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FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO GET STARTED:

Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Navy.com Para Familias

Visite esta página para explorar en su idioma las oportunidades de educación y carreras para sus hijos en el Navy. Navy.com

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Sub Moms

Welcome to the deep, silent world of submarines!  If you're new to this world, start by reading the "Pages" of info found in the right-hand column, below the strip of member avatars.

We welcome your questions.  But, while you're here, maintain silence... don't slam doors or the lid on the toilet!

 Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

Group Administrator: Kaye S. Kaye S.

Members: 1307
Latest Activity: Jun 29

READ THE "PAGES" FIRST!

NEW MEMBERS !!

PLEASE READ ARTICLES IN THE "PAGES" AREA

in the right-hand column, under the avatars ----->

BEFORE YOU ASK QUESTIONS !!

These articles are the "reference library" for moms, ready to answer FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) 24x7 (twenty-four hours, seven days a week).  You may not have to post a question after all!  Thanks, Kaye S.

 NOTE:  THERE ARE MORE PAGES THAN DISPLAYED -

FOR A COMPLETE LIST, CLICK ON "VIEW ALL" AT

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New to this life?  SURVIVAL GUIDE FOR NEW NAVY MOMS

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Comment by Angela on February 9, 2019 at 4:52pm
Thank you for the information!
Comment by WearsLargeHats on February 9, 2019 at 3:59pm

Welcome Angela!
My son is a Sonar Tech. He enjoys the job but, other than listening to whales and other sea-life, neither confirms nor denies anything else it might involve. The submarine service is fairly secretive. They go somewhere and do something. 
After training, your son will be assigned to a submarine somewhere. There are only like about 7 bases, Guam being the furthest. Once he gets there, he will start the qualification process, which will keep him very busy and typically takes around a year.
There are three types of subs: Fast attack (Los Angeles and Virginia class SSN), Ballistic Missile (Ohio class SSBN), and Guided Missile (Ohio class SSGN). There are also the 3 Seawolf subs that are "special projects" SSNs.
The SSNs typically do 6 month deployments on an 18 month cycle. SSBN and SSGN have two crews that alternate deployments of about 10 weeks. When the boat is in port, your sailor will have a duty rotation so that every 4 days (sometimes 3), he will stay overnight on-board. Other than that, there are regular work hours like any other job. We talk to our son once or twice a week. Of course, when they go out they disappear for weeks at a time. Our longest silence has been about 10 weeks.
If your son is single, he will live on base for about 4 years, or until he makes E5 (Petty Officer 2nd class). Expect housing at the school to be like a modern college dorm with shared bedrooms opening to a common living area. Base housing in the fleet is more like efficiency apartments. Our son's apartment at Pearl was 2 single bedrooms with a common living room and smallish kitchen. I'm not sure if it is different for E3 and below.
Those guys (and gals!) work hard. Everyone's job is critical to the safety and effectiveness of the boat. I am very proud that my son wears the Dolphins of a qualified submariner. It takes grit.

Comment by Angela on February 9, 2019 at 12:03pm
Thank you Carla that is so helpful!!
Comment by CarlaB on February 9, 2019 at 11:56am

Welcome Angela!

My son is SECF as well.  His is FC, which is weapons control.  SECF can be navigation, sonar, or weapons. He left for boot camp on June 28th last year, and is just now starting A-school, so your son will have roughly a year of training before he actually gets to a boat.  

After boot, he will go to Groton, CT for Basic Enlisted Sub School (BESS) and other training, including A-school.  I know they changed the curriculum recently, as my son did ATT (electrical training) as a separate course, and now it is rolled into A-school, so he is actually in holding while his A-school group does the ATT portion that he has already completed.

Once he gets to Groton you will be able to communicate a lot.  He will be able to have his cell phone, just can't have it on him during the day or evening while in class. That will be a very welcome change after boot camp, as communication is extremely limited during boot.

I will allow others with loved ones already on a boat to commend on the communication while underway.  I think it will be very limited.

Comment by Angela on February 9, 2019 at 11:32am
Hi!!
I am brand new to all of this. My son is shipping out to boot camp in July and has decided he wants to be SECF on a submarine. Can anyone give me an idea of what this is like? How often will he be able to contact us? I am excited for him but nervous for me!!
Comment by CSW on January 8, 2019 at 9:57am

ArchyMom,

Congrats and glad you had that time with your sailor!

Happy New Year!  Here we all go!

Comment by ArchyMom on January 5, 2019 at 1:00am

Hi all, it's been awhile since I was on this page. Since last spring when my sailor left for Guam, he has earned his Dolphins. He was able to come home for Christmas this year, which will be the last time for a few years. I had to laugh and share B'sNukeMoM's cartoon with him because he had a few fart stories to tell... too funny. Hope all are well.

Comment by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) on January 4, 2019 at 5:25pm

Ok sorry but I just had to share this with you ;-D

Comment by LindaGirl on January 3, 2019 at 11:15pm

Happy New Year, to all my SeaSistes, who are  travelling  on this journey with me as we stand behind and support our Sailors, as they fore-fill their mission to make our country a safer place for us to live in. 

Comment by CSW on January 2, 2019 at 9:49am

Well our sailor just took off this morning to drop off his vehicle and begin the trip to Pearl. Excited and sad all at once.

It was wonderful having him home, but very excited for his next chapter.  His boat scheduled to be in drydock most of his posting so we'll see how that goes.

Happy New Year!

 
 
 

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