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Comment by shannon on April 16, 2014 at 7:16am

Catmom he also took a yr and a half of actual college after HS. I told him to talk with someone there and make sure it wasnt a oversite. Do they have different uniforms for corpsman he acted like he had to purchase more when he got to Texas. I told him as soon as he was allowed to he should start the online classes. His goal is to get his RN and in addition to be a respiratory therapist. He has a big desire to help ppl with MS bc of one of his friends battling it currently, it became his cause.

Comment by CatMom509 on April 16, 2014 at 2:12am

shannon,

After he pays for his uniforms and gets into A school, he will be able to save.  He needs to be disciplined.  I've heard of many Sailors that just blow their pay on video gaming, drinking, spending money on food (when the Navy is already taking out from their pay to eat at the chow hall).  Alot of those young Sailors have not known regular pay and fail to plan for their future.

Oh, I see.  He was in dual enrollment when he is in high school and college at the same time.  It's too bad those classes didn't count to bring him to E-2.  Seems it has to be college classes taken after high school graduation that elevates one.  At least the advancement to E-2 and E-3 will be automatic, just the time passing by.  For E-4 (Petty Officer Third Class) a test has to be passed and it's not easy.

Find out from your A school group or Corpsman group if any there are any special rapid promotion programs for those finishing #1 and #2 in their class.  My Sailor daughter finished her IT training #2 in her class and earned E-4 after 5 months at her first duty station (didn't have to take the exam), but she had to add another year to her contract~~

Anyway, your SR sounds very driven and I'm sure he will ultimately do well in his Navy career.  He is getting paid to get trained and doesn't have to scramble for financial aid and student loans or money from mom & dad.  Plus he can use the Tuition Assistance program to take college classes while he is in the Navy.  Lots of options are available!

Comment by shannon on April 15, 2014 at 4:45pm

Thanks catmom ya im not letting him know my disappointment in the way its going for him just encouraging him right now:) instead im venting to u guys bc ur great at knowledge and advise. He is already 21 so I hate to see him set back anymore... he didnt get E2 he was told in 6 months he will advance. He started in high school in a college program and already had his nurses aid finished before he graduated high school. So its just sad seeing him fall behind when he was already ahead. He is also a firefighter and passed a first responder class for ems. He worked on a volunteer dept. He is making less now than his full-time job at subway and yesterday had to go spend 500.00 on supplies like uniforms & a watch bc the one he had wad not accepted. He had big plans of saving all his money to pay off his car and start saving for a house. & he is worse off financially now. He seems down about it but Ive told him to stay focused and as soon as he is allowed to start taking extra courses online. He actually will be board in A school bc he is repeating what he has already been thru. Its too bad he couldnt test out. He has had a ton of classes already thru marion tech and osum & tririvers career center.

Comment by CatMom509 on April 15, 2014 at 3:21pm

Friends,

Just want to let you know that the Facebook page for U..S. Navy Recruit Training Command usually posts many pics of PIR.  If you spot your Sailor in these pics, you can Download them to your own computer by clicking on the pic, then going down to Options to download OR you can right click and Save Picture As~~

Comment by CatMom509 on April 15, 2014 at 3:08pm

Hello Everyone~~

     "I in them and You in Me.  May they be brought

      to complete unity to let the world know that You

      sent Me and have loved them even as You

      have loved Me."

                                                        John 17:23

Comment by CatMom509 on April 15, 2014 at 3:08pm

shannon,

After graduating Boot Camp, he should received his E-2/E-3 from his college credits already earned.  He should have patches and all on his uniform that show he is higher than an E-1 now.  All SRs are E-1s during Boot Camp. 

I hope the Post 911 GI option was shown him because that one doesn't have the $100 monthly payment and I think is transferrable to a spouse/children for 15 years.  If he already chose the Montgomery one, he pays the $100 monthly for 12 months only.  Not sure if he has the option to switch to the only one.

Do a bit more research on the Corpsman transferability to the civilian sector.  I know the Navy has certifications in different ratings that may or may not be accepted in the private sector.  Nursing is a specific one that many enter thinking this is so.

While I understand your frustration, please stand by your Sailor and encourage him during this Navy journey.  I feel that God put him on this path for a reason~~  Praying for him and you to trust that God is in control...

Comment by shannon on April 15, 2014 at 11:59am

Thanks diannep should I call the recruiter and correct him? It just makes us angry bc he gave up his spot for college bc there was a waiting list to finish nursing degree with the I understanding he would be able to achieve the aame thing by enlisting he only had a year in a half left & would have been a RN now he will have to serve his 5 yrs and get out get back on the waiting list which is two yrs out currently and do his yr and a half. If the recruiter haf told the truth he would have stayed in the nursing program and then enlisted.

Comment by diannep on April 15, 2014 at 11:44am

Sorry my post posted twice....right now, it won't let me delete one!  UGH!  Will keep trying.

Comment by diannep on April 15, 2014 at 11:43am

Hmmm, shannon.  Not sure that is accurate on the transferring the GI Bill to children....I have attached the info on transferring to children:

http://www.benefits.va.gov/gibill/post911_transfer.asp

Your sailor does have to sign up to take part in the GI Bill and starts paying $100/mo then.  My son did that and is now finishing up his Bachelor's. (he is now out of the Navy)  He will have some benefits leftover and has a son, but his son is just a baby and benefits for dependents have to be used in a certain timeframe---so he won't be able to use them. I believe his eligible benefits expire in 2027, and his son will only be 14 yrs old by that time.

Sadly, many times, we hear that recruiters give inaccurate info to the recruits.  My son was fortunate in that he had an honest one who told him the truth.  Not sure if the others intentionally don't tell the truth, or if it is just that they are misinformed....sometimes it seems that it is just about "numbers" with the recruiters.  But there are some good ones out there....

As far as his Navy schooling transferring to regular college....that is actually true...but he may find that all of his Navy credits will not apply towards his degree---and right now, no, he will not come out with a degree that counts in the civilian world unless he actually takes college classes while active duty.  What happened with my son....his course of study for his Bachelor's didn't accept all of his Navy educational credits.  I will say that I have heard that the "powers that be" are trying to make it where someone in the military who is trained as a firefighter, for example, should be able to be discharged and have that training count in the civilian world without doing more civilian school.  I actually heard Pres. Obama mention that one time.....that military training/schooling in a profession should count in the civilian world.  How long that takes to implement, if it ever is, I'm not sure.  Seems only fair though, right?

Comment by shannon on April 15, 2014 at 8:03am

So I am feeling super frustrated. The recruiter sat on my living room sofa looked me in the eyes and shook my hand all while he was telling me 3 lies. What happen to integrity? He first told us that with my sons previous college that he would come out of boot camp an e2 maybe even e3, he said that my son would get his nursing degree from the Navy from schooling provided after boot camp (which is what he was currently going to school for when he enlisted) & that he could then pass his gi bill to his children. What has happened so far, he is a e1 is hearing that the schooling is not transferable to civilian word, & if he pays a 100 a month he can tranfer his GI bill to his children but has to do it within 5 yrs of getting out. So basically he will have to be a lifer if he wants to use that opt. The recruiters are suppost to b representatives of the Navy. Is this what is expected of them to do or is itc something that the Navy frowns opon if so is there someo e I should contact about him? My grandpa and my husbands grandpa both served in the Navy hince why thy our son choose this branch. We did have questions though and the recruiter told us exactly what we wanted to hear reguardless if it was true. So I guess whats the point of even asking questions if the answers are lies.

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