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Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit - America's Navy and also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:



**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  


RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.


Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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nukenavymamabear replied to Lancertrackmom's discussion 'A school graduation' in the group NUKE moms
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Sheila Clark

Undesignated...What's Up With That?


Undesignated...What's Up With That?

A place for Moms of Undesignated Sailors to share concerns and support each other.

Members: 458
Latest Activity: Jul 17, 2022

Discussion Forum

Nothing Wrong with Undesignated Sailor!

Started by David B. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 55 Replies

So I am freaking out a bit!

Started by tracemc. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 4 Replies

Undes 2017

Started by Melissagonavy. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 8 Replies

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Comment by CrackerjackMom on March 1, 2009 at 2:34pm
Angie thanks so much for answering my questions and be avalible to us.
Comment by CrackerjackMom on February 26, 2009 at 2:23pm
It's like I told my daughter, her trials and adventures on the way to becoming Admiral will make a great story. LOL!!
Comment by CrackerjackMom on February 22, 2009 at 2:19pm
Thanks Hoppi, that's what my daughter is in the process of doing in March.
This great to have on here. I'm sure there will be many questions for you.
Comment by CrackerjackMom on February 21, 2009 at 1:18am
Someone just posted this on another Navy board that I'm on.

Fleet Master Chief (SW/AW) Tom Howard has been selected by Adm. Jonathan Greenert to be the next senior enlisted Sailor at Fleet Forces Command in Norfolk, Va., according to the command.

Howard, a former boatswain’s mate and battleship Sailor, is Pacific Fleet’s top master chief. In December, he began filling a wider role with both fleets after Rick West left Fleet Forces to become the master chief petty officer of the Navy. The post at Fleet Forces is unofficially considered the No. 2 enlisted job in the Navy.

Howard will remain in Pearl Harbor until his successor is named and takes the helm, probably around May.

“As a fleet master chief, I have engaged those force master chiefs on the East Coast already, and I am staying connected even as I transition into this new [role] — it’s an honor to get this opportunity,” he said. “I also look forward to continuing to work as a member of MCPON West’s leadership mess, just as he and I have been doing for a few years now.”

Howard, a 27-year veteran, joined the Navy in 1981 after graduating from high school in Toledo, Ohio. Striking for boatswain’s mate onboard the cruiser Belknap, he rose through the ranks to become a master chief boatswain’s mate during a succession of underway commands including the battleship Missouri, Carrier Group 4 and the aircraft carrier John C. Stennis.

But his Navy career hasn’t always been rosy.

After boot camp in Great Lakes, Ill., he started training to be an electronics technician but was kicked out of training for having a “nonmilitary attitude,” he said.

Howard was sent as a nondesignated seaman to the Belknap, where he came under the wing of Chief Boatswain’s Mate Jim Howard — no relation — who helped the younger Howard strike for boatswain’s mate and get his military career on track.

“I admired him greatly,” Howard said. “It was his professionalism that really had an impact on me.”

Five years later, as a second class boatswain’s mate, he was diagnosed with cancer and sent to National Naval Medical Center Bethesda, Md., for treatment. After surgery and chemotherapy, he spent two years on limited duty while serving at the Naval Legal Service Office at the Washington Navy Yard.

Despite being away from the fleet, he wanted to make first class, so he developed his own study program. It consisted of audio tapes he created and listened to during his 55-minute commute back and forth to work. He was advanced to first class before returning to the fleet.

These events, Howard said, helped shape his life. He makes a point of telling Sailors that adversity can be overcome.

“I start out every all-hands call I make telling Sailors that I’m here to give them hope,” Howard said. “That it’s OK to fail and you can come back from adversity and still succeed in the Navy.”
Comment by CrackerjackMom on February 20, 2009 at 8:57pm
Shelia, take a look at my pictures on my home page.... LCAC. "Landing Craft Air Cushion" they "fly" from shore to ship and back again. They carry supplies and Marines to where ever they need to go. Tara and the LCACs are stationed in Camp Pendleton. She has been there a year. The Boxer will hold (I think) she said 3 of them this trip. She works on the LCACs and also as the Yoeman for her unit.

The pictures are of the day she left for deployment 1/9/09

I hope that explains it.
Comment by CrackerjackMom on February 20, 2009 at 2:17am
Hi, everyone. I have been a member of Navy for Moms for a few months now, but just found this group. I have two sailors both are on the complete opposite ends of the jobs. My son is a Nuke and my daughter is undesignated. My son has been in 3 years and my daughter has been in 1 1/2 years.
She went in undesignated right from the beginning. It was her choice. (tried to talk her out of it) She did not qualify for MC, she was a few points off on the ASVAB, and did not want any of the other jobs she qualified for. So her intention was go in und and strike for the job she wanted. She did boot camp and a 3 week school in Great Lakes, and her orders were for Camp Pendleton. She was assigned to ACU5. Right now she is on deployment for 6-7 months. She is still undesignated but is hoping to be rated by the time she is back. She will be taking the BM test in March. Hopefully she passes and then she will be rated.
There is so much more to her story of why she is trying for BM. But right now she loves it at Pendleton and she is loving being on deployment. But she wishes she had gone in rated even if it wasn't for the job she wanted.
So her saga continues, and she worries about not getting rated before her time is up. Because she really (thinks) wants to stay in for more then 4 years.
Anyway, I am here to help if I can, and get info from you all on here as well.
I am so glad that I found other und moms, I feel like I was the only one out there.
Comment by Kelly (Matt's Mom) on February 8, 2009 at 5:59pm
My kiddo said his check was short by a substantial amount, too. I've told him to ask. He just doesn't know who to ask yet being as he just arrived Wed in San Diego. If I find out something, I'll write about it. Thanks for this site!

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