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Comment by Margee' on February 5, 2012 at 4:28pm

Thanks for some answers,Jess & Marine Navymom.I hear so many different stories abut this I have no idea whats true or not .I hear the higher-up CO's, Captains- so on are being offered incentives to retire to bring in lower paying people? The rest are being pushed out by not letting them re-signing again.If it was my daughter she would be looking to go to school like yours M/N mom, but my son no way.I guess he figured  he don't need to have college credits for what he does  & still climb up. He has his training from different schools they send him to for his job. I like you worry about this world & whats going on. One old Mentor of mine told me years ago -- Change is Good.. Is it? I wonder. Margee'

Comment by Jess_0411 on February 4, 2012 at 9:22pm

My husband works as the Career Counselor for his division, and he said that the only people being forced out are the ones not passing their physical evals, aren't classing up like they should be, or who have any type of disciplinary action against them. If your sailor has a clean record, great evals, and is classing up as scheduled, there is no reason to worry.

Comment by Margee' on February 4, 2012 at 8:20pm

Thanks, Marine-NavyMOM,   I can't get into political views (that I keep to myself) best way , but your answer makes sense to me. As for my son, what he was trained in is all he knows and like me don't care for change . I had the same job for 30 years, so I believe he would love to stay in the Navy and climb the ladder as I did in my job (retired). He went in at 17 1/2-he's 29 now . He could have left after the 4 years , but liked it so much he kept re-signing & kept climbing the ladder to an E-6 right now and I know he wants to stay. He even bought a house down there to be near the base,for him to do so would tell me he wants to retire there to the highest he could be. Not pushed out. I think if they offer him tons of money- he might just reject it to stay. What kind of job on the outside would he get that all the Navy provides. This kid is single yet-no family. I was most surprised when he didn't come out after the 4 years,then I figured by talking to him -he is just like me & sticks to one thing. Thats not a bad thing, if it can be done. Iworked for the GOV. also but there rules were 30 years or 55 years of age. I worked 37 years in total .I'm still young yet but this kid is only 29-what would he do or what kind of job? He would have to go back to school for something?  I just feel for these kids who want to do right and retire with the Navy esp. if they have families to support and to be pushed out? We have to do the wait & see approach and hope for the best. I just pray-thats all I can do.God has a plan. Margee'

Comment by maddox1 on February 4, 2012 at 5:30pm

Thank you DebbieinCA. This site is to share our stories about our sailors. Political issues can become such a touchy topic especially like the comment that was made. Your comment was right on point. Let us not lose focus on the unity of this not and not develop a separation.

Comment by DebbieinCA on February 4, 2012 at 5:01pm

Oops. I meant with the wars in the Middle East coming to an end, it's inevitable that all military branches have to cut back on personnel...

 

Comment by DebbieinCA on February 4, 2012 at 4:58pm

If we're going to get political on this site, I just want to say that history shows the military getting more pay raises and benefit increases from Democratic presidents than from Republican presidents. It seems that the Republicans are quicker to use the military, while the Democrats are slower to put their lives in danger and take better care of them.

Comment by DebbieinCA on February 4, 2012 at 4:55pm

I found an article on this. With the wars in the Middle East, it's inevitable that all military branches have to cut back, especially in jobs that are at high demand in war time but not in peace time. It's sad, but sailors are offered the opportunity to change jobs to something that fits the "needs of the Navy." As a Navy mom, that phrase has come to put chills down my spine.

http://www.stripes.com/news/navy-job-cuts-lack-of-retirements-put-t...

 

Comment by arlene40 on February 4, 2012 at 12:39pm

We we can make it to see Obama voted out of office for he is the one that really does not care about our military or having a strong military.  Anytime they have had to make cuts in the military before they allowed the ones that wanted to get out to have a choice to get out first, also they have offered early retirement.  I know last year the US Coast Guards were offering their members so much money and benefits or something like that to get out.  My grandson has only be in the Coast Guards 4 years and really loves and and plans on making a career out of it and he was telling me this... but he refused the offer... But I believe when we have a change in leadership we will see much more respect for our military.  Romney, Newt and Santorum have all said that they would build the biggest military and it will be the top and stay the top in the world etc... so we just have to hope and pray that these people that want to stay in will have a chance... prayers are with all of them... when you lose a job now days it is very hard for someone to find another one.  

Comment by Margee' on February 4, 2012 at 10:19am

  I can't understand this: my son and my nephews wanted to make this their career, put in their 20 years then go on with what the Navy offers. They only have 5 years to go. I thought the milatary was the most safest job serving your country that there was. You could go on to bigger things- not get fired? They all have clean records, no problems yet to hear that makes me sick. This is what the outside world does in business-not the milatary . what about the Chiefs, CO's and even higher? Are they getting rid of them also? Some have 25-30 years in . My son is only 29 with 5 years to go for his 20. He planned to go further then the 20 because this is all he knows. For him to rejoin the outside would cause problems , he would have to find a job and all. This makes no sence. If they want to put a halt on the milarty- don't sign anyone up for a while -do a freeze. Don't cut these young lives off esp. when they have families.

Comment by duhhuh58 Ship 10/Div 267 on February 4, 2012 at 9:00am

i've heard alot about that here.  i think the problem is there are so many people wanting to go in that they can bring in new people at a lower pay.  with the budget cuts the government is doing it's happening everywhere.  it's sad. 

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