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Comment by Cath Bubblehead mom on December 31, 2017 at 4:29pm

LindaGirl - I hear ya - I think the more clinical depression is recognized and treated, more young lives will be saved. Although, recently a high school student, who had been diagnosed and was getting treatment and whose parents were teachers, committed suicide. The parents and the school staff were vigilant and still could not prevent it.

I think with the death of Robin Williams a few years back, depression started to get more awareness. It is chemical and is not something that you "get over".

I am not saying this was the case with this sailor, as I do not know. But many successful suicides are with people who suffer from depression. 

Comment by LindaGirl on December 31, 2017 at 4:15pm

Cath Bubblehead, thank you for your insight on this sad and tragic topic.  If only there was some type of fail-safe screening, for all ages and genders.

Comment by Cath Bubblehead mom on December 31, 2017 at 3:16pm

As a teacher and a church organist, I have had to deal with suicides at various levels. There is extreme guilt from those left behind. All the would have, should have, could haves dominate.

I do know that if someone is intent on ending their life, there is little you can do to stop it. If you suspect someone is contemplating suicide you need to notify someone who is better equipped to help them.

Sadly, suicides and attempts are not uncommon at Groton (I cannot speak for other schools) It happened when my son was there a few years ago. But it also happened when I was teaching middle & high school -usually during springtime. 

As survivors, we don't understand it, but many who commit suicide suffer from depression. I would imagine that given the age of most of these young sailors, it may not have been diagnosed. My prayers are offered for all those affected. The sailor, his family & friends, the base. There will never be an answer to the question - "Why?"

Comment by LindaGirl on December 31, 2017 at 12:42pm

Real Mimi, I am so sorry for the loss of your grandson, almost a year ago. I pray that one day, you and your entire family can somehow find peace and comfort through the grace of God, and move forward with your lives.  My husband, who is a Navy vet, has told me that if a sailor has attempted suicide, they will be discharged from the Navy after counseling as they are very sensitive to the issue and don’t want to take chances with any lives, so I’m thinking it probably is not the same Sailor your grandson tried to help and counsel.   (((HUGS)))

Comment by CO-TwinSalorsMom on December 31, 2017 at 12:41am

LindaGirl. My heart hurts for your son and the sailor who passed. Such a tragedy. And at Christmas time no less. I prayed for the family of the lost sailor and for your son. I think a visit to or from your pastor is an excellent idea. This will be hard for him for a long time. Glad he can be with you and you can gently care for him. 

Comment by MaineGrammy on December 30, 2017 at 7:41pm

Oh LindaGirl, so hard to read this.  I pray your pastor was able to lend the support needed.  Will keep your son and the family in prayers.  Also those touched by this young man.  

Comment by LindaGirl on December 30, 2017 at 6:43pm

Thank you to all who posted prayers for the family of the young sailor whom my son tried to help, as well as prayers and encouragement for my son’s well-being in a very tragic situation.

Comment by Shea on December 30, 2017 at 2:58pm

Oh LindaGirl I’m so sorry to read this my prayers to you and your son and for the sailor that was lost. I would definitely have so son talk to your Pastor. The command should offer some type of council once your son is back. My son’s sub was in dry dock when he first got to Hawaii and it is frustrating for them not to be able to do the job that they went to school for all those months. I’ll be praying that his sub is repaired quickly. Sending lots of prayers and hugs to you both.

Comment by The Real Mimi on December 30, 2017 at 1:40pm

Lindagirl I posted a comment earlier from my phone but don't see it here, actually it  was a reply to an email. I am very distressed to hear this new about your son and the sailor he found. My prayers are going out for you your son and the sailor and his family. My grandson is home for the holiday but is finishing A school at Groton. Drake had been at boot camp for 9 days when his younger brother (13) took his life. He was able to leave boot camp and come home for the services. We as a family have been dealing with suicide and all the issues that come with it since Feb. 16,2017. My sailor has been helping another sailor in his barracks that has bee dealing with suicidal thoughts and attempts. He sat with the sailor for a long time one night and called for help for him. He was taken to the hospital and put in counseling. I'm praying that this is not the same sailor because I don't know how my grandson would handle it. As for your son anyone that finds someone that has committed suicide has gone through a very tramatic situation and should get some kind of counseling. Please get some help for your son. My daughter that found her son has PTS and many other issues from the suicide of her son. This also concerns me if this is two different sailors then what is going on that they are having these thought and feelings??? Prayers for all. 

Therealmimi

Comment by Cath Bubblehead mom on December 30, 2017 at 1:23pm

LindaGirl I am so sorry for your son. I am sure he is feeling guilty over not being able to save him. The guilt is misplaced because he did everything and bcause of him the sailor did not die alone. Encourage him to share his feelings because this is difficult to process. If he is willing to talk to a clergy that might help.

Your son and the sailor are in my prayers.

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