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Jun 10, 2017
blackbirdmom
@nise4295, your sailor should be able to tell you at PIR (or before). Certain rates train in different places. Our sailor is GSE rate, so his A school is GL. Do you know what your SR's rate is?
@ProudNavyGirlfriend - they do not come home after boot camp. Some will go straight to A school, some will be on hold for their schools. Most will not get leave to go home until after their A school is finished, before they report to their first duty station. There is a lot to read on this site. Lemonelephant usually posts links to the sections about rates and liberty/leave and things like that. I do advise you to join the groups for your sailor's A school, those can be helpful after PIR.
Jun 10, 2017
blackbirdmom
@ProudNavyGirlfriend job = rate
Oh, and don't ever count on anything being exactly what it "should" be in terms of time. The Navy does things on its own timetable. Our sailor was in a push division so went through PIR a week earlier than we expected. Then he was on hold for 2 weeks for BECC. Next he was supposed to be on hold for a week for A school, but that was bumped up to 2 days of hold. After PIR is when the real learning begins, all the rules and regulations of USN life, plus learning for their rate, etc.
Jun 10, 2017
NMRob
@BigDrock98 got my form letter today! Ship 14 Div 227. Our sons are together! Already heading to post office.
When he letter was received, I started shaking just to see I received the letter from him. My emotions are running right now.
Jun 10, 2017
BigDRock98
Jun 10, 2017
NMRob
@BigDRock98 we booked at Navy Lodge also. So exciting. Can't wait to receive a letter and hear his voice.
Jun 10, 2017
ScooterGirl
Many families choose to suspend service to their SR phones while they are in BC so they aren't paying for something that's not being used for 8 weeks. They have it turned back on right before PIR. It's a personal choice. We choose to leave it on , since it didn't really save us that much money suspending the service to his phone.
Jun 10, 2017
lemonelephant
rate = pay grade
rating = job or occupational specialty
After the Sailor completes "A" School, rate and rating go together to make the rate badge and then many simply refer to that as the rate.
Jun 10, 2017
Joni
The count down is almost done. Less than 17 hours and our son will be heading to boot camp.
Jun 10, 2017
lemonelephant
Joni, he will head to the hotel on Sunday and be sworn in and head to the RTC on Monday. Welcome to the journey.
Jun 11, 2017
Joni
Lemonelephant... Just three more hours until we drop him off at the recruiters then he heads to the hotel. It’s been an emotional weekend but we are so proud of him.
Jun 11, 2017
SailorsLIMom
It was such an emotional day for us! But worries were eased when we saw our future Sailor looking happy. She's set for PIR (graduation) on June 23, and I think we'll be meeting a more grown-up, self-confident young adult then. (Even if only for a short time before A school)!
Jun 11, 2017
Sasysweet
Jun 11, 2017
tutorlady
Jun 11, 2017
lemonelephant
Sassysweet, he will not have much extra room at "A" School and he will already have his Seabag, hanging bag and black backpack to carry and has to be able to carry all of his things himself. Take things that he can add to his black backpack and don't add another piece of luggage.See the info in PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend. (That link is also in the info I previously left on your My Page.)
Jun 12, 2017
ldyastrid
Well - my son is at A-School in Florida ... the research I did is proving that information is not always accurate! He only has 1 roommate - only 2 beds, 2 closets, 1 bathroom - major change from BC - I think that's what's making it so hard for him to adjust to - he doesn't start school till next Monday (I'm sure they'll keep him busy) but he'll have a better opportunity to discover what / where all things are on his new base... the adventure continues!
He told us BC stories while we spent time with him over the weekend - it was so good to have him home for even a short while! out of 96 that started in his division, only 72 made it to PIR! he said something like 1200 started BC - only 796 (or something close to that - I don't remember exact number) went thru PIR! That's substantial difference! While a lot of them were medical separations, there were some that were bounced because of not following orders / rules - he said "doing stupid things and breaking ANY of the top 6 will get you thrown out either completely or to SEPS only to start all over again" alrighty then! I'm glad he wasn't part of that group!
Jun 12, 2017
LOVEMYBOY
Anna, my heart goes out to you and your son. It is everyone's fear to get that call and it can happen to anyone. I will pray that your son has the strength to hold his head up high and to not give up. He obviously has a great heart and no matter where God leads him, he will most certainly be where he is supposed to be. Where God intends him to be, and he will be a stronger more compassionate young man. I also pray for you mom, that God grant you the grace and the words to help him heal and pick himself to continue on. Take care.
Jun 12, 2017
kimberlya
Anna,
I am so sorry! This happened to another Navy mom I was speaking with. Her son received an honorable discharge and arrived home this past Friday. With this discharge, he can get the issue corrected and try Navy or another branch again. Best of luck to you and your son.
Jun 12, 2017
Pooter527
First the doc said he had scoliosis, then allergy to fish, 3rd chronic diarrhea?? I took him to an orthopedic surgeon who said it was only 9 percent and they don't treat it until it reaches 35, then took him to his primary who sent him for a full fish panel and wrote a letter saying he had no allergy and they also wrote a letter stating he had no issues with diarrhea. They had disqualified him on Christmas Eve. Had help from someone in public office and after over a yr he got his ship date.
You can pm me if you'd like.
Jun 12, 2017
herNavymom
Anna, in reading the posts...I am so sorry to hear of your son's discharge. No words...
Jun 12, 2017
MoMom
Jun 12, 2017
lemonelephant
Here are the current PIR groups:
PIR: June 16, 2017 TG 32 - 7 Divisions (187-192 & 932) 4 guests
PIR: June 23, 2017 TG 33 - 11 Divisions (193-202 & 933) 4 guests
PIR: June 30, 2017 TG 34 - 7 Divisions (203-208 & 934) 4 guests
PIR: July 7, 2017 TG 35 - 7 Divisions (209-214 & 935) 4 guests
PIR: July 14, 2017 TG 36 - 9 Divisions (215-220, 815, 816 & 936) 4 guests
PIR: July 21, 2017 TG 37 - 8 Divisions (221-226, 817 & 936) 4 guests
PIR: July 28, 2017 TG 38 - 9 Divisions (227-234 & 938) 4 guests
Click on the date of your recruit’s PIR and join the group to connect with others with loved ones training with your recruit.
Jun 13, 2017
Anti M
Anna, I hope he will call you again soon. A medical discharge can be for several reasons. If they can fix it easily, they keep them. Mt friend broke his leg in boot camp, they kept him for six weeks, then put him back in training. If someone has something which will require surgery, they tend to discharge them. Another thing which can happen is separation if they did not disclose a medical condition, other times a condition is discovered which no one knew about.
Whether he can enlist again will depend on the what and why of the medical separation. He can challenge it in certain circumstances, and must talk to legal about that.
Best wishes to him for whatever path he finds himself on in the future.
Jun 13, 2017
Christine
Jun 13, 2017
Todoit85
Jun 13, 2017
AZ2OH2IL2UT
Anna- I will continue to pray for you. You are so supportive and that is exactly what your son needs right now. God has a plan and maybe right now is not his time to go into the military. God has another purpose for him at this point in his life. It is not goodbye Navy...it is See ya later Navy. He could be back when the time is right. Prayers to your family and blessings for you all.
Jun 13, 2017
ldyastrid
I have 3 prints of the "Dear US Navy" piece I made left - if you would like one, PM me your name and address and I'll send it out tomorrow. First 3 to respond will get them :)
Jun 14, 2017
MerC
@idyastrid I would LOVE one!
Jun 14, 2017
CNY Navy Mom
Jun 14, 2017
PT mom
Jun 14, 2017
ProudNavyGirlfriend
Hi all! I have a question for the ones who were in the dating stage when your sailor left for bootcamp. Did they distance themselves when bootcamp got closer? My boyfriend told me the other day he needed some time apart, because he's going to be so busy with work, working everyday and getting home wanting to go straight to sleep. He said he didn't want it to seem like he wasn't making time for me. I can't help but think that maybe since he leaves in December, he's getting a little anxious and distancing himself to make leaving easier? I don't know, we haven't talked since Friday and I miss him a lot.
Jun 14, 2017
ldyastrid
The prints are all spoken for
(unless I can get more prints - which is in the realm of possibilities!)
Jun 14, 2017
Carol
Proud Navy girlfriend... From what I read your boyfriend is letting you know his needs, work and sleep for right now, and he was being considerate of you by saying he would not be able to put the effort needed for a relationship right now. I would go done day at a time and not read anything into it.
Jun 14, 2017
ProudNavyGirlfriend
Thank you Carol. I just miss him.
Jun 14, 2017
ScooterGirl
Jun 15, 2017
T's mom
ScooterGirl we are having the same issues. We have sent loads of letters as well and in todays letter he is sad and depressed because he is not getting any mail. I really feel bad for my son, but have no clue what to do but keep writing, hopefully they will get them soon. or all of them at once.
Jun 15, 2017
DMS
When I talked to my son on Sunday he said that the mail was really backed up. So hopefully they will get all the letters soon!
Jun 15, 2017
ScooterGirl
Jun 15, 2017
lemonelephant
Here are the current PIR groups:
PIR: June 16, 2017 TG 32 - 7 Divisions (187-192 & 932) 4 guests
PIR: June 23, 2017 TG 33 - 11 Divisions (193-202 & 933) 4 guests
PIR: June 30, 2017 TG 34 - 7 Divisions (203-208 & 934) 4 guests
PIR: July 7, 2017 TG 35 - 7 Divisions (209-214 & 935) 4 guests
PIR: July 14, 2017 TG 36 - 9 Divisions (215-220, 815, 816 & 936) 4 guests
PIR: July 21, 2017 TG 37 - 8 Divisions (221-226, 817 & 936) 4 guests
PIR: July 28, 2017 TG 38 - 9 Divisions (227-234 & 938) 4 guests
Click on the date of your recruit’s PIR and join the group to connect with others with loved ones training with your recruit.
Jun 15, 2017
ScooterGirl
Jun 15, 2017
Antsmom
LOL, I'm reading about the 4 day back log on letters! We're in such a fast paced, tech society that 4 days is considered a back log. I though the idea of mailing stamped envelopes was a great idea for our sailors to write home.
Jun 15, 2017
SailorsLIMom
I thought so too, and gave Daughter 60 stamped postcards (from the post office). We received not a single one--just one batch of letters the whole time. She has never been a writer...at least there were two calls and lots of email chat when they got their tablets. :~/
Jun 15, 2017
nise4295
Which division are your sailors in @ScooterGirl & @SailorsLlMom? We've gotten 2 already from mine in division 221
Jun 15, 2017
SailorsLIMom
Mine is in Div 195. It's just her. At least the email chat lasted a long, long time...
Jun 15, 2017
Sasysweet
Jun 15, 2017
Babybird98
My son is the mail person for Ship 02 DIV 937, anyone else here have a SR in that ship and div?
Jun 15, 2017
Abeckyes
hi, babybird98- my son is ship 02; div 937.
Jun 15, 2017
SailorsLIMom
Sassysweet, after Week 5 (?), they get tablets and have access to email at designated times. This is a privilege and maybe not for every division all the time, but our daughter got to email twice so far.
Jun 15, 2017
Sasysweet
Jun 15, 2017
ScooterGirl
We are receiving letters from him ( I've gotten 3 so far). He's not receiving ours according to his letters. We've mailed roughly 50 letters to him , between everyone who is writing him. As of his last letter it seems like he's only gotten ones written 3 weeks ago
Jun 16, 2017