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MEPs and withholding information
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Permalink Reply by Joanie Tyler's Mom(133 Bees) on
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I believe you should come foward with this. It's very possible you could get a waiver, not definitely, but possibly. If your recruiter won't bring this forward now, then when you go to MEPS, you will have one last chance, the Moment of Truth, where you can tell about this. This will probably slow down your entry, since you would most likely need a waiver. But if you get to bootcamp and experience trouble with asthma and they get your medical records, you could be discharged for not telling all about your medical history. Get with your recruiter and see what can be done as soon as possible. Hope things work out well for you. Thanks for being willing to serve.
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Permalink Reply by Craig on
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Lynn,
The big thing is if you have symptoms after age 13. If you have, you are a PDQ (Permanently
Disqualified). Here is the official rule:
d. Asthma (493), including reactive airway disease, exercise-induced bronchospasm or asthmatic bronchitis, reliably diagnosed and symptomatic after the 13th birthday, is disqualifying. Reliable diagnostic criteria may include any of the following elements: substantiated history of cough, wheeze, chest tightness, and/or dyspnea that persists or recurs over a prolonged period of time, generally more than 12 months.
However, most of us aren't doctors here, and it is up to MEPS to determine you will be PDQ, or if they will clear you or recommend a waiver. If it was under 13, then obtain copies of your medical records related to the asthma diagnosis, and provide them to MEPS.
If you happen to decide not to say anything, and the Navy finds out, they will probably be given an administrative discharge for fraudulent entry, with a Reenlistment Eligibility (RE) code of "4". This discharge will not be for asthma, it will be for fraudulent enlistment. The fraudulent entry discharge will follow you for the rest of his life. Your hopes of other federal/state jobs are in jeopardy.
Your biggest challenge, if you get a waiver, will probably be the gas chamber. Even healthy, non-asthmatic people hate it, for good reason. For those with asthma, it can be lethal. Literally. These rules are for YOUR safety. It would be awful for you to not have your inhaler, need it, and end up with serious injuries. If you wants to help and serve, look into things like DOD civilian jobs, the job corps, peace corps, etc.
The bottom-line -
If you were my kid, I would have two game plans:
If I knew I had Asthma after the age 13, it would submit a letter to the CO requesting a DEP discharge. If they want to know a reason, tell them you decided to go back to college and hopefully become a Navy Officer. Will they be ticked? You bet, but you also don't have a medical condition that would be now documented by the government hanging around. By saying you want to be a Navy officer you truly aren't telling a lie, because you're hoping by then they will change the rules to allow people with Asthma to enlist, but you don't need to say that. Remember, they have 100's waiting in line to take your position. So, I bet they truly won't care.
If you had it below 13, then I would contact the Zone supervisor and tell them you cannot live a lie. You've read your Navy DEP book and you will not start your Navy career by not upholding the Navy Core Values. What does this mean?
It means "I will abide by an uncompromising code of integrity, taking full responsibility for my actions and keeping my word. I will conduct myself in the highest ethical manner in relationships with seniors; peers and subordinates. I will be honest and truthful in my dealings within and outside the Department of the Navy. I will fulfill my legal and ethical responsibilities in my public and personal life."
Tell the Zone sup about the recruiter, and that you would like to go to MEPS again, and would like to talk to a doctor so you can live the life and code of the Navy.
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