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Comment by MaryNavywife/mom on July 19, 2014 at 10:48pm

I respect that everyone can have a different experience going undesignated, but I know my husband isn't the only one who had a positive experience. My oldest son's best friend joined the Navy undesignated and within 18 months he was a 3rd class GM. The Navy is no different than the civilian world. There are great leaders as well as poor leaders. I don't have rose colored glasses on, I know the Navy isn't all unicorns and faires, but I have seen too many people excel because of their hard work

Comment by casper202006 on July 19, 2014 at 8:21pm

im using my moms account. but ive been a in the navy for about a year now as undesignated. im been on my ship for about 10 months... coming in as undesignated was the worst thing i could have ever done. i was told that i would only be undesignated for about 6-8 months.. its almost a year now.. my NC1 on the ship is no help at all, he feeds us lies after lies to keep the deck department which im in.so pretty much hes messing with our careers. everyone i went to boot camp with are all 3rd classes now. ive talked to 2 other undez guys i graduated with and they all say the same thing as me. my BMSC in deck and all the other BM'S are the worst ive seen so far in my short time in the navy.. this is my first and worst command... i cant want to get out of the navy... word of advise,,  DONT LET YOUR KIDS OR ANYBODY GO UNDESIGNATED. THEY WILL HATE IT

Comment by CrackerjackMom on July 19, 2014 at 8:08pm

First I want to point out that putting dates is a no no.  

I just ask you to be a friend, then we can PM.

Comment by Up&Down on July 19, 2014 at 7:39pm

Any one out there have a Sailor being deployed this month on the 25th from San Diego????  Please  pm me to see if they are on the same ship.

I would like to start another group for moms with sailors on the same ship. 

Comment by MaryNavywife/mom on July 18, 2014 at 8:26pm

Hi everyone.  I am new to your group because a friend suggested that I join so I could share my husband's story in hopes that it would be encouraging to each of you.  21 years ago my husband joined the Navy as an E1, undesignated Airman.  A year and a half out of boot camp he struck Aviation Support Equipment tech (AS) and had his rate. 14 years after enlisting he reached the rank of Chief Petty Officer (E7).  He has now been in 21 years, a Senior Chief (E8) for the last 3 years and is up for Master Chief (E9).  Some may see joining the Navy as an undesignated Sailor as a dead end.  I am here to tell you it is not. The Navy has a saying, choose your rate choose your fate.  Going undesignated may not be ideal for some, but it is better than picking a rate that you want excel in or will hate. 

Comment by Emi - #proudofmysailor on July 10, 2014 at 10:01pm

I have a questions.  My son went into BC as E1.  I had heard that he has ranked up to E2 which I was told was possible in BC.  PIR date is 7/18/2014 and we received news that might possibly have ranked up to E3?? Is this possible?  I thought I read somewhere that he would not be able to rank up to E3 until after his A training and after he was able to strike for a job (2yrs?)  -- Am I crossing signals somewhere?

Comment by NavyBrat on July 6, 2014 at 3:06pm

It was on one of those 72 hour shifts that I pledged that when I made Petty Officer I wouldn't be a useless jerk, and I would look out for the sailors I had the privilege to supervise.

I pledged I would be a leader, not a jerk and it was a learning experience that served me well later.

Comment by NavyBrat on July 5, 2014 at 11:35am

Its real easy. Breach of contract by the Navy prior to any breach of contract by the sailor makes the OTH or the dishonorable discharge null and void.

I would order the reinstatement of the benefits.

Comment by NavyBrat on July 5, 2014 at 11:33am

I recall working an occasional 72 hour shift as an non-rate because the Petty Officers of the United States Navy believed it was beneath their dignity to relieve me themselves.

I recall seeing "A" school graduates whining that they worked too hard because about one hour a day they had to do some actual work.

If I were a Federal Judge and the mother or father of a sailor who received an OTH or a dishonorable discharge and I was informed by those parents the Navy recruiter lied, I would demand the Navy send me all info, and if the recruiter did lie, I would order the Navy to vacate the OTH or the dishonorable discharge and issue a regular discharge or face the consequences.

Comment by NavyBrat on July 4, 2014 at 11:46am

GMomma_SHIP 11_DIV 193_PIR 6/6

I wish you and your daughter well and if any of the males are less than a gentleman with your daughter, you'll let me know.

Same goes for all moms for all sailors, male and female.

Remind her too, that undes look out for one another because the command won't.

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