To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!" To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"
This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)
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B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Dec 9, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Be sure to join your PIR group. Here are the links:
PIR FEBRUARY 2023
PIR JANUARY 2023
PIR DECEMBER 2022
Dec 9, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Dec 9, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Go Navy! Beat Army!
Dec 9, 2022
mathrocks
Thank you @belovedbyHim for the info. My SR left at the end of October and his PIR is 01-06-23. I didn't immediately find this and other online support but wow, what a wonderful community that exists.
Dec 9, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Dec 9, 2022
belovedbyHim
Go Navy Beat Army!!!
mathrocks-- You are welcome. You should be looking the "I'm a Sailor" call to come right before Christmas!! That will be an awesome Christmas Gift to receive!!
Dec 9, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Dec 9, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Dec 12, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
REMINDER - This week's PIR is Wednesday, 12/14/2022.
Be sure to join your PIR group. Here are the links:
PIR FEBRUARY 2023
PIR JANUARY 2023
PIR DECEMBER 2022
Dec 12, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Reminder - for PIR 12/14/2022 Sarge's Meet N Greet is on Tuesday, 12/13/2022.
Dec 12, 2022
Tootie
Happy Monday! I finally got a call from my son yesterday. He's in Phase 3 of rehab and has three weeks left at RCU. He should return to a new division at the end of the month - Yay! It was so great just to hear his voice and find out he's doing good - I'm so proud of how he's handling it all - I sure do wish I could snap my fingers and make it go by quicker for him!
Dec 12, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Tootie - glad you got an update on your son! The 3 weeks will fly by and then the countdown to his PIR - woohoo.
Glad he's doing better. Hang in there!
Dec 12, 2022
Chipmunk
Tootie - That is GREAT news!! I know you have been waiting for that phone call. We are all rooting for him.
This is a short week, at least for PIR!! I don't know if we have anyone that is to be in the ceremony this week or not, but congratulations to all of our new sailors!
Dec 12, 2022
Rosanne
Tootie - Great news!! So happy to hear that!
Dec 12, 2022
belovedbyHim
B's -- That game was PAINFUL!!! There is NO reason that Navy should have gone for it on 3rd down! (Unless it's some obscure college rule for double overtime!)
Tootie -- That's great news. I know it will be bittersweet that he's spending Christmas and New Years in RCU but this is just a small speed bump on his future! He'll come out the other side stronger and more resilient. I'm so glad you finally heard from him and that he's doing so well. We are here for you through this whole adventure!
Dec 13, 2022
belovedbyHim
Dec 13, 2022
belovedbyHim
Gingergirl74 -- Welcome. This is your place to share, vent or comment on Navy life in general. The PIR pages are Private for just your small group so not everyone who helps out on this page will see what is posted there.
Please introduce yourself and let us know where in the Navy Bootcamp process you are. There is a BUNCH of information if you scroll up and read the files. There is a timeline that will help you determine where in the BC Process your SR may be and on the left side is a "Navy Speak" page that will explain some of the lingo we use (Like SR = Seaman Recruit).
If there is any way we can support you, just feel free to share. We haven't lost a mom to Boot Camp yet, We won't start with you!
Dec 13, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Dec 13, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
REMINDER - This week's PIR is Wednesday, 12/14/2022.
Be sure to join your PIR group. Here are the links:
PIR FEBRUARY 2023
PIR JANUARY 2023
PIR DECEMBER 2022
Dec 13, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
belovedbyHim - and they fired Niumatalolo - 15 seasons he coached Navy. I always like him....
Dec 13, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Last PIR for 2022 is tomorrow - 12/14/2022. Do we have anyone here going?
Dec 13, 2022
Chipmunk
Gingergirl74 - Welcome aboard!! We are glad you have joined us!
Dec 13, 2022
cheri39
Hello all, I just wanted a little bit of advice, My son is in GL in week six of basic, and it has been very challenging for him to the point that he is second-guessing his decision to join. over the past two weeks, he has lost a great aunt and a very close cousin. I have written a letter to inform him, but I haven't sent it off yet. I was just wondering has anyone had to go through this? I am trying to figure out if it's best to send the letter now or wait until closer to graduation. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Dec 13, 2022
Chipmunk
cheri39 - First of all my condolences to you and your family!!
Was your son aware of any possible health issues before leaving for BC or was this unexpected? This is always a tough call. Whenever possible, we try to encourage families to talk about these tough things before they leave for BC, but we also miss that opportunity as well, so my apologies for this. Only you can know what is going to affect your child, but many prefer not to say anything, others believe their child should know. The circumstances of the passing can also be difficult and your SR many not have an opportunity to process everything either.
Dec 13, 2022
Northwoodsmom
cheri39, I am so sorry to hear about your loss. BC is really tough on some of the recruits and alot of them at one point or another second guess their choices but give it a couple weeks and that will mostly change for the better. With all the stress they are under I would definitely not add to it with bad news from home. My son was in A school in SC when his Grandma passed away from Covid and I waited even then to tell him knowing with the pandemic he wouldn't of been able to come home anyway. I would personally tell him face to face if you can. Prayers to you both for comfort!
Dec 13, 2022
Tootie
cheri39 - I am so very sorry for your loss. I actually had a conversation with my son before he left for BC and asked him if we had any bad news (loss of family, pets, close friends), would he prefer me to let him know while he's there or wait until after BC. He told me that he would rather not find out until after BC because it would make him feel bad that he couldn't be home for everyone. Since there's nothing he can do but worry and be sad about it there, I would lean towards waiting until after his graduation to tell him - especially since he's a little discouraged anyway. Just my opinion though - you know him better than anyone and what he would want. Prayers to you and your family.
Dec 13, 2022
belovedbyHim
cheri39 -- I am so sorry for your loss.
As for your SR not being sure if they want to stay or not. Telling him of these losses may give him "reasons" to leave. You know him best, Is this a case of truly being in over his head and in the wrong place or is this something that he really wanted for a long time and it's just harder than he thought it would be with the communications limitations. Sometimes being away from home for the first time like this is a bit overwhelming but then when they get into actually doing their job they love it, Then there are other cases where they really don't fit and it's not going to get better. We have another mom who is dealing with that. Once they complete Boot camp it is just about impossible to "Quit" the Navy without long term negative consequences before their contract is up. You know your son better than we do and this is a decision that only he can truly make. Remind him that you'll still love and be proud of him no matter what he chooses. Most folks don't even try so he's got that going for him.
Dec 13, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Due to a change in COVID-19 status, as of Nov. 10, guests attending the weekly graduation ceremony are no longer required to show proof of vaccination to gain access to Recruit Training Command Great Lakes.
However, with the removal of mask wearing and vaccinations, guests should take whatever precautions they deem appropriate for themselves based on their personal risk factors. Vaccinations and subsequent boosters are still strongly recommended by the CDC. Disposable masks are available at the front desk of the RTC visitors center for guests who may wish to utilize one.
Dec 13, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
REMINDER FROM THE US NAVY RECRUIT TRAINING COMMAND FACEBOOK PAGE:
Everyone who is planning on attending a graduation ceremony MUST personally obtain a ticket, which will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center the week of your recruit's graduation. Tickets are free of charge, but you must have valid photo ID to obtain your ticket (driver's license, state ID, military ID, passport, or, for minors, a student ID, driver's permit, SSN card, birth certificate,).
WELCOME CENTER ADDRESS/GPS: Navy Exchange (NEX) Burkey Mall, 2650 Green Bay Road North Chicago, IL 60088 (Do NOT use generic terms such as NEX, Recruit Training Command or Naval Station Great Lakes).
RECRUIT FAMILY WELCOME CENTER HOURS:
Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM] and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:30 AM]
For the graduation ceremony, the direct address to Gate 8 at Ohio Street and Buckley Road, across from the Metra train station is: 11025 Downey Road, North Chicago, Illinois 60064.
All information may be found on our website at www.bootcamp.navy.mil under the Graduation tab.
Dec 13, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
SCHEDULE OF EVENTS:
*Please plan on arriving at least 1.5 hours before the ceremony, which begins promptly at 9:00 a.m.
Dec 13, 2022
Chipmunk
Congratulations to our new sailors!!! For those of you with PIR's in January, today's ceremony is a good opportunity to watch and see what to expect from your sailor's PIR. Or go back and watch the previous videos, you can always fast forward.
RTC Bootcamp website
Wow!! They have updated their website, I guess I haven't been there for a month or so. Be sure to check it out if you haven't already. That was my go-to source for information when my son was in BC, up until the week before PIR when I found N4M!
Live streaming of our graduations begin at 9 a.m. CST every Friday. Videos will also be available for viewing afterwards as well on our Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand and our YouTube channel at: https://www.youtube.com/c/RTCPublicAffairs/community.
Family Brochure
We have a new Family Brochure.
Save this if you did not receive one in the mail, it gives motel information and more.
Dec 14, 2022
Chipmunk
cheri39 - I hope our comments help you with your tough decision. May you find comfort and peace during this time of family loss.
Dec 14, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Happy Wednesday and Happy PIR Day!
Dec 14, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Today's PIR - live:
LIVE PIR 12/14/2022
Dec 14, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Be sure to join your PIR group. Here are the links:
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Dec 14, 2022
cheri39
Good Afternoon all, @ Northwoodsmom, and Chipmunk thank you for your condolences. Both deaths were unexpected. I had a surprise 30-second call on yesterday evening from my son to let me know that he was moving to another ship due to something with covid, but he sounded upbeat "finally" so I guess that was my confirmation that I need to keep him in a good headspace.
Dec 14, 2022
Trey
awesome for the quick call.. sounds like you did make the right choice.. they have enough going on there. I bet they had enough get sick that they must be reorganizing the ships..
changing ships may also be good for him.. I know my son who got washed back found himself in a better division..
Dec 14, 2022
cheri39
Thank you for your kind words Belovedbyhim. My son is very athletic. It has been his dream as a child to join the military so I was somewhat thrown by his moral. I've never really had to yell at him much, so I guess it was all new to him. He watched many YouTube videos before leaving home so I guess he was under the impression it was all going to be a breeze. I tried to prep him as much as I could before he left from my own experiences. He also "fell in love" a few months before leaving lol, so I am just thinking he has been very homesick. However, he was able to call home yesterday for a quick moment, and he sounded good so I am going to keep it there for now. Thanks again
Dec 14, 2022
belovedbyHim
cheri39 -- I'm so glad he's sounding more upbeat. Yes, it's not uncommon for them to get overwhelmed by the "Home sickness" and of course "Falling in LOVE" right before they leave is also hard! And there's no telling what or IF she's writing and adding to his stress!!
That does however add a small wrinkle.... If you know her, You may need to talk to her about NOT telling him of these losses, If you don't know her well and think there is any way she could learn and might share, It would be better for you to inform him. What you DON'T want is for him to learn this information secondhand and with no support available. You can contact the Chaplains at RTC to ask for their support in sharing this information if you feel it is necessary. (847-688-2405) or Red Cross (1-877-272-7337). You do not need to be a person of any particular faith to ask that they be present when your son is informed of these losses. They can just be there to provide a listening ear if you decide that you should
Dec 14, 2022
TorpedoMom
@cheri39 my son finished PIR on Nov 23rd. Approximately 2 weeks before during battle station week, I got a call from his his dad's family saying his biological father was not going to make it & had just a matter of hours. I prayed & wondered what to do. I knew I had the choice of getting in touch with the Red Cross. I chose to wait because we all don't know our timing. I told his fathers family I would tell him, but not today. The next day I sent him a letter via sandbox to call his dad & I gave him the number so that he had it right away. I didn't tell him his dad wasn't doing well, I thought it should come from his dads family. So after doing this I told his dads family that I told him to call home & that I wasn't going to be the individual to bring him out of one of the most important events in his life. Its Dec 14th now & his dad is still alive. I later explained to my son that I could not bring myself to tell him something that was not in our hands. He thanked me. Maybe have the immediate family write him a letter via sandbox to let him know & make sure to tell them to tell him that it is important for him to continue & to continue for those loved ones that passed on. After all, I think the 2 loved ones that passed on would love love love to see him finish if they were still with us. & even looking down from heaven they would not want to see him not finish his dream. Much love to your son & you, cheri39!
Dec 14, 2022
belovedbyHim
TorpedoMom-- First off..... WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP!!! ATTENTION ON DECK... WE HAVE A SAILOR!!! Congratulations!!!
Are you going to be at PIR? I hope he's able to come home for the Holiday stand down!
Second, Thank you for sharing your first hand experience with a similar situation. I'm glad his Bio dad is still alive and I hope he's able to go see him as well. You are correct that we Never know when something unexpected will happen and our lives here will end. That is one of the reasons we post periodically to have that conversation with your Child, especially before they leave, but if not then, for sure as soon as is reasonable. Use wisdom in bringing it up but it's an important conversation to have and then repeat as they progress through their career. It's hard to come home if they are deployed or stationed over seas, being clear on who they will come home for vs who they just want to know but maybe not right away is very helpful. It's sad to miss these big life events but that's the nature of their career.
Dec 14, 2022
Northwoodsmom
TorpedoMom, congratulations to you and your son. Hoping you get to go to the PIR. So very happy for you.
Dec 14, 2022
TorpedoMom
After 10 wks of BC, I proudly watched my son PIR on Nov 23rd! He finished right on time! Though he will always be my little baby boy he went into BC a boy and came out a very much respected man! He is now a Sailor in training in another State. As mothers we are given the responsibility to protect our children. Often, protecting our children includes keeping bad news from them. There was no way I was going to pierce my sons heart during his time in battle stations by telling him his biological father had little time left. After battle stations I did tell him during his 'I'm a sailor' phone call. I also reminded him how he would feel if his dad lived passed Nov 23rd. He decided to wait it out. & his dad is still alive today! It was only through prayer that everything worked out. Our children in BC are dedicated to serving our Country and they train them to know what to do even during the toughest times. Decisions decisions decisions during the most crucial moments are also what they are trained for in BC!! I am now a proud proud mother of a United States Sailor!
Dec 14, 2022
belovedbyHim
TorpedoMom -- Awesome and you are right, Sometime the best thing we can do is keep our mouth shut. I didn't realize that was his PIR date, I thought that was his BS21 date. Either way... Awesome job and I hope he's loving his training phase!
Dec 14, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Dec 15, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Be sure to join your PIR group. Here are the links:
PIR FEBRUARY 2023
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Next PIR isn't until 1/6/2023.
Dec 15, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Dec 16, 2022
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
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Dec 16, 2022
Beachymom⚓️
Dec 16, 2022