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Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Sheila Clark

Undesignated...What's Up With That?

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Undesignated...What's Up With That?

A place for Moms of Undesignated Sailors to share concerns and support each other.

Members: 458
Latest Activity: Jul 17, 2022

Discussion Forum

Nothing Wrong with Undesignated Sailor!

Started by David B. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 55 Replies

So I am freaking out a bit!

Started by tracemc. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 4 Replies

Undes 2017

Started by Melissagonavy. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 8 Replies

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Comment by NavyBrat on October 23, 2014 at 6:20pm

FYI Angie, I did learn the value of a good education while serving in the navy. Today I have six college degrees. One is only pre-law but I've got more than thirty years of research behind that. 

Comment by NavyBrat on October 19, 2014 at 7:28pm

Angie, the fine print is ignored by the courts all the time because it is not legible to the naked eye. In fact, putting anything harmful to the other party in fine print is always a bad idea. It is proof in writing that the author of the contract was aware their side was negotiating in bad faith.

Comment by NavyBrat on October 19, 2014 at 7:26pm

Bzymommee,Tell her to hold her head up high and keep me informed.

Comment by NavyBrat on October 19, 2014 at 7:08pm

Angie, try to remember, I like you and I'm proud to have served, but it would be a felony for me to lie to them.

Under the UCMJ and DOD policies, even the Admirals are required to address me as sir due to my current status; however, I prefer to dispense with the formalities. Never did like them

Comment by NavyBrat on October 19, 2014 at 6:58pm

I honored the contract, both the verbal and the written.

The Federal courts have ruled the verbal contract prevails over the written contract. Problem is, the sailor is at a disadvantage. He or she didn't bring a witness.

In the fleet a Petty Officer's word (remember Petty Officer's have ratings), will usually win out over a non-rates word.

I don't have the option of lying to the mothers Angie.

If I switch gears and look at it from the point of view of a military historian for a moment, I'm almost surprised everyone doesn't know that lying to recruits has been going on for centuries.

Comment by NavyBrat on October 19, 2014 at 6:50pm

Angie, I am legally obligated to inform them they should notify their state's attorney general. I don't expect their state's attorney general to act on it, because I know it is their son's or daughter's word against the recruiter's word. However, lying to a recruit is fraud and it is a felony under Federal and State law, but I know reporting it to the recruiter's supervisor is a waste of time.

I don't recommend a class action lawsuit myself, because I'm not going to advise parents nor their sailors to engage in a fight with the Navy especially while their sailor is in the Navy. Accidents happen; don't invite it.

Honor the contract even if the Navy doesn't. You'll be able to hold your head up high afterwards.

The problem is Angie, the government lawyers have out-smarted themselves. Plus, they've created a paper trail a first year law student or rookie detective could follow without missing a beat.

I'm from a law enforcement background Angie. One of my titles was detective.

Comment by djk's Mom on October 6, 2014 at 4:04pm

My SOn is also undes and not rated and he says he will not be for a while.!

Comment by Bzymommee on October 6, 2014 at 4:00pm

I need help!  My daughter has been deployed for almost a year...has been on active duty for 15+ months.  She is undesignated.  I just spoke with her and she says she is not rated and they have 10 days to rate her or she will be able to come home after deployment.  If they rate her then she will continue to serve.  I seriously don't understand any of this.  Can someone explain it to me?

 

Comment by NavyBrat on October 5, 2014 at 8:32am

FYI moms. If you son or daughter was lied to, you should report it to your state attorney general in a registered letter.

Your son or daughter likewise, should report it to your state attorney general in a registered letter.

If all moms and dads would please do so, the scope of the problem will be understood by your state attorney general and the Armed Forces will come under pressure to clean up their act.

Comment by NavyBrat on October 5, 2014 at 8:25am

Essentially, you have the Navy right where you want it.

 

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