My son went in as an E-3 as well and the earliest potential he has for E-4 is after A school graduation. At least, that's how I understand it. The rank thing is interesting because they don't get to wear rank in boot camp until after Battlestations, which happens at the very end of boot camp. Up until then, they are all considered "Recruits" with the potential to be Sailors if they pass all the requirements. So my son went in at E-3 and finally got to actually wear that rank during the last week of boot camp in the days just prior to graduation.
They won't get E4 until after C school and then they may have to wait. My son graduated C school oct 31 and is still E3 because his ship hasn't allowed him to put E4 on yet. Once they do he will get back pay but for now he is ISSN E3
My Sailor graduated A school mid November and is to start C school in Feb however since he is reserves and they did not want him to just be on hold all that time he was transferred back to Great Lakes for Boatwains mate A school. should be back in Dam Neck for C-school in Imagery at the beginning of Feb. Others I have spoke to have never heard of a Sailor having to go through another A school while on hold. He would like to go active duty and states he has asked but was told he had to finish up his reserve contract.
A few sailors have done other IS C schools while waiting for their C school to class up. I've never heard of one staying at GL to train in another rate. Totally uncommon since boatswains mate is ship's company while ISes are generally "attached" to a squadron, ship, base, etc. Always good to know more (believe me it helps them when it comes time for advancement testing).
All IS contracts are 8 years (6 active, two inactive reserves).
The sailors cannot be advanced to E4 until after their C school when they pass their national board exam or whatever it is at the end of C school. Anna's son was the same way. They get their crow once they are at their first station. Each command is a little different in how long the sailor is there before they are "frocked".
My son is stationed with the Pacific Fleet. He has been in back-to-back assignments overseas. I'd rather he be Atlantic/South American Fleet so he could be stationed much closer to home but....He has his family with him so he is happy and he LOVED his first station. Seoul, S Korea.
My son also did back-to-back deployments. Meaning no shore duty in between. Both assignments on aircraft carriers. Even though he was on different carriers both of them headed out to the sunny, sandy area.
His current duty station is in Norfolk. The East coast carriers head out to the Mediterranean Sea/Arabian Sea/Persian Gulf areas. The West coast carriers head out to Japan/Korea areas.
His orders haven't been officially cut but his new assignment looks like Italy. He's very excited! It will be a three year assignment.
Promotions on a ship can be strange. Even though a sailor has enough time in grade to be promoted, some commands say that the time wasn't served on their ship so the waiting period gets extended. The ship's command wants the sailor to prove himself/herself aboard ship before they recommend promotion.
All in all, my sailor loves what he does and is extremely happy that he chose IS. It is a small community and it is easier for sailors to get recognized and make a name for themselves. Plus the IS rates really push the sailors towards education and advancement.
IS sounds great I just hope my daughter does well in school. Also I hope she will be able to get a job when she gets out of the Navy, because she doesn't want to continue doing anything like that when she gets out. She actually want to go to school for fashion of all things
My son is also stationed in Norfolk, but is currently on deployment onboard a ship. He had a deployment last year in Afghanistan teaching the Afghan Air Force. He was prior AO, switched to IS in 2008.
My duaghter is curerrently in boot camp and will be graduating 3/20. I know that her A school is in Dam Neck but where is C shcool? Also, she will not have a car in Virginia. Are there a lot of kids that will have cars that she can hang out with on the weekends?
My son has about 3 weeks of A School left at Dam Neck. I believe they have to earn the privilege of wearing civilian clothes, to have a car, to have liberty/leave. One of my son's friends was able to go home on a weekend and get his car but his parents did live fairly close by. I believe C School is also at Dam Neck.
C school is in dam neck. It's a pretty stressful school, is anyone elses IS stressed? And yes there are a lot without cars, they usually get taxis together since it's cheaper.
wow lots of comments today im glad to see people whohoo my sailor just graduated Aschool today Cschool also there they get out when they have time bus or shuttles I believe and some have vehicles if family is close enuf
but usually not a lot of time . . my sailor has been stressed since he arrived but he got his orders which he is pleased with and is doing much better with school
My son is in C school. He only has a couple months left. He has also received his orders and is very happy with them which really helped with the stress. A school taught him how to study in the most efficient way. I think C school has been less stressful in that he knows what he will be doing. He is very excited about graduating and starting his career.
I will tell you that my son was first stationed in South Korea and is now finishing his time in Japan. I will tell you this fall where he is going next. Many of those places have several bases (some are Navy, some are joint commands, some are intel based for all branches and/or several nations) so I have learned after a while to not be too specific anymore about the actual base he is at. There are several bases in Japan so saying he is there is no biggie really. Once he and his family are safe at their next assignment I can post more about that one.
Laura, Chris had to wait a few months before he finally got his written orders this time. I tend to think that when they work with squadrons, things that require paperwork takes much longer than average to process. Best of luck to him (I know Chris would still be jealous if he knew there had been an opening soon after for Italy).
I can tell you some of the places he has done 2-5 day port of call visits..Brisbane, Australia, Guam, Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines, Dubai, Monte Carlo, Hong Kong and others I can't remember. He has also taken vacations to Cambodia and Vietnam.
The C schools are also at Dam Neck and if I'm not mistaken they are in the same building as the A school. There might be some training times that are not in the building, but that's where the Intel schools are all based.
My daughter has been an IS for 5 years. Has preformed in more then one specialty but was trained in one. She has re-upped and will cross train in a new specialty for her new orders.
So cool to "see" you still!!!! Congratulations to your daughter!!!!! My first Navy daughter got out and is going to college, but now her twin sister is an officer!!! IS son is still in!!!! How is your son????
Talking in generalities is fine. Bragging rights are attractive. Specific information is not good. My sailor had been working for several years, and is getting less willing to have anything Said.
Hi Anna. My son is now out. He had a hard time of it, he was an IS also and was given an Honorable discharge after 3 years. Ladies, I'm here to tell you, this isn't an easy rate. We've experience what good the military life can do for you and what is can do to you. It has been good to our daughter but not so good for our son. It isn't for everyone. My best to your children, ladies; I hope they're blessed as my daughter.
I think our grown children can get into a lot of trouble if to much is shared and the worse is if others outside us can see locations and times. It's more of a safety issue.My son tells me less and less and that's O.K. because all I really want to know is if he is happy with his choices and the future potential.
I so understand your comments. My daughter had bad experiences in the Navy and is out on disability. My son has learned how to make it work for him and even wanted to help his sister but in the end she decided to get out and go to college.
Hello, I'm wondering if anyone here could tell me realistically how often their IS is deployed or otherwise away from their spouse/kids. I'm excited but I'm also worrying myself to death about everything...
It depends on so many things. Like where your sailor is attached, ship or shore command. Where they are stationed. It's impossible to determine ahead of time. My son started as an AO attached to a squadron and he was deployed many times. Sometimes still in the states but away from home base other times deployed on a ship in the middle east. As an IS he's been in Afghanistan and is now on a ship in the Gulf area. But many times he's just been at a shore command. One thing to keep in mind - - - it's always the needs of the Navy!!!!
Hello! I have a few questions about A school. My fiance wants to get married as soon as they will let him and then have me move to Norfolk and most likely stay at an extended stay hotel until he gets permanent orders. Is this realistic? How often would we see each other?
How long does it take for C school to start after A school?
A school is 5 weeks of general IS information.C School is different. It just depends on which one he chooses before you know how long it will last. And you also don't know how long the wait is for classes to start because they want to start a class full not with just a few people. They also need their full attention to their studies. They can't take study material home, it all has to be done on base. My son waited until after he finished C school before they got married. Hope that helps.
What's after the 5 weeks? His papers said approx 13 weeks for A school, but they just told him 98 days NOT counting weekends, so 5 months. 5 weeks would be no big deal, but 5 month plus C school seems a bit excessive to be apart if it's not actually necessary...
My son started A school the second week of December and will graduate on April 10. Almost exactly 4 months. His schedule is basically go to class every day from 6 am to 4 pm. Break for dinner. Go back to class for mandatory study time from 6 pm to around 10 pm. Some days or nights and other weekend-ish he has duty. Meaning he's working to protect the base. And he had to phase up before he had permission to leave base. Both schools are extremely challenging.
A school has changed then. When my son was there, 5 weeks was about the time they phased up to full privileges His A school (and all IS A schools at that time) was 13 weeks and then the C schools were 5- I think about 9 weeks? I don't remember for sure. Someone correct me if I am wrong. After 6 years my mind is a bit more feeble. :-)
When my son was there. They phased up after 4 where they could leave base. Two weeks they were able to wear civies on base. He was there for 9 months but he did 2 C schools. One was longer than the other. He got his orders after the first C school but needed him to do another specialty. His ship wasn't ready yet at the time. It was only commissioned in October.
My daughter started A school on March 23rd. They had to wait a week for a class to fill up. Her group had immediate weekend priviliges. They could leave the base as soon as they arrived, but they just had to be in uniform. They have been taking taxis all over the place! I was so surprised.
My son was going the special forces route, but ended up dropping due to injury and just found out he got IS. Since he's already gained weekend privileges, he will retain those when he gets to VA, correct? Also was wondering if there is a FB group for families of sons/daughters in IS? Feel free to send me a private message with a link if it's not allowed to be posted on the page. Thanks!
I'm new to the Navy and I really appreciate the feedback I've already received! My daughter has PIR in a couple of weeks and then off to VA the next day. Just wondering what or what not is provided as far as bedding, sheets, blankets, pillows. Is she required to bring her own? Trying to plan what to send her or if she'll have what she needs to carry her over for a week or two. Any feedback, input is appreciated.
Susanr, Your daughter will be given bedding and such while she's at A and eventually C school. You might want to caution her about taking too much stuff with her to Dam Neck because as soon as she graduates she has to get all her stuff to her next duty station. Also, I will just let you know that some find A school to be rather intense. It is a lot of studying and the studying can only be done in the classrooms because of security. My son switched to IS after spending 4 years as an AO and even as a fleet returnee and all his experience, he really had to buckle down and pay attention to his studies!! He's married and didn't even have his wife stay in VA with him. She was in Colorado until just before his graduation from C school.
I did end up moving here and getting a short term lease apartment. He was able to leave weekends during phase 1, weekdays during phase 2, and will be able to do overnight weekends during phase 3. It's gonna be exactly 13 weeks from the day he arrived to graduation, and he wants to get the longest C school (which is like 16 weeks) so I'm glad we decided to move! They get put on mandatory study hours for their most difficult chapters, but that's almost over. And we're getting married tomorrow!
They were really nice about his chits and helpful with the whole process so far, for any future people wondering if they'll have trouble getting theirs approved. He has tons of classmates getting/recently got married, including one guy who was allowed to go to his wife's A school (double navy couple)!
I was wondering if someone could give me some information. My daughter has been an IS for almost 6 years, but she will now be cross training to a different IS job between her current job and reporting to her new command. Because she will be moving crosscountry, how does she go about moving everything, getting her daughter across country for us to watch while she is at school and finding a new place to live once she is done with training. It seems very complicated with her going from one coast to the other. . I know the Navy will help move her household goods, but when would that happen, before she reports for school or after. Doesn't seem logical for her to keep her apartment for almost 3 months when there will be no one living in it, since school is more then 3 hours from her current command. Any help or advice would be appreciated.
As far as her household goods she might want to put her stuff in storage until after her school and then put in for her pcs move once she gets to her next duty station and finds a new place to live. That's what my son did. How old is her daughter? Would she be old enough to fly? I know airlines can arrange for children to fly on their own but I'm sure there are some limitations. Not too sure how that works, no experience there!!!!
Kids can fly alone but you generally have to pay for someone from the airline to escort them during the trip. The cost varies greatly by the age of the child and the airline. I don't know what the limits are but they are pretty strict about it all nowadays. My niece was 14 and only got out of having an escort because she was flying with my nephew who was 17 at the time. I agree with Anna, temp storage for now...move her things across country later when she sees what her housing situation will be like and when housing will be available.
Our Granddaughter Chloe is almost 4, so she is too young to fly alone. From the sound of it, it would probably be best to keep some thing for her use while in training, put the rest into storage until she is done with her schooling, then have her household goods and furniture moved across country. We will also need to get some of Chloes' things across country too. Just a lot of back and forth trips is what it sounds like.
BarbRags
He's been out of boot camp almost 2 years. He was made E-4 after C school. He went in as an E-3
Jan 14, 2015
hishippygirl
My son went in as an E-3 as well and the earliest potential he has for E-4 is after A school graduation. At least, that's how I understand it. The rank thing is interesting because they don't get to wear rank in boot camp until after Battlestations, which happens at the very end of boot camp. Up until then, they are all considered "Recruits" with the potential to be Sailors if they pass all the requirements. So my son went in at E-3 and finally got to actually wear that rank during the last week of boot camp in the days just prior to graduation.
Jan 14, 2015
MaryNavywife/mom
Jan 14, 2015
Lisa
Jan 14, 2015
dogdoc
Where are some of your IS sailors stationed? thanks!
Jan 14, 2015
Proud mom (Nate' Mom)
Jan 14, 2015
Mary (Chris' mom)
A few sailors have done other IS C schools while waiting for their C school to class up. I've never heard of one staying at GL to train in another rate. Totally uncommon since boatswains mate is ship's company while ISes are generally "attached" to a squadron, ship, base, etc. Always good to know more (believe me it helps them when it comes time for advancement testing).
All IS contracts are 8 years (6 active, two inactive reserves).
The sailors cannot be advanced to E4 until after their C school when they pass their national board exam or whatever it is at the end of C school. Anna's son was the same way. They get their crow once they are at their first station. Each command is a little different in how long the sailor is there before they are "frocked".
My son is stationed with the Pacific Fleet. He has been in back-to-back assignments overseas. I'd rather he be Atlantic/South American Fleet so he could be stationed much closer to home but....He has his family with him so he is happy and he LOVED his first station. Seoul, S Korea.
Good luck to all!
Jan 14, 2015
Laura
My son also did back-to-back deployments. Meaning no shore duty in between. Both assignments on aircraft carriers. Even though he was on different carriers both of them headed out to the sunny, sandy area.
His current duty station is in Norfolk. The East coast carriers head out to the Mediterranean Sea/Arabian Sea/Persian Gulf areas. The West coast carriers head out to Japan/Korea areas.
His orders haven't been officially cut but his new assignment looks like Italy. He's very excited! It will be a three year assignment.
Promotions on a ship can be strange. Even though a sailor has enough time in grade to be promoted, some commands say that the time wasn't served on their ship so the waiting period gets extended. The ship's command wants the sailor to prove himself/herself aboard ship before they recommend promotion.
All in all, my sailor loves what he does and is extremely happy that he chose IS. It is a small community and it is easier for sailors to get recognized and make a name for themselves. Plus the IS rates really push the sailors towards education and advancement.
Jan 15, 2015
Lisa
Jan 15, 2015
Anna
My son is also stationed in Norfolk, but is currently on deployment onboard a ship. He had a deployment last year in Afghanistan teaching the Afghan Air Force. He was prior AO, switched to IS in 2008.
Jan 15, 2015
Anj01
Jan 30, 2015
georgiapeach
My son has about 3 weeks of A School left at Dam Neck. I believe they have to earn the privilege of wearing civilian clothes, to have a car, to have liberty/leave. One of my son's friends was able to go home on a weekend and get his car but his parents did live fairly close by. I believe C School is also at Dam Neck.
Jan 30, 2015
kc74
Jan 30, 2015
Anj01
kc74 thanks for the info.
Jan 30, 2015
crybabymama
wow lots of comments today im glad to see people whohoo my sailor just graduated Aschool today Cschool also there they get out when they have time bus or shuttles I believe and some have vehicles if family is close enuf
but usually not a lot of time . . my sailor has been stressed since he arrived but he got his orders which he is pleased with and is doing much better with school
Jan 31, 2015
sh04div812adammom
My son is in C school. He only has a couple months left. He has also received his orders and is very happy with them which really helped with the stress. A school taught him how to study in the most efficient way. I think C school has been less stressful in that he knows what he will be doing. He is very excited about graduating and starting his career.
Jan 31, 2015
dogdoc
Jan 31, 2015
Gingerman
@dogdoc: đon't. The less said the better. They work with computers, somewhere.
Jan 31, 2015
Mary (Chris' mom)
I will tell you that my son was first stationed in South Korea and is now finishing his time in Japan. I will tell you this fall where he is going next. Many of those places have several bases (some are Navy, some are joint commands, some are intel based for all branches and/or several nations) so I have learned after a while to not be too specific anymore about the actual base he is at. There are several bases in Japan so saying he is there is no biggie really. Once he and his family are safe at their next assignment I can post more about that one.
Laura, Chris had to wait a few months before he finally got his written orders this time. I tend to think that when they work with squadrons, things that require paperwork takes much longer than average to process. Best of luck to him (I know Chris would still be jealous if he knew there had been an opening soon after for Italy).
I can tell you some of the places he has done 2-5 day port of call visits..Brisbane, Australia, Guam, Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines, Dubai, Monte Carlo, Hong Kong and others I can't remember. He has also taken vacations to Cambodia and Vietnam.
The C schools are also at Dam Neck and if I'm not mistaken they are in the same building as the A school. There might be some training times that are not in the building, but that's where the Intel schools are all based.
Jan 31, 2015
JM-ISmomx2
My daughter has been an IS for 5 years. Has preformed in more then one specialty but was trained in one. She has re-upped and will cross train in a new specialty for her new orders.
Jan 31, 2015
Anna
JM,
So cool to "see" you still!!!! Congratulations to your daughter!!!!! My first Navy daughter got out and is going to college, but now her twin sister is an officer!!! IS son is still in!!!! How is your son????
Jan 31, 2015
Gingerman
Jan 31, 2015
JM-ISmomx2
Hi Anna. My son is now out. He had a hard time of it, he was an IS also and was given an Honorable discharge after 3 years. Ladies, I'm here to tell you, this isn't an easy rate. We've experience what good the military life can do for you and what is can do to you. It has been good to our daughter but not so good for our son. It isn't for everyone. My best to your children, ladies; I hope they're blessed as my daughter.
Feb 1, 2015
sh04div812adammom
I think our grown children can get into a lot of trouble if to much is shared and the worse is if others outside us can see locations and times. It's more of a safety issue.My son tells me less and less and that's O.K. because all I really want to know is if he is happy with his choices and the future potential.
Feb 1, 2015
Anna
JM,
I so understand your comments. My daughter had bad experiences in the Navy and is out on disability. My son has learned how to make it work for him and even wanted to help his sister but in the end she decided to get out and go to college.
Feb 1, 2015
Laura
"Needs of the Navy"...the reason we write in pencil and not pen.
Erase Italy and pencil in Hawaii. And move it up a few months while you're at it! Keeps things interesting.
Mary - I guess the Italy openings are a hot ticket and are few and far between. It's no wonder getting orders assigned are like a bumper car match.
All in all, it's Hawaii and it's finally a shore assignment!
Feb 2, 2015
Anna
Laura,
We all understand those last minute changes!!! Needs of the Navy is right!! Gotta love these roller coaster rides!
Feb 2, 2015
Lisa
Feb 3, 2015
MaryNavywife/mom
Feb 3, 2015
Goat
Feb 15, 2015
Anna
Goat,
It depends on so many things. Like where your sailor is attached, ship or shore command. Where they are stationed. It's impossible to determine ahead of time. My son started as an AO attached to a squadron and he was deployed many times. Sometimes still in the states but away from home base other times deployed on a ship in the middle east. As an IS he's been in Afghanistan and is now on a ship in the Gulf area. But many times he's just been at a shore command. One thing to keep in mind - - - it's always the needs of the Navy!!!!
Feb 16, 2015
Goat
Feb 17, 2015
Anna
Goat,
Keep us posted as to what he ends up with!!!!
Feb 17, 2015
Goat
How long does it take for C school to start after A school?
Mar 7, 2015
JM-ISmomx2
A school is 5 weeks of general IS information.C School is different. It just depends on which one he chooses before you know how long it will last. And you also don't know how long the wait is for classes to start because they want to start a class full not with just a few people. They also need their full attention to their studies. They can't take study material home, it all has to be done on base. My son waited until after he finished C school before they got married. Hope that helps.
Mar 8, 2015
Goat
Mar 8, 2015
hishippygirl
Mar 8, 2015
Mary (Chris' mom)
A school has changed then. When my son was there, 5 weeks was about the time they phased up to full privileges His A school (and all IS A schools at that time) was 13 weeks and then the C schools were 5- I think about 9 weeks? I don't remember for sure. Someone correct me if I am wrong. After 6 years my mind is a bit more feeble. :-)
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Mar 8, 2015
BarbRags
Mar 8, 2015
Anj01
Apr 8, 2015
JinCincy
My son was going the special forces route, but ended up dropping due to injury and just found out he got IS. Since he's already gained weekend privileges, he will retain those when he gets to VA, correct? Also was wondering if there is a FB group for families of sons/daughters in IS? Feel free to send me a private message with a link if it's not allowed to be posted on the page. Thanks!
May 15, 2015
georgiapeach
JinCincy - sent you a friend request, My son is IS, also in VA.
May 16, 2015
Susanr
Hello,
I'm new to the Navy and I really appreciate the feedback I've already received! My daughter has PIR in a couple of weeks and then off to VA the next day. Just wondering what or what not is provided as far as bedding, sheets, blankets, pillows. Is she required to bring her own? Trying to plan what to send her or if she'll have what she needs to carry her over for a week or two. Any feedback, input is appreciated.
May 19, 2015
Anna
Susanr,
Your daughter will be given bedding and such while she's at A and eventually C school. You might want to caution her about taking too much stuff with her to Dam Neck because as soon as she graduates she has to get all her stuff to her next duty station. Also, I will just let you know that some find A school to be rather intense. It is a lot of studying and the studying can only be done in the classrooms because of security. My son switched to IS after spending 4 years as an AO and even as a fleet returnee and all his experience, he really had to buckle down and pay attention to his studies!! He's married and didn't even have his wife stay in VA with him. She was in Colorado until just before his graduation from C school.
May 19, 2015
Goat
I did end up moving here and getting a short term lease apartment. He was able to leave weekends during phase 1, weekdays during phase 2, and will be able to do overnight weekends during phase 3. It's gonna be exactly 13 weeks from the day he arrived to graduation, and he wants to get the longest C school (which is like 16 weeks) so I'm glad we decided to move! They get put on mandatory study hours for their most difficult chapters, but that's almost over. And we're getting married tomorrow!
They were really nice about his chits and helpful with the whole process so far, for any future people wondering if they'll have trouble getting theirs approved. He has tons of classmates getting/recently got married, including one guy who was allowed to go to his wife's A school (double navy couple)!
May 20, 2015
Anna
Goat,
CONGRATULATIONS on the upcoming marriage!!!! So happy that things have worked out so smoothly for both of you!!!!!
May 21, 2015
JM-ISmomx2
I was wondering if someone could give me some information. My daughter has been an IS for almost 6 years, but she will now be cross training to a different IS job between her current job and reporting to her new command. Because she will be moving crosscountry, how does she go about moving everything, getting her daughter across country for us to watch while she is at school and finding a new place to live once she is done with training. It seems very complicated with her going from one coast to the other. . I know the Navy will help move her household goods, but when would that happen, before she reports for school or after. Doesn't seem logical for her to keep her apartment for almost 3 months when there will be no one living in it, since school is more then 3 hours from her current command. Any help or advice would be appreciated.
May 22, 2015
Anna
JM,
As far as her household goods she might want to put her stuff in storage until after her school and then put in for her pcs move once she gets to her next duty station and finds a new place to live. That's what my son did. How old is her daughter? Would she be old enough to fly? I know airlines can arrange for children to fly on their own but I'm sure there are some limitations. Not too sure how that works, no experience there!!!!
May 23, 2015
Mary (Chris' mom)
Kids can fly alone but you generally have to pay for someone from the airline to escort them during the trip. The cost varies greatly by the age of the child and the airline. I don't know what the limits are but they are pretty strict about it all nowadays. My niece was 14 and only got out of having an escort because she was flying with my nephew who was 17 at the time. I agree with Anna, temp storage for now...move her things across country later when she sees what her housing situation will be like and when housing will be available.
May 24, 2015
JM-ISmomx2
Our Granddaughter Chloe is almost 4, so she is too young to fly alone. From the sound of it, it would probably be best to keep some thing for her use while in training, put the rest into storage until she is done with her schooling, then have her household goods and furniture moved across country. We will also need to get some of Chloes' things across country too. Just a lot of back and forth trips is what it sounds like.
May 25, 2015