement was based on his Nuke contract. If he has been in the Navy 9 months, then he would stay E-2 since advancement to E-2 is based on 9 months Time in Rate (TIR) for those moving up from E-1.
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I would think that he has been in the Navy at least 9 months since he was in SC when you joined in April and his time began on the day that he was sworn in on the way to the RTC.
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Permalink Reply by BunkerQB on
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- Not being able to complete the Nuke program does NOT mean he is not a worthy sailor. It just means he won't be able to continue with the Nuke program. If you post a comment in the Nuke Moms group (clickable link), there are a number of members with sons/daughters who were dropped from the Nuke Program. Lemonelephant's comment applies.
- They try their best to help the sailor get thru the program. Sometimes it's just not a good fit. It's OK. Right this moment he is very upset. These guys are some of the smartest in the Navy, they do not like to fail. Please help him see that he shouldn't consider himself a failure because there are so many other worthwhile ratings for him to pursue. He'll discover he can be excellent in many areas. If he was accepted in the Nuke Program, he probably scored at least 95 on his ASVAB. REMEMBER THIS. REMIND HIM OF THIS.
- I don't know the process of finding another job - ask in the Nuke Moms group. I believe one member's son went into IT and the last I heard, he was sad to leave the program but very, very happy in his current job.
- I know another mom whose son is on a sub. He qualified to be in the Nuke Program. He turned it down cold. Don't remember his rating but I could find out for you.
- Many loved ones (parents, wives, fiancees) get carried away because of the bonus offered to nukes. The program is tough and life on a sub or carrier as a nuke is tough as well.
- He can and he will regroup. When he calms down, you can ask him to try and figure out what areas he had problems with - self assessment - learn from his mistakes.
- He is young and this is just one bump along the road. Sometimes trying too hard has the adverse effect. Let him regroup.
- Tell him you believe in him and will be supportive no matter what the rating is. If his family gives him a hard time, tell them to buzz off. You don't need negative people around.
- Make sure he stays with something technical.
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When my ex-sailor was a freshmen in high school, he got a D in advance math. He dropped out and went back to regular old math (can not remember whether it was algebra or geometry). His teacher and we couldn't figure out why he was doing so poorly. Dropping out allowed him to relax. Well, he scored a perfect 800 in the math section on his SAT. He went on to get a degree (graduated with honors) in electrical engineering from a highly ranked university with an excellent engineering school. He became a nuke officer (and was nominated for junior officer of the year). He finished his commitment two years ago and is doing excellently in the civilian world.
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