CTN

Ladies? I'm from the old Navy, us Sailors had too many skeletons in our closets from the "girls in every port" thing. We never had much room for the "Don't ask, Don't tell" stuff....-ha j/k

CTN's are expanding.... Have your sailors check out the new PEP (Personnel Exchange Program) billets that were just released today.... Woo-hoo!

PEP - that's awesome news for them!!

Hey Craig hate to sound like a dummy once again but explain the PEP and how it will impact them. Thanks!

Mom of 4, I posted info in the link section about PEP.... It is awesome duty....

I don't know much but I did ask my son if they had to have a buddy to leave base and he said no. This was a couple of weeks ago so maybe they are changing it. On a sidenote, my son filled out his dream sheet this week, I wonder how long before he hears about his orders? As far as the link, you go under the discussion forum and go to links, last link listed from yesterday. When I was reading the information on PEP, it sounded as if it was for officers only?

I have this feeling it will TX, soooo far away from me (sigh).

No he is not done yet (I wish he was lol). He is about halfway done and I guess that is the time they do the dreamsheet. I asked my son about the contacts also, he is not in need of them yet but he thought they had to order them on their own and maybe get a discount from the place for military.

CTN does not have C school as far as I know. I believer they combined them into one LONG six month school. I get my kids contacts from lens.com.

Where most Sailors mess up when asking for orders is they don't "Think outside the box". By this, I'm saying, they seem to only look for orders within the CTN detailing section on the NKO account.
What about this crap about “Looking outside the box”?
You have so many other cool jobs using the Special Programs area. Most Sailors are so narrow minded that they never look at these positions.

I was actually screened for two special billets during my career. One was with the White House communication agency. The only reason I didn’t get it was because when they screened my record, I exceeded the weight requirements for the position. Which sucked, because that would have been a really fun job. Here is the info on WHCA duty: www.disa.mil/whca.

The second one was a Personnel Exchange Program (PEP) duty. This is where you work for a foreign government, instead of the U.S. government. I had the hard copies of the orders, and had my household goods shipment all set to go. The billet was in Massett BC, Canada. Masset is located in the Queen Charlotte Islands in Northern British Columbia. My wife and I were extremely excited to go. Well, at the last minute they realize that I would be senior than their head guy, and they couldn’t have that. So the orders were cancelled. It was really disappointing.

So these are the duties that your sailors really need to be looking at, These are the billets that put you ahead of other sailors.

About the contacts lenses. The Navy optician can give your sailor a presciption for them, but they have to buy them with their own money. The cheapest I found is at Sam's club. Remember that the various Sam's club have different prices on the same contacts. If you find a Sam's club within 2 miles of a Costco, then they will be cheapest compared to all the other Sam's clubs. (They sell them under cost just to mess with Costco).

What you may want to tell your sailors if they are over 21, then they can ask the Navy to perform LASIK surgury on their eyes. This totally free. In my town, we have a civilian doctor doing the LASIK for free to 100 military members per year. He does this because he loves our military! Like everyone should....

clockard, he should had said the Lasik wasn't because he needed it for "stare at a computer screen all day", but was needed to stare at the girl with the "breast enhancements"... :)
He needs to make an appointment for an ophthalmologist. In our area, the sailors must be seen by their normal doctor, then they will refer them out.

In the DC area check with Bethesda. He may have to get a consult from his local medical. He might have to go on a waiting list - sometimes a year or longer, but well worth it. I had my LASIK surgery done in Hawaii at Tripler Army Hospital. My eye exams were done at the optometry dept at medical. They can give you a contact and/or glasses exam. My advise is to ask other military people there. Especially the ones that have been there for a while. Someone has to know!

Woo-hoo, Congrats to him from finally be paroled out of Corry Penitentiary. Corry just gets so old after a while....He'll love Ft. Meade and doing what he's trained to do....

Congrats to the new graduate!! Terri, I am praying for those last 4 tests for you son, I know he will do fine. My mine has a big one on Thurs that he is really nervous about!

Susan - I would say a majority of Sailor hate Corry. It's a training command and you always have to be on your toes. Being at a real duty station, not located on a training command, is the real joys. Everyone is just laid back.

My sons class got their orders today. He got Fort Meade MD.

Looked online at apt in the Fort Meade area and...... I hope my son likes comfy card board boxes, everything is sooo darn expensive.

Expensive, but they do get a much larger BAH to cover the extra cost.

My son was offerred this rating this morning. I know nothing about it other than it sounded like a good option compared to what he was offered. How often does the school class up? Is one starting soon? Any information about this rating would be appreciated.

Clokard, I think he accepted. When I spoke with him, they were starting the security clearance which he said could take a week or two. I'm encouraged that this will be a good match.

2byzmom, was your son offered this rating this morning? Sounds like our sons might be in similar situations.

No, he is in PCty and the rate came up this morning.

Clockard, you got me figured out to a "T", you'd knew I would have to say somthing.... So here it goes to you newbies.... CTN is the absolute best rating in the Navy. CTN's have probably the best duty stations. The only problem that any member of this group will tell you is if your sailor wants to go to a ship and see the world, then they will hate the rating since CTN's don't go to sea (per se).
We are mostly all shore duty. Yes, your sailor can volunteer to go to Iraq or Afganistan for IA duty, but thats their choice. The money to be made once they get out will be massive, but only if they complete their college degree when they are in. The SBI security clearance alone will give them an extra $25K over similar jobs without them.
There is only one reason they give these sailors great reenlistement bonuses. That's because too many of them get out and get civilian jobs. So the Navy has to make it worth the sailors wild to stay Navy.....

2byZ- Per the clearance question, is your son cross rating into CTN or is he just joining the Navy now? I can't tell by your post....

Speaking of college, how do they fit it in with their Navy job?

College classes are extremely easy to go to. You sign up for them, and you go to them. Sometimes you're on a rotating schedule. If you are, then the command must let you go to your class instead of going to work. Don't let your sailors tell you they don't have time to attend. They do. If they have time to spend 4 hours on the x-box then then have 4 hours to go to class. 1 class per semester will not kill them.

The only thing that has changed resently is you need to have 1 year in at your 1st duty station before you sign up for classes. This is so you focus on learning your job, before you you do other things. Lastly, you guys always know that I always sight an offical rule (just so you can read it yourself), so just read para 5 here http://www.npc.navy.mil/NR/rdonlyres/E8692AF5-13E3-4C7C-9414-3677C0...

Clockard, you'd think I would remember to post in the link section, but I always forget... Man, I'm getting old.....

Second question for anyone ~ Since CTN school has changed the schooling from 3 months to 6 months... Do the married sailors meet the requirements to bring their families to Pensacola at the cost of the Navy. (ie does the Navy concider this a PCS move?).... It's at the dividing line and I don't know how the school is handling it....Can someone ask their sailor who is now at Corry in school.

Patti, boy this is one subject that really ticks me off about the Navy. Yes they will tell your sailors that they get x amount of credits just for attending CTN school. What they fail to tell you is that the only ones that will accept them all is from some obsolete college in the middle of no where that will give you those credits. Your sailors will tell you, I am eligible for my associates degree once I complete CTN school. You should tell them, "If you get your associates within 6 months, then I will give you $1000, if you don't you pay me $200".... Guaranteed you will be $200 richer after 6 months, Sailors still need to earn the Core class credits... . But yes, the credits will be shown in the ACE guide.
http://www.militaryguides.acenet.edu/ShowAceOccupations.asp?aceid=N...
Clockard, I just did another link.... I just can't help it.....

Normally, you should be able to make E6. However, it is possible to make E7 (read my link below)... My son was a 15 month E5. To make E6 he need to wait 3 years after he became an E5. He could actually take it one year earilier (at your 2 year point after becoming an E5) if he gets a Early Promote (EP) evaluation.
Here is a great link about a 6yr E7 (Chief).... Man, this guy was promoted quick, and it really ticked off the Chiefs community. But heck, the guy earned it....
http://www.soundpublishing.com/index.php/navigator/printerfriendly/...

The guy is now a Mustang. He's a Ensign stationed at the Fort.

Joint Cyber Analysis Course

Welcome ctnRetired.....

Thanks Susan.... That's good info to keep filed....

Haven't been on in awhile. Fed guy showed up yesterday afternoon doing the security clearance. Ironically, our son was home on leave and left yesterday morning to drive down to Pensacola. Will move over to Corry Station later this week. Hope his class starts soon.

OUTSTANDING!!!!! Here are some pics...

Hello all...I find all these post very interesting. I am a retired CTN (hence the username) currently working at Corry Station. I have been retired since 2006, and I have been working on Corry every since. I was involved (as many were) with the establishment of the CTN rating back in 2004, and worked my last 3 years as the CTN rating manager at Corry Station before retiring as a CTNCS. I now work as a contract instructor with the CTN school here at Corry Station (officially called the Joint Cyber Analysis Course or JCAC). I'll try to get on here in between classes to check up on the discussions. Feel free to send me any comments directly to my account if you don't want something posted for all to see.

Retired - Is your 1st name Matt? I know most of the CTN development team.... What was your previous rating? CTM?

Retired - is your name Fred? My son is asking...

Craig, I'm not Matt...he is up in Maryland still. I was the CTN Model Manager (now called Rating Manager). I am Fred Luke, former CTO converted to CTN. I am now one of many instructors for the CTN school here at Corry.

Hello all, I know this is a Navy for Moms site but i have been visiting this site for a while and find it very useful. I just enlisted 2 weeks ago as a CTN and will be leaving in May. I have a few friends in the Navy now and a few a work with that are former enlisted and got me very excited about the whole process. Hope to get to know everyone and hope everyone has a great day.

ge3kswagTony - I would recommend you also try www.NavyDep.com since you're a depper. Lots of good info there... Bottomline - gather as much info as you can before you leave, you'll be glad you did....

Hey Craig, lol you can call me Tony. I actually joined that site a few weeks back but I can't get in anymore. It keeps saying token error.

I bet you can get in now....

lol hahahaha you're awesome. Yes, it works now. Thank you very much!

Tony, I enjoy helping depper.... Make sure your mom signs up for N4M.... It will be great for her while your in bootcamp....

Tony - What is really fun is having your entire family on N4M and tracking you with other family members that have sailors in the same ship (barracks) as you. It's a real blast to compare notes and stepping through your entire bootcamp with others.
So get them on here, and let them have fun too....

Clockard - Didn't you have alot of fun tracking your son with other in his ship? I know I did.....

JCAC is unique in that it is considered both an "A" school and a "C" school. The navy uses JCAC as the "A" school for new accessions (Sailors first entering the navy trying to get rated as a CTN), but for other services it is considered their "C" school (advanced technical school for a particular job.) Most Sailors will get orders somewhere around week 16 to week 20. Immediately after graduation those students will transfer from Corry Station and go to their gaining command (usually leave in between and a couple of days proceed time depending on how far away from Pensacola their ultimate station is located.) Right now there are no additional "C" schools for CTN. The only other option is for those students qualified for ION. We can't discuss that job on this forum, but there are addition requirements for that position. If someone qualifies for that role, they may transfer immediately to Ft Meade, or they may remain on station here until a seat is available for ION at Ft Meade. There is an "F" school here at Pensacola called Joint Network Attack Course (JNAC), but it is usually reserved for senior enlisted and officers.

Hey everyone. I have a daughter in boot camp due to graduate Oct 8th and going to Pensacola on the 9th (Columbus Day weekend) and I have a few questions on how they are running things at Corry these days. I have read about the Phases and know she will not be able to leave base during the first phase. We would rather come see her down at Corry (much closer than GL) than go to her graduation and only be able to see her for a few hours ( Plus, she asked us to come to P'Cola instead). We would hopefully have more time to see her, bring her some of her stuff, and of course we have many friends down there. I guess my questions are will we be able to see her if only on base? I think I read somewhere that they sometimes house them over at NAS?? Will she have to do anything during that first weekend? Thanks for any help you can give me.

For Ret Navy&Mom, current rule is that everyone coming to Corry as a new accession will be placed in Phase I liberty status for 10 days (on base only.) It's a tough one, because it is a 3-day weekend, there is a slight possibility that when she first checks in on Friday, she will be assigned to holding company, and may request leave for the weekend due to family being in the area. They MAY allow it, but normal policy is no off-base liberty or leave until they go to Phase II. Today is a bad day since it is the 15th of Sep all Chiefs are out busy today and tomorrow with the new selectees. I can't get ahold of anyone other than the NMT Qdeck folks who passed on the above info to me.
FYI - when I came to Corry for the first time in was also Columbus Day weekend (1985). I arrived on Friday, bought an airline ticket and spent the weekend in NY with my family. Hope it works out for you and your daughter!

Thanks Fred!

Hello All! I've been going over this site for quite some time now and find the information on here pretty useful. I'm about to go to CTN-A school here soon and was wondering if anyone who lives down there could tell me where I could find a good apartment? Thanks for your help!!!