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Comment by Son#2 on December 28, 2017 at 8:05am

Hello!

  The only thing I am wondering is, he wants some type of mechanical rate.  Will any of his jobs be mechanical?

Comment by Michael on December 27, 2017 at 9:25pm

Kristi yes he is he has done so much school he is one of only two people on his ship that can do anchors and steering and the only on in his ship that can use the forklift. He was nominated for bluejacket of the quarter did not get it because he thinks he’s to new on the ship but it does not stop
Him. Now that he’s been frocked to E4 all the newbies that come on he makes sure they do stuff the right way not like some guys taught him short cuts because short cuts can make things go wrong. So he is happy now he can make sure guys under him in his shop will donthings right the first time the right way and not the wrong way.

Comment by Kristi on December 27, 2017 at 9:21pm

! Your husband sounds like fight him and call them their “protege”. I think he’ll be fine. He also said he’s been told to just get training in anything he can, just make himself more marketable and flexible around the ship . He said the ones that are Undes with bad attitudes are the ones that get out there because they have not been successful
I’m the schools that the chose. Those guys are kind of bitter. ’”

Comment by Michael on December 27, 2017 at 9:13pm

There is nothing wrong with undes all this negative bs is what it is. My husband went in undes as F pact so he can go Nuke route because he was not a citizen at the time of entry of military he struck a rate in a year which is typical if you are a worker if your a slacker it will take longer as there are 3 people in his ship that have been undes for 3 years and if they don’t strike something this year they will be kicked out but they are also slackers. Just think he or she can go in and try many jobs and not get stuck in a job you hate for 4 years or longer. My husband tried almost 22 jobs and picked what he like and he’s happy and Chiefs look up to him as he knows his stuff and does things the right way bybthe book they know it gets done right the first time.

Comment by Kristi on December 27, 2017 at 9:12pm

Gosh, I like this site but it’s difficult to clear up TypeOs.

Comment by Kristi on December 27, 2017 at 9:09pm

Younger guys who were kind of cocky. When senior officers got wind of the disrespect, they cut it off pretty quickly. After BC, he trained at GL for about 4 weeks and then he went to his first choice, he is stationed in San Diego. I would suggest, your SR may want to consider the climate and time of year he or she will be working as an Undes, since it is mostly an outdoor job. My son is loving bring in San zdurho rught now. He has been told the sun will be brutal in the summer, though. Regarding the job, lots of cleaning and moving heavy objects. My son said the other day, he had been surprised to learn how far making sure you are tidy and just do your job efficiently abs respectfully gets a person. He gives and reserves respect. He gets paid the same amount as any other person in his rank, he is E3 because he had a couple of years of college. However, whether you are Undes or Nuke or anything technical, you make the sane amount of money...From my son’s perspective, he’d rather be taking his time in a temporary job, seeing where he may want to be, than being stuck in a job he thought sounded cool but he found out wasn’t so great after he’s already in. That being said, he also knows that in about a year, when he can strike a rate, he serves the needs of the Navy and he will need to choose from the rates that are available at the time. I guess I just want you to know Undes is not as bad as it sounds. It’s tennporary and it’s an opportunity to learn how all of the jobs on a ship operate.

Comment by Kristi on December 27, 2017 at 8:58pm

My son went in Undes and I fought it all summer. My research indicated it would not be a very good experience. He was adamant that it was his choice. He felt he did not know what he younger recruits who were kind of cocky and hands-on labor and wait it out until he could get an idea of how the jobs on the ship operate. He did get snarky comments here and there before he went to BC and while I’m BC, usually from

Comment by Son#2 on December 26, 2017 at 6:07pm

Hello!

Thanks for the info.  I'm sure I will be asking more questions.  My oldest son just got out of the navy, so I am familiar with some of what goes on.  He was a nuke mm, so he didn't go in undesignated.  My youngest is going in now.  

Comment by Espadab on December 26, 2017 at 1:06pm

My son is in the pact program as well.  He really never complains.  He doesn't like the 4 months of crank in the galley but only has a few more weeks of it and is overall pretty happy. He really was not sure what job he wanted to do and now has a pretty good idea of what he wants to try to strike for.  He does his job as well as he can and moves on to the next job.  I think its a great learning experience.  Wishing your son the very best.

Comment by Michael on December 26, 2017 at 11:42am

Your son will be fine in the pact program my husband went in as fireman pact and he picked up his rate in 9 months and now he’s a MM. tell him to work hard do the job the right way and don’t slack off. My husband got ahead just because of that. Just do his job and he will be fine. He will have a to crank for 4 months it sucks but he gets it out of the way. Any questions ask

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