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Comment by Helomom on August 20, 2016 at 1:57pm

Myvampress - I ran this past my son, who is currently in command of a squadron. Here's the response:

DS: Tough one... I assume not same command. If in the same command, definitely not. Different command it just isn't good practice. But family makes its tough. Preexisting relationships tend to be viewed less restrictively.

Me: Hmm. Who would they run this thru?

DS: Their chain of command.

DS: That's who'd make the call anyway.

DS: If it was considered fraternization, their commands would have to prosecute it. So I'd ask them before doing it.

So that's his opinion.

Comment by ITgal on August 20, 2016 at 12:03pm

myvampress, here's a link to an explanation of the fraternization policy written in layman's terms.  https://www.thebalance.com/navy-fraternization-policies-3354650

My own thought are that it could put both of them in potentially awkward situations when dealing with their own friends/peers socially, perhaps limiting their ability to host their friends at their own home.  I'm sure your son would be advised to at least discuss it with his command, and maybe he doesn't want to do that?  I know it's difficult for them as they move down this new path, with all the stress it entails, to be what they perceive as the one to 'make waves'.

Even though we see them as our boys, our sons are now officers in the US Navy and the Navy both trusts and expects them to take care of themselves, their jobs and the people they serve with.  I would really caution you against contacting any Naval department without your son's OK.  The last thing he wants is for anyone to get the impression he's not 'squared away'.

Ask away on this site - you'll get lots of help here!

Comment by myvampress on August 19, 2016 at 11:12pm

I have a question that hopefully someone can answer. I called Navy Affairs this morning about it and they basically told me "You realize you called Navy Affairs right?" Anyways, I have a son who is an Officer and a stepson who is Enlisted, they both may end up being stationed in the same city. My son wants to rent a beach house when he arrives and my stepson said he would like to live with him and they be room mates but my son said he does not believe they can live together even though they are related due to fratinization. Is this true?

Comment by M's mom on August 16, 2016 at 8:40pm

Welcome helenp!  If you haven't already, join the group "Naval Aviation" on this site for moms of flyers.

Your son will enjoy Whidbey Island.  My son & wife were there for two years.   You and Anna both will have to make plans to visit while your loved ones are there.  The island itself is beautiful, but lots of fun stuff to do in Seattle, if you've never been.

Comment by helenp on August 16, 2016 at 7:46pm

Anna,
5th deployment! That's crazy. My son doesn't know his Whidby Squadron yet. He literally just arrived in Jacksonville. The movers bring his furniture tomorrow. So it will be 8-12 months before he goes to Whidby, depending on how much flying time he gets during P8 training. He actually hopes it's the longer time frame so that his fiance could stay in her first nursing job a year before leaving. Where is your daughter?

Comment by Anna on August 16, 2016 at 7:02pm

helenp,

What squadron will your son be going to?  My son is going to be at Whidbey after he gets back from his 5th deployment.  He's not an officer - his younger sister is!!!  Family fun there!!!  But he is a career sailor tho!

Comment by helenp on August 16, 2016 at 2:56pm

I just found this group! My DS had his Winging at Corpus Christi in June and has just reported to NAS Jacksonville to train on the P3 (after he goes to SERE). Then he will be stationed at Whidby Island. His fiance just started her first job as a nurse and they have been living in an empty apt for a week waiting for the movers. 

Comment by M's mom on July 11, 2016 at 10:24pm

Diane2557:   The Navy is a small world!    MY son was also at Whidbey Island from July 2013 to July 2015. He was an intelligence officer with a squadron of EA-18G's,  --squadron VAQ-139, the "Cougars."   They all were deployed for 10 mos. 2014-15 on the USS Carl Vinson.  I'll bet my son has met your son, because he knew some Growler pilots from other squadrons at Whidbey!  

Now son & his wife are at Yokota, about 35 miles from Tokyo.  It's an Air Force base, but has other service personnel there also.  He does "something" intel-related at HQ of the Joint US Forces in Japan.  (We don't ask and he doesn't tell---loose lips sink ships! )     They love Japan so far.  Hubby & I hope to visit them next summer, a 15-hr flight from here in the Midwest!  Ugh!    Hope you get a chance to visit your son & family at Atsugi.

Comment by M's mom on July 11, 2016 at 9:57pm

Chris:  How lucky for you that you get to see your son so often because he is stationed so close to home!   Mine is presently "OCONUS" in Japan.  With the 13-hr time difference, we have to think before we call him.  If we want to call at 1900 hrs OUR time, that is 0800 in the morning THE NEXT DAY in Japan!   He has some kind of phone service through his computer, so it doesn't cost us long distance charges to call him.  We sometimes Skype so we can see him and his wife, but it's not as nice as actually being with them (&hugs,) so enjoy your son being so close!

Comment by Chris on July 11, 2016 at 8:18am

M's Mom.  My son was assigned the F/A -18C Hornet. "C" Charlie -- single seat, though he's flown the two seat variant also -- the F/A -18D, "D" Delta.

OCONUS -- Outside the Continental United States.

Cheers!

I see my son once or twice a week.  I've seen him more in the last three months (since he's been at Oceana) than I have in the last ten years combined! 

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