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Comment by KikiOtter on April 19, 2012 at 10:43am

Is all SECF schooling in Groton? My husband thought it was, but now he seems unsure if he'll still be in Groton for A-school following BESS. He currently has approximately 3 weeks left of basic right now.

Comment by MamaMiri (FT) on April 16, 2012 at 8:52pm

No problem! Yep you just have to roll with things. ;) Good luck!

Comment by KLSchisler on April 16, 2012 at 8:44pm

Thank you MamaMiri for all your help!! Glad I have an "idea" now. One thing about the military I have learned so far, you can never plan anything!! LOL.

Comment by MamaMiri (FT) on April 16, 2012 at 2:02pm

Yes, BESS is 8 weeks long, right after boot camp, in Groton. The soonest you can move out with the Navy paying for your move and eligible to live in "base" housing (it's not actually on base, but around the base, and owned/managed by a private/civilian company therefore referred to as "privatized" housing, but it is what we commonly think of as base housing) is after he gets his new/updated orders for after BESS which is usually a few weeks in. They prefer that you not move until after BESS though, and if you do, he needs to get it signed off by the Chiefs before housing and personal property (which handles the move) will work with you, if I recall it's mostly because he needs permission to move out of the barracks. But you CAN move once he has his orders and they have 342 orders on them, which means authorized to move WITH dependents.

Comment by KLSchisler on April 16, 2012 at 1:51pm

When is BESS? Is that right after boot camp? I am also trying to find out when the soonest I can be with my husband, but he is still in boot. graduates may 25th.

 

Comment by MamaMiri (FT) on April 11, 2012 at 11:52am

If you move yourself (called a DITY move) you can get a percentage of the cost for moving your goods up front, but make sure your Sailor (once he has orders) sits down and has an in-depth appointment with Personal Property before doing ANYTHING. They skimped on talking in detail with my husband and we claimed too much, and ended up owing the Navy some of that money back (but they took months to let us know about it...ugh). Otherwise, the Navy will handle the move and you won't pay out of pocket, their movers come and pack and transport everything. They will not pay anything up front for your travel/car. You pay that out of pocket, file when you get there and then will be reimbursed for it.

Comment by Nana Donna (nanaTo2Saliors) on April 11, 2012 at 11:23am

My grandson just finished his schooling in Groton and is now stationed in New Hampshire.  He just moved his wife and daughter out there.  Your sailor has to arrange for the mover to come and get your stuff, they will pack it and move it.  I takes about 2-3 weeks to get there.  In his case his wife was staying with his Mom so she did not move till the furniture got there so she just flew out on Sunday and they are reimbursing him for her flight.  Another piece of good info is that Southwest Airlines allows you 9 bags when flying on military orders. She had 7 bags much needed with flying/moving with a 1 year old.  But he needs to start the process.  The movers will also take the furniture to storage should you need it done that way.  They do NOT pay for the move of a car that you pay out of pocket

Comment by MamaMiri (FT) on April 10, 2012 at 11:11pm

No worries. Being on a sub is a pretty good gig as far as jobs in the Navy go. Classes for this rate last about a year so you also get that long together before he starts going on deployments which is really nice. I was afraid at first that being on a sub would mean that I would never see him, I had read some things that said they are out to sea all the time and have frequent deployments. The reality is yes, deployments are more frequent than surface ships, but they are also shorter. There are also short underways which are a couple weeks to a couple months long, not a full deployment. They also spend a pretty good amount of time in port and you won't have the types of deployments where they are gone for 12-18 months straight. Works for me. Roll with it and enjoy the adventure. He will do well if he works hard and stays out of trouble.

Comment by MamaMiri (FT) on April 10, 2012 at 10:59pm

If he is a submariner in the SECF field, then yes, Groton is where he is going. :) BESS is 8 weeks, and he will be assigned his specific rate (ET, FT, or STS) during BESS, a few weeks in. His orders for the rest of school will be posted shortly after, I think within a week or two after he gets his rate. He will need to proactively check for them though, his instructor won't just tell him when they have been posted because for most of the other guys, it doesn't really matter. Once the orders are posted, you are authorized to live in housing and the Navy will pay for your move. BUT. Your husband will still need to get permission from the Chiefs if you move before the end of BESS because it means he moves out of the barracks. Don't neglect that step or he will get in trouble.

As far as dogs, in housing you can have 2 pets. I don't believe there is a weight limit, but certain breeds are not allowed. Check with Belfour Beatty, they are the company that owns/runs the housing here, which is privatized. We don't have any pets right now so I'm not sure of specifics beyond that.

Comment by MamaMiri (FT) on April 10, 2012 at 10:09pm

Generally they try to get you to wait until after BESS- mostly I think because such a large number of guys either get sent surface or get processed out of the Navy for various reasons before completing school, and many of that number don't even finish BESS. But, technically, you qualify for the move as soon as they get assigned their rate (FT, ETcomm/nav, or STS) and they get their orders to the rest of school which since he is married will include orders for relocation with dependents. He will need to get official permission from his chain of command to move you before the end of BESS (I believe because it involves him then living out of the barracks when you arrive), which involves talking to his Chiefs, possibly Master Chief but I can't remember for sure, it was over a year ago now that we went through this. I moved with our son the week before he graduated from BESS, but found out later that we could have moved 2 weeks sooner but his Petty Officer gave him wrong information. Not all of the instructors are really informed on what is allowed for married Sailors because so few of the students are married. But, you definitely cannot move until he gets his orders- housing, personal property, and PSD will all need those orders (and I seem to remember something about 342 instead of 341 if I have the numbers right, authorizing a move with dependents rather than without) before they will do anything on the Navy's dime.

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