CTN

Haven't been on in awhile. Fed guy showed up yesterday afternoon doing the security clearance. Ironically, our son was home on leave and left yesterday morning to drive down to Pensacola. Will move over to Corry Station later this week. Hope his class starts soon.

OUTSTANDING!!!!! Here are some pics...

Hello all...I find all these post very interesting. I am a retired CTN (hence the username) currently working at Corry Station. I have been retired since 2006, and I have been working on Corry every since. I was involved (as many were) with the establishment of the CTN rating back in 2004, and worked my last 3 years as the CTN rating manager at Corry Station before retiring as a CTNCS. I now work as a contract instructor with the CTN school here at Corry Station (officially called the Joint Cyber Analysis Course or JCAC). I'll try to get on here in between classes to check up on the discussions. Feel free to send me any comments directly to my account if you don't want something posted for all to see.

Retired - Is your 1st name Matt? I know most of the CTN development team.... What was your previous rating? CTM?

Retired - is your name Fred? My son is asking...

Craig, I'm not Matt...he is up in Maryland still. I was the CTN Model Manager (now called Rating Manager). I am Fred Luke, former CTO converted to CTN. I am now one of many instructors for the CTN school here at Corry.

Hello all, I know this is a Navy for Moms site but i have been visiting this site for a while and find it very useful. I just enlisted 2 weeks ago as a CTN and will be leaving in May. I have a few friends in the Navy now and a few a work with that are former enlisted and got me very excited about the whole process. Hope to get to know everyone and hope everyone has a great day.

ge3kswagTony - I would recommend you also try www.NavyDep.com since you're a depper. Lots of good info there... Bottomline - gather as much info as you can before you leave, you'll be glad you did....

Hey Craig, lol you can call me Tony. I actually joined that site a few weeks back but I can't get in anymore. It keeps saying token error.

I bet you can get in now....

lol hahahaha you're awesome. Yes, it works now. Thank you very much!

Tony, I enjoy helping depper.... Make sure your mom signs up for N4M.... It will be great for her while your in bootcamp....

Tony - What is really fun is having your entire family on N4M and tracking you with other family members that have sailors in the same ship (barracks) as you. It's a real blast to compare notes and stepping through your entire bootcamp with others.
So get them on here, and let them have fun too....

Clockard - Didn't you have alot of fun tracking your son with other in his ship? I know I did.....

JCAC is unique in that it is considered both an "A" school and a "C" school. The navy uses JCAC as the "A" school for new accessions (Sailors first entering the navy trying to get rated as a CTN), but for other services it is considered their "C" school (advanced technical school for a particular job.) Most Sailors will get orders somewhere around week 16 to week 20. Immediately after graduation those students will transfer from Corry Station and go to their gaining command (usually leave in between and a couple of days proceed time depending on how far away from Pensacola their ultimate station is located.) Right now there are no additional "C" schools for CTN. The only other option is for those students qualified for ION. We can't discuss that job on this forum, but there are addition requirements for that position. If someone qualifies for that role, they may transfer immediately to Ft Meade, or they may remain on station here until a seat is available for ION at Ft Meade. There is an "F" school here at Pensacola called Joint Network Attack Course (JNAC), but it is usually reserved for senior enlisted and officers.

Hey everyone. I have a daughter in boot camp due to graduate Oct 8th and going to Pensacola on the 9th (Columbus Day weekend) and I have a few questions on how they are running things at Corry these days. I have read about the Phases and know she will not be able to leave base during the first phase. We would rather come see her down at Corry (much closer than GL) than go to her graduation and only be able to see her for a few hours ( Plus, she asked us to come to P'Cola instead). We would hopefully have more time to see her, bring her some of her stuff, and of course we have many friends down there. I guess my questions are will we be able to see her if only on base? I think I read somewhere that they sometimes house them over at NAS?? Will she have to do anything during that first weekend? Thanks for any help you can give me.

For Ret Navy&Mom, current rule is that everyone coming to Corry as a new accession will be placed in Phase I liberty status for 10 days (on base only.) It's a tough one, because it is a 3-day weekend, there is a slight possibility that when she first checks in on Friday, she will be assigned to holding company, and may request leave for the weekend due to family being in the area. They MAY allow it, but normal policy is no off-base liberty or leave until they go to Phase II. Today is a bad day since it is the 15th of Sep all Chiefs are out busy today and tomorrow with the new selectees. I can't get ahold of anyone other than the NMT Qdeck folks who passed on the above info to me.
FYI - when I came to Corry for the first time in was also Columbus Day weekend (1985). I arrived on Friday, bought an airline ticket and spent the weekend in NY with my family. Hope it works out for you and your daughter!

Thanks Fred!

Hello All! I've been going over this site for quite some time now and find the information on here pretty useful. I'm about to go to CTN-A school here soon and was wondering if anyone who lives down there could tell me where I could find a good apartment? Thanks for your help!!!

Yes I am cross rating again! I was an AT, now MA1 and soon to be CTN.

linxs321 - Over at NavyDep.com there is a user named xenocide that is going in as a CTN, he actually lives in Pensacola.

It's funny because he says he is tired of Pensacola and wants to get out of there. Being a CTN, you'll be in Pensacola alot if you make the Navy your career....

linxs321, also try the group "Sailors In Pensacola, FL For A School....Corry Station too!!" if you haven't already. There are some people in that group who have lived around Pensacola for some time who can probably help you.

Thanks, I will give it a look. I've been in Pensacola but that was in 2001 and didn't have a family to bring with me at that time!

You can go house hunting but on your own dime. My last 2 PCS moves, I've taken leave in transit and found/set up my house before checking into the command. A command can grant up to 10 days for house hunting.

Not an official website, but you can get lot's of info at:
http://pensacolanavalhousing.com/
There are plenty of apartments and houses to rent in Pensacola. Ensure to stop by the housing office just inside the front gate at NAS Pensacola (2 miles down the road from Corry Station). They will have the latest info on approved apartments for navy personnel. There are some low-rent apt complexes near the base that I would not consider suitable for families. Stay away. Plenty to choose from that are only 15-30 minutes from the base. Housing will have the complete listing.

clockard - Here is the offical instruction of Permissive TAD for Housing Hunting....
http://www.npc.navy.mil/ReferenceLibrary/MILPERSMAN/1000MilitaryPer...

Thanks for the info. I was looking at the countrywood at blue angel apartment complex, it looks descent...Looks like I'll try to get TDY orders for house hunting and check out the area before I start school. Should be interesting to fly trans atlantic 2 times in a 1 month period.

That's not a bad location. I live about 4 miles from there. It is only about 10-15 minute drive to Corry. If you have school age children, make sure to check the correct zoning for that area ( I think you said you had a family or implied that you do). I checked a website but it is not accurate. I think the Elementary school for that location is Blue Angel Elementary which is pretty good. Middle school is Bailey which is good too. That zip is also for Warrington Elem and Middle which aren't that great...so check first before you sign on the dotted line!

My son is only 2 so I don't have to worry about schools, just parks! Just looking for something close to base without living in bad parts. I heard outside of Corry is pretty bad and a buddy of mine that just came from Pensacola recommended fairfield village but I can only find fairfield lakes. I will contact the housing office this week to see if they can give me more info plus I should be getting my hard copy orders this week too.

linxs321 - it's probably Fairfield Villas, but I wouldn't recommend anything off of Fairfield Drive. Lot's of problems at all the apts down that way.

Thankyou clockard

My Son is going to MEPS next tueday and wants the CTN rate but his recruiter told him that he doesnt know of anyone going from BC into CTN that you have to 'transfer" into it. I don't think that's true is it? My feeling is the recruiter is uninformed,

The recruiter is wrong as of 2007 I believe, your son can go directly into CTN. My daughter did and is there right now.

CTmomof3, that recruiter is absolutely misinformed. I enlisted not too long ago and got CTN. From what I know the CTN rate for the most part is still a undermanned rate, this means as long as you qualify and it's open......you can get it. I went through 5 recruiters before I found one who even knew what a CTN was and some even thought CTA was still an active rate.

Also, October is the start of the new Navy fiscal year so more rates will have openings and I'm almost sure CTN will be one. If not, and your son really wants CTN and isn't in a rush, he can go back...hope that helps

Oh thanks for the info. I told him not to believe what the recruiters say. He said that if that rate isn't open he will have to choose something else... My advice to him was NOWAY tell them you'll wait till it opens up. He's a quiet kid so I hope he listens to his Mom and Dad on this one. Didn't know out the fiscal year thing as to rates opening. That's good to know...not to doubt you but are you sure about that?

CTmomof3 tell your son to check out www.navydep.com it has a lot of info about the rate and will help him through the process. There is a user on there xeno and myself are both going in as CTN's and Craig ( the resident CT expert ) pretty much runs the site.

Make sure you stress to him the importance of sticking to his guns and getting the rate he wants...

Thanks ge3kswagTony...Oh Craigs on both sites? I'll tell my son to go to the dep site. He needs all the info he can get. His brother is a CTR but he's very hard to get a hold of. I do stress that but ya know I'm only Mom what do I know Lol Are CTN only shore based?

From what i gather the CTN rate is about 90-95% shore duty but of course it's always also the " Needs of the Navy " so you never really know.

LtTXsmarty 09/128 Oh gosh the same thing has happened to my son They wanted him in the Nuke program but nope he's color blind so he's choosing CTN. But the recruiters claim they have never had anyone go directly into that. So no issues yet just trying to prevent them at the moment.

Woo-hoo..... I love a good debate. It's actually kind of fun....

I truly don't mind if someone in another rating leading their people down the wrong path, but you don't do to our CTN's (and now CTT's). I really want those CTN women to come here and join this group. It has everything you need here.
Friendly, fun, lots of answers..... Woo-hoo....

My son just went to the Fort last week for a TAD trip. So he stopped by town going and coming. It was really fun having him home for 36 hours. He's coming up on orders really soon....I hope he gets the Fort....

btw: Do you think I should change my avatar to this?

Lol hahahah Craig... that is totally you.

Oh no you two got the booted. Tell me where to go and I'll pass the word

Clockard - Did you get booted too? Man that is too funny if you did.....
Woo-hoo.... I need to start reading my book again:

CTmomof3 - Don't think that he will change to CTN once he accept his orders. Yes, the can do a DAR request, but it rarely happens. My nephew wanted CTN so bad. He was in DEP for 8 months as a CTT, and he is now in CTT "A" school.

He needs to decide now, if he doesn't get CTN, what other ratings will he do. Remember the economy really is bad out here, so if anything is within the ballpark, then they should take it.....

CTmomof3 - Sorry, I thought I pushed send to respond with my commen, but I don't think it went.... Probably because the computers overloaded with being banned....-ha

Anyways.... My nephew wanted CTN really bad. But all they had in the CT field at the time was CTT. They kept telling him that they will put in a DAR request each month, to change to CTN. He was in DEP for 9 months, and guess what, it never changed. He PIR 9/2 and is now at P-cola doing the CTT thing. Which, don't get me wrong, CTT is awesome too, but not as awesome at CTN. CTN is where it's at!
So, what your son needs to remember is this: The economy sucks now. He needs to decide what other ratings he would wants besides CTN. Being a CT, I am really partial to CT's. CTT, CTR are great jobs. I was a CTM, it's great. CTI you need to have that skill, and I don't. So what I would do is tell him to go in there and open up and say, "I will take ANY CT job, but I really want to be a CTN." That way they know he isn't "Job-locked". If your job-locked then they will show you the door, since sooo many people want to go into the Navy now.
Job-locked means you will only take one certain rating.

He should be getting idea now of what else he will choose. I want him to have an idea on what the various jobs do, I have temporary opened up my website for you. Just have him scroll about half way down until he see's the RATINGS (JOBS). They should all be in there. I'm only missing a few.
He doesn't need to register, this section I just opened up so he can view it without registering.... http://www.navydep.com/forums/

Let me know if you need any more info, it's not like I can hang out in the Pensacola section....-ha

This is what you'll hear next...

clockard & Craig
vs
The Pensacola group....

CTmomof3 - Man, I totally misread your post. Sorry about that. But that recruiter doesn't know what he's talking about. The CTN rating came about in 2004 and they only took people from ratings to cross-rate into it. Then, on Feb 26, 2007 they started the very first class of CTN's. These young sailors are the 1st to be recruited and start the entire path to be CTN's.
http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=28110

The recruiter must be from a real old era. He is out of date.

clockard - Come on, we would be a good tag team. I'll do the "Pile Driver" and you can do the "Figure 4 leg lock"... -ha
p.s. I bet you missed my links huh? -ha

Just to put my 2 cents in; recruiters always try to push new recruits into rates that they need to fill their quotas for. He could always talk to someone else on his first trip to MEPs for his physical or go to another recruiting station.

Thanks everyone for the info. That's ok Craig I knew you'd catch up on the question.. He took the practice ASVAB 2 weeks ago and now going to take the "real" one and do the physical stuff etc next Tues. I and his Dad also told him to...stick to your guns... don't let them tell you to just pick something etc etc. His dad gave him all kinds of advice on how recruiters work and several co-workers were listening to the conversation shaking their head in agreement... his Dad works for the joint staff at the pentagon so you can figure out who his coworkers are. I did ask my son if the rate he wants isn't available what will he do he needs to start thinking about that. He'll try CTN or CTR...
On the color blind? I knew he was colorblind since he was young but get this one..the recruiter had him take a colorblind test on GOOGLE What??? I said. ya mom told he went on google and tested me..,Well, that's a new one.
Craig im going to give him your link to look at.. I go by you can't have too much information..and he has some good resources. here you all are fantastic

You guys are too funny! I love it. I am thinking I found the right group.....just don't tell pcola they may boot me too!

Just to give you a background on "patch". Beleive it or not, the first time it was ever published was on July 13th, at 12:52..on this CTN forum.

Knowing that CTN's didn't have a logo since they were brand new, I wanted to get something out there for them. My friend actually drew that up, but it was orginally for our group at work. It orginally had "CTO" which stood for C=Contractor, T=TRW, O=Operations. I liked it so much I ask him if I have it for my website. So, I doctored the master up, and changed it to CTN and added the CT quill and lighting bolt.
I truly wanted our guys to have something. Not having a logo is not being a sailor. It's funny how it's made it's way around.... Please keep passing it along...
"and know you know the rest of the story"