This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.

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FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO GET STARTED:

Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Navy.com Para Familias

Visite esta página para explorar en su idioma las oportunidades de educación y carreras para sus hijos en el Navy. Navy.com

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Sub Moms

Welcome to the deep, silent world of submarines!  If you're new to this world, start by reading the "Pages" of info found in the right-hand column, below the strip of member avatars.

We welcome your questions.  But, while you're here, maintain silence... don't slam doors or the lid on the toilet!

 Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

Group Administrator: Kaye S. Kaye S.

Members: 1306
Latest Activity: Jun 10

READ THE "PAGES" FIRST!

NEW MEMBERS !!

PLEASE READ ARTICLES IN THE "PAGES" AREA

in the right-hand column, under the avatars ----->

BEFORE YOU ASK QUESTIONS !!

These articles are the "reference library" for moms, ready to answer FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) 24x7 (twenty-four hours, seven days a week).  You may not have to post a question after all!  Thanks, Kaye S.

 NOTE:  THERE ARE MORE PAGES THAN DISPLAYED -

FOR A COMPLETE LIST, CLICK ON "VIEW ALL" AT

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New to this life?  SURVIVAL GUIDE FOR NEW NAVY MOMS

Need an Ombudsman?  OMBUDSMAN REGISTRY

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Comment by ELO.Navy.Mom on October 28, 2015 at 12:07pm

I am also divorced from my son's dad, and he wived with his dad until he joined the Navy. I have asked him (several times) to put me on the ombudsman's list, but today he called and said he has thought about it and decided to hold off (at least on putting ME on it). Dang, those kids know how to stab you in the heart.

Comment by LindaGirl on October 27, 2015 at 3:49pm
Thank you Angie, have a great day as well!
Comment by William in Nashua on October 27, 2015 at 3:00pm

If it is really an emergency you can always contact the American Red Cross.  My son never uses the ombudsman for anything he says it is there for wives only not parents.  That has never been a problem for me I have no need to know when his boat is coming or going and would not benefit me if I did.  When he is home he answers his phone and when not answering for a long time well then I assume the boat is underway and start sending email instead.   When he gets back from an underway he calls me usually from the pier and that is good enough for us.  You can send the boat email when they are underway too.

Comment by angier on October 27, 2015 at 12:57pm

LindaGirl,

Thank you so much :)  I hope it works out too! I will keep you posted.  Have a great day!!

Comment by LindaGirl on October 27, 2015 at 12:34pm
Good luck with that Angie, I hope it all works out.
Comment by LindaGirl on October 27, 2015 at 12:27pm

Thanks bcgoldy03 for that info and clearing that up for me & many other moms out there that I'm sure didn't realize the strict rules that an ombudsman has to follow. It does make sense though.  My sailor son, put both me & his dad on right away, so we didn't have to deal with that & I guess I was misinformed.

Comment by angier on October 27, 2015 at 12:25pm

Hi LindaGirl, bcgoldy03, Co-TwinSalorsMom, & J's/S'smom,

I want to say Thank You So Much for your comments and all the information that you gave me. I appreciate it so much :)      My son Scott and I get along very well that is not the issue. My ex and I get along fine. He likes to be in control. I have sent any e-mail to the commander on the submarine. Now I wait to get a response. Again thank you so much for the information and support it means alot to have other Moms to talk to.  I hope you all have a fantastic day!!

Angie  :)

Comment by bcgoldy03 on October 27, 2015 at 12:13pm

LindaGirl, 

Even in the worst case emergency the ombudsman will not contact any person who is not put in the paperwork by the sailor themselves. So if an emergency happens it would be whoever is listed on the sailor's official contact info who would be in contact with ombudsman. They will not be allowed per rules to talk to the mom if she isnt listed on there no matter what the emergency is. 

In my son's case, he actually lives (up until the Navy) with me and there was no estrangement, just youthful reluctance to deal with anything red tape, paperwork, bureaucracy, unless pushed. Disorganized as far as time management and once work day was over or he was on a break did not want to spend it going to the office to fill out paperwork. 

My sailor also had a sort of sweet idea that if something bad happened he didnt want me to be the first one to hear that, felt his dad would be stronger of us. Sweet but not exactly true as we all know most times Moms are the tougher one. Anyway good luck but push your sailor to do the paperwork now since when they get ready to deploy they are crazy busy. 

Comment by LindaGirl on October 27, 2015 at 11:50am
Sorry about the miss information, but at least she has a way to contact the ombudsman, God forbid an emergency happens that requires her son's attention through the ombudsman.
Comment by bcgoldy03 on October 27, 2015 at 11:42am

Hi LindaGirl and Angie

I had the exact same issue with my son about his dad and I being divorced, not ending up on the contact list. I have some additional information for you that is very important and will be helpful.  That is, you yourself can not get on the list of authorized family contacts without your son, and only your son, contacting the ombudsman or changing his paperwork that was filled out in boot camp. I found this out the hard way after my son was already on a surge (short notice and gone) deployment as his first underway. In fact the ombudsman told me that she could not even really talk to me or give me any information at all without my son's permission in the file. So before your son is deployed underway out at sea make sure you get him to add you to that list! I was lucky that my ex-husband and I are pretty amicable so he shared info with me and even forwarded messages back and forth. Once your son gets that paperwork added then you can contact the ombudsman and she will be able to answer your email and give you information. She told me this is a very common problem and that the young sailors often delay getting this paperwork taken care of which drives poor moms crazy. Good luck hope this helps too.  

From a mom who has been there!! 

 
 
 

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