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Comment by BunkerQB on October 8, 2009 at 2:02am

Most nukes/subs are "left" brained and love to tinker. I probably would have qualified. 730+ on the SAT in math. An "A" in college calculus. Took college Physics. From a women's perspective, the question is WHY? It is not like being on a sub would give a gal a leg up on getting to run the Navy. I have done the "bring home the bacon and cook it too" routine - in fact quite well for years. I am not so sure that we (as women) have made that much progress. Outside of the military, I see a lot of young men more than happy to let the wife do everything in the name of women's liberation. Doesn't matter how you cut it, biology is not going to change (in the foreseeable future anyway) - it's the still female who will gives birth. We all know how the "mothering" instinct kicks in whether the timing is good or not. Dual careers sounds romantic but it's an extreme exercise in juggling, compromise and acceptance of the fact that you can't do either the "mommy role" or the "career track" supremely well. In my younger years, I tried. I live on 3 to 4 hours of sleep for days. Makes me a perfect nuke/sub candidate, right? Was it worth it? I am not sure. I would want my future DILs and grand=daughters to have more options, including the option to stay home and be "just a mommy."

Comment by Kaye S. on October 8, 2009 at 12:38am

Here's a LINK to the article that Nancy posted at Gloria's discussion about females on subs.

So far, all the arguments offered are the same ones used when they began integrated surface ships. I know the guys won't like it (they've NEVER liked letting girls into the treehouse), but it's going to happen... k.

Comment by BunkerQB on October 8, 2009 at 12:09am

Terrie,
"cubisize" hmmmmm - I am simply not going to touch that one with a 10 ft - oops it's been cubisize!
LLove,
Let's start with the CO's quarters - no changes needed.
Michdang,
Trouble? Wait until they see the cost projections. I thought the Navy was out of money. Maybe this is the reason they need to get rid of the overstaffed personnel.
Lastly,
We haven't heard from any of the young ladies. Are they dying with anticipation of being sequestered with 120 smelly, foul-mouthed, quick-tempered (if they are not now they will be) guys? I can't wait to be a MIL but if I had a daughter, I wouldn't let her on a sub for all the oil in Saudi Arabia (much more valuable than tea in China).
OK. That's enough for one session.
Bea

Comment by LLovesmysailor on October 7, 2009 at 10:43pm

My guess is they'll start with Officers. Those quarters are easier to re-fit.

Comment by BunkerQB on October 7, 2009 at 9:24pm

Well, there may be bubbleheads on subs but there are airheads running the show.

Comment by Gloria P. on October 7, 2009 at 7:17pm

Hey girls that why I started this in the discussion forum. There is some info from Nancy on when the female sailors will be allow on subs. Bea S you may want to go to the discussion there is info on fast attack subs. let me know what you think.

Comment by BunkerQB on October 7, 2009 at 6:50pm

If the policy is expands to fast attacks, my son would not reup - he loves women and has utmost respect for their abilities (in and out of the military), just not on his sub. He would probably be all right to have a sub with an all female crew. This whole thing sounds like a political move on the part of those in charge - some career advancement notoriety.

Comment by BunkerQB on October 7, 2009 at 4:18pm

Susan,
They may be smart as whip nukes on subs but when it comes to common sense - God Almighty must have taken the day off. Well, that is what moms are for. God was right on he button when he designed Navy moms! We are a pretty wonderful bunch, aren't we?! But you have to head it off at the pass - we just can't be at all places at one time to make it happen. I am going to contact some of the people on his boat and find out if anyone will be at homecoming and pay him/her to take a video/pictures. My husband thinks he must be getting a homecoming from a local reception committee who he is not ready for us to meet - or his main land squeeze wants to be there and he does not want to split time between us. If you ever meet him, don't let on that we have been speculating on this issue. LOL.

Comment by NevadaSierra on October 6, 2009 at 9:57pm

Hey Bea - I've never been to a homecoming. Not invited - and when he got married - well - the thing that shattered my heart was when he included my ex (my husband adopted both my kids) - anyway the ex was invited on the tigger cruise - not the 'DAD". D still doesn't know. I don't have the heart to see the hurt. I am sure it is to build a relationship, etc. He could have at least done some damage control. NOPE - so still not grown up -or still taking the real parents for granted. Hang in there. There are lots here who will share and you will feel a part of it.

Comment by BunkerQB on October 6, 2009 at 9:11pm

I am not getting any support from his dear old Dad - who uses the benign-neglect approach. Dad gets away with it because Mom is always out there paving the way - he just sits back and enjoys it. I get infuriated because Dad comes off smelling like a rose, sweet and as cooperative as can be. "Son, it's your life, do whatever you want." Then late at night, he moans and groans about lack of quality time with his beloved number one son. I guess his fancy education is good for something. I am real tempted to get a round trip ticket for ONE.

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