Good afternoon!! I hope everyone had a wonderful weekend!
B'sNukeMom - I hope you had a wonderful vacation!! And you are probably playing catch up at work now.
I had texted both sets of my out of town kids and wished them and their spouses Happy Easter, knowing they were busy and not likely to call. My sailors had shared photos of their evening. A little later, my DIL calls and sounded so serious, she said, I am calling because X is driving, but I thought something was wrong! - My son starts talking on the speaker phone and said, "We were calling because it is Easter!!" I have to admit, I appreciate knowing they still think about me, even though they are married.
I hope many of you received calls or messages from your sailors as well!!
Good Afternoon Everyone!! I hope you are having a nice Sunday afternoon.
I recently had someone ask me for information on DTP, so I have bumped our discussion back up into the queue, DTP and reclassification questions,
I know some of you that are still on this group have had sailors go through DTP and I thought you could either post some more responses at the bottom of the discussion above, or on our group here. Thank you.
Specifically, do we have any other information on DTP? I haven't search for more information in the discussions, as this has been my go to.
Any suggestions for helping our sailors stay both mentally and physically fit during their time in DTP?
Any suggestions for helping them with their re-rating or what the process looks like?
Chipmunk, hard to believe but it has been almost 8 years since my son (now STS2) went through DTP. I'm not sure any information I have would still be any good.
WearsLargeHats - I understand. But if you can at least share anything that you recall from what he did during his time in DTP or how he handled the situation, may be helpful. Thanks!
I was thinking about my son's time during INDOC. He had a month between BC and classing up for A school. He called me one day to tell me what his new job was going to me. He said, it is better to volunteer for something that you think you might like to do, rather than wait and be voluntold to do something that you would prefer not to do!!! - I wonder if it is not like that for many of our sailors going through DTP. If they can find something that they would prefer to do, raise your hand, volunteer for that job, before they are told to do something else they would rather not do.
Hi all - been a long time since we've had a "check in" with everyone. Feel free to share an update!
I'll start:
I've been on N4M since 2012 when son joined - he's out now, as is his wife who was also a nuke - who he met while in VA. He was an MMN (Truman) and she was an ELT (Lincoln). As you know they are getting ready to have their first baby in a month and I can't wait. Hubby and I have been together 40 years, married almost 35. We also have a younger son who is a college coach (track and field/cross country). He's getting married in March, 2024. I'm one of the main admins here on the site and continue to stick around because there really aren't too many others willing to take over lol! I live in CA, born and raised and I've been fortunate to meet quite a few navy moms in person.
Chipmunk - "voluntold" is a term I learned from my son.
Haven't you heard that NAVY stands for Never Again Volunteer Yourself? I got that from my Sailor, too. I think there is a joke like that for every branch of the military, but if there is one for Space Force, I haven't heard it yet.
WearsLargeHats - True!! True!!! My son really liked to organize things and there was a closet that needed such attention. I don't know how it came about but he said he raised his hand and volunteered to do it. He much preferred that task over a few others like waxing floors and such.
It doesn't always work out for the best though. Primarily, they have to learn to be proactive. As my son is getting ready to get out, there are several things he has told me about having to often send gentle reminders to people that he needs information from, or tasks accomplished so he can move on to his next step. Sometimes they have to be the squeaky wheel, the challenge is learning just how loudly or how much to squeak.
My sailor will be finishing up his enlistment before long, and then trying to focus on his schooling. My sailor gal, his wife, reenlisted last year, so I will still be sticking around as there is still more Navy life to learn. She has a different rate, so I really should look into that group more, however, this is homeport for me!
It is hard to believe that it has been almost 6 years now. It is hard to stay connected to everyone on my friend list, but I hope that I have been an encouragement to you as much as you have to me. Be sure to send me a PM and update me on your sailor. I have stretched myself over several groups on this site, so my one-on-one time is limited but I think of you all often.
Good morning, happy Wednesday! I will do a more thorough check-in, however I’m just heading into work so I will sit down later for that. Quickly, my son joined in 2017, is an ETN and is currently on a seawolf class, fast-attack sub. He is looking forward to finally getting assigned his shore duty (vs. sea duty) toward the end of this year. I must get for now, but more soon. Have a great day!
check-in, I just realize it has been a very long time since I posted anything. I do however read most all post. This year marks 8 years in the navy. My son is getting ready to go back to sea duty after teaching at Groton. He currently is still in Groton in SOAC( sub officer advance course) I asked if he would have any trouble in the classes as these were the classes he has been teaching the last couple years. This last year he finished his master degree, finally got to go on their honeymoon ( married 10/2020) to Europe. I am excited as they will be heading back to west coast and only be 2.5 hours away. He will back on his old sub as the navigation dept head.
Good Morning KayCee & topdog1p - It is good to hear from you. It sounds like your sailors have been busy. Hopefully, both of you will have a chance to see your sailors more often.
KayCee - is yours going to still be stationed nearby or moving elsewhere? My DIL has been enjoying her shore duty.
topdog1p - Congratulations to your sailor, lots of accomplishments.
Checking in. It will be 8 years in July, with one year remaining on his contract. He is currently on shore duty at Ballston Spa and has no plans to reenlist. He recently took the test to become a Chief. He did pass, but must go through an interview process to see if he makes the final selection
He will complete an undergrad degree in December of this year. I believe his degree will be in Nuclear Technology or something on that order. He also recently got engaged and they are starting to plan their ceremony for next summer. I don’t post often but I do read all the posts. It’s so great to hear how all our sailors are doing
Checking in. My son is in his 5th year now and is on crew with a fast attack sub in Bangor, WA. He will roll off and shift to shore duty early next year with plans to reenlist for an additional two. He has interest in the reserves after that. With that said… it has been quite a ride and I’m so grateful that I’ve had this group to help me along the way!
I lurk at the fringe and check in every now and again. It’s interesting to me how we begin this journey hanging on like it’s a lifeline while they are in boot camp and then the pipeline. I feel like, as the years go by, and he get is further into his career, I was able to relax more. His girlfriend now lives with him and things seem to be going well.
Thanks to all for listening and guiding me along the way!
momc - We loved visiting Ballston Spa - we were lucky to go twice when B did prototype there. BZ to him on all his accomplishments and congratulations on his engagement!
topdog1p - BZ to your son too! It's so exciting to see what everyone is doing. Congrats on his nuptials and yay for heading back closer to you! That's the best!
The Hammer - it will be interesting to see what he gets for shore duty. It's nice to see them get in a groove and get settled in - less worry for us for sure!
KayCee - any ideas on the sea duty location?
Good friends of B's (she's out now - she was his mentor in the nuke program) and her husband (he just made chief - also nuke) just transferred from Washington to Ok - recruiting shore duty. So if there shore duty is recruiting they can really end up anywhere!
I work right around the corner from the March Air Reserve Base and there's an air show this weekend. The Thunderbirds are out practicing - it's awesome! Flying right over our office - such a beautiful sight to see! I love it!
Check-in here! My son is coming up on his 10 year mark as an EMN1. He is on a submarine right now and absolutely loves it. His sister is getting married in June (we love our son in law) and we are all very hopeful her brother will make it. I know he will do what he can, but I am also very aware the needs of the Navy come first. As a Mom, I can understand that, but don't have to like it!!!!
checking in - My son is wrapping up his contract. He was on the fence about re-enlisting, but having his first deployment happen as the world grappled with COVID helped him make his decision. I suppose 200+ days on a ship will do that to you. We are waiting to hear where he will end up as a civilian. I know that he is excited to finally be able to actually live with his wife. She was finishing school and will finish her residency program a few weeks after he is out of the Navy.
It has definitely been a ride. I appreciate the info and support I have found on these pages over the years.
Checking in: my sailor son is still in PNW on a sub that is in dry dock and he passed the Chief exam. As I understand it, he will learn if he makes chief in late summer. Before that he is planning to get married to his fiancé whom he met while in A School. She is now out of the Navy. Hoping that if he makes chief it will not mean another future deployment, but it will likely mean a repositioning. He has about 2 years left on his contract and probably will not reenlist a second time.
I too greatly appreciate all the wisdom and support over the years. It has been a wild and crazy ride! Thanks for being there!
Checking in - My son is still in the Pipeline (Is that what we call it? LOL) Anyway, he is one month into Prototype, and is planning on extending his contract for two more years in September. (This will be a contract extension without having ever been deployed! Let's hope he loves it as much as he thinks he will love it!)
I'm guessing he'll graduate late Sept or early Oct and then wants to be on a sub.
I, too, am grateful for this group. I have learned so many things from all the amazing women here, and I am thankful for those of you who take the time to give your input!
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) - he hasn't yet gotten into the craziness of Prototype yet. I guess the first two months are long days, but weekends off, so he is loving that. The crazy schedule will start next month (and prayerfully he'll adjust well).
OK. I am so glad I found y'all! I need help. I believe my son goes to Great Lakes on June 26 for BC. If I am doing my math right, that makes it Labor Day weekend for his PIR. He is enlisted as a Nuc. So, is that "A" school? or what? and where? and when? I need to book my travel now as it being a holiday weekend. However, how much time should I allow? Will I see him after PIR? Saturday? I tried calling RTC. Nobody answers. I have so far left 2 messages in 2 days and have received zero responses. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks!
newkmomma - I agree with Q’s Momma. There is no way to know for certain when PIR will take place as there may be unforeseen delays. I would wait until you receive that date. I encourage you to write many letters (I wrote one every day!) while he is in boot camp to encourage him. For us, we had PIR and then were able take our sailor home for the day (we live in southern WI) but had to drive him back before curfew. The next morning he took a bus at 4am to O’Hare airport and I met him there at 5:00am. We spend the entire day together at the airport before his flight left at 6:30pm. Expect a very tired, but happy kid. Great memories… (it’s been five years for me). My sailor is also a Nuke (EM or Electrician’s Mate)… so if you have questions about the pipeline… I’m happy to help!
newkmomma - Good Morning and welcome Aboard!! I have to leave for an appointment so I am not reading the other ladies replies, but I know they will steer you well.
I know there are a couple of extra weeks, added on now from when my son left for BC at the end of June. His PIR was actually the weekend before Labor Day, so yours could be Labor Day weekend or the next one, depending on how they actually put him into a Training Group and Division at BC.
DO NOT buy a ticket yet. They will even tell you that from RTC. And no, you will likely not get much of a response from them either, unfortunately. They have too many calls and that is partially why we are here, to help you along this journey.
Welcome to the Nuke mom page, this group focuses more on once your sailor arrives at Goose Creek for A school, then he will have Power School and then Prototype. All 3 of those are considered part of the Nuke Pipeline as you might hear it referred to. Over in the BC group, there are members there who currently have SR (seaman recruits) at BC, those of us who sent ours years ago and all in between. There are many groups on this site, each with different focuses. You can be in as many groups as you would like.
There is a discussion in the BC group that might be helpful to you. I posted it after my son's PIR. What PIR weekend may be like for those flying out of GL - Even if it is Labor Day weekend, there is no guarantee that he would have extra time at GL, and then again he might. It just all depends on the Navy and none of us knows for certain.
Welcome to Navy Life - Semper Gumby - Always flexible. If you do book tickets ahead of time, be sure that you are able to either change them or get insurance. There is currently one lady in our BC group whose son has been set back several times due to medical issues. He is pressing forward, but there is no guarantee that your son will graduate the weekend that you think he will.
Please be sure to read the ***NEW MEMBERS*** info at the top of the page. Lots of good info there. Also take a look at the Pages (20) to the right under the member profiles - be sure to hit "view all". And the discussion forum above has some good info too - be sure to read Chipmunks "Nuke A School Daily Schedule". And of course, feel free to ask any questions you may have.
newkmomma - as hard as it is you are just gonna have to hold off on things for now. The Navy does things their way and you will learn to be flexible or it will drive your crazy lol! Until your son gets to boot camp - and then gets about half way through you won't know anything about his PIR date. And even then it could change. It's hard to let go but you don't really have a choice.
I left the link to the boot camp group on your page in the welcome message. That is the best place to start to get info about what happens. belovedbyHim has a good post about the timeline of boot camp and once you get the letter (at about 4-5 weeks) you can then join his specific PIR group.
It's a lot of "hurry up and wait" and "no news is good news". We've all "been there, done that" and the best advice is just try not to worry.....
I also don't recommend you to continue calling RTC....they should only be called in case of an emergency (and even then you would actually reach out to the Red Cross for assistance). You don't want to do anything to draw attention to your son while he's in boot camp. He'll have enough going on without mom calling - I mean this in the nicest way ;-D
Come here (or to the boot camp group) for help. We'll get you answers. Hang in there!
17 days until the due date for our grandson! I can hardly contain myself! Doctor thinks he's already over 8 lbs and says if he continues growing at the rate he is they may have to schedule a c-section. Of course this worries B&C a bit but I remind them that we just want to make sure she has a safe delivery. Everything has been going so great in her pregnancy thus far and this is just sort of throwing a wrench in their plans. I know everything will work out in the end. Flights are booked for MI in June!
Thanks y'all! I appreciate all the info and the especially warm, helpful welcome. I have ONE more topic of questions, and then...I will go dormant, becoming mostly a creeper until Septemberish. So, BC for approximately 10 weeks if all goes well, then Goose Creek for A school, then Power School and then Prototype. Are all 3 parts in GC? Approximately 1 year for A school? then how long for the next two in the pipeline? Is there more Nuc schooling after that? His recruiter said he would get about 3 years of college credit toward an Engineering (Nuclear or even a Computer Science degree?). Is this correct? Where do these classes count as college credits? Will he need to take an equivalency test or will he have something from the Navy that is similar to a college transcript? Is there any English writing, Biology and such or is it 100% math and such solely to prepare him for his Navy job? Did your Nucs go on to finish a Bachelor degree immediately following? Take time away from school to work and practice what they were taught? My son makes great, informed decisions; however, I have a lot of questions and don't want to call or rely only on his recruiter to verify the answers I think I understood. Thank you ladies!
newkmomma - Hi! And welcome to the group! You have come to the right place for all the support and answers you need! (And remember - there are no dumb questions!)
My son is currently in Prototype, so I hope to answer some of your questions about the pipeline, but first I want to share my son's experience with BC. He went to the recruiter's office on his 18th birthday (December) and signed up. He was given a leave-for-bootcamp date of August 3rd. He spent the summer at a camp in Georgia and got chigger bites. His documentation said that he had to report any medical issues (including rashes). He reported that. They pushed his leave date to Sept 19th. A few days before the 19th, his recruiter told him that he couldn't go on the 19th because he needed documentation regarding the anaphylactic reaction to bug bites. (Do you know how difficult it is to prove that you have overcome an anaphylactic reaction when you NEVER HAD ONE!?) They told him if he got a medical release, he would leave in 3 days or in 7 weeks! His doctor wrote a letter stating that he never has had any anaphylactic reaction to anything, and the Navy accepted that. My son left for BC on Sept 26, 2021. (Neither 3 days nor 7 weeks later.)
At that time, BC was 8 weeks, but if you were unvaccinated, you had to quarantine for 2 weeks. The "I'm here" call script said that everyone might have to quarantine for 2 weeks, even if they brought their vaccination card. I was distraught because that's not what we were told before he left.
Thankfully, he did not have to quarantine, and he had no setbacks, so he graduated 57 days after he arrived at BC. He graduated the day before Thanksgiving, and everyone in his class was able to spend Thanksgiving with family during the day, but they had to get back for curfew. Some of his buddies shipped out on Friday, but all of the Nukes shipped out on Tuesday. We were able to stay in town until Sunday and spend those days with him. (Thankfully, the hotels in the area know the routine and they are willing to work with Navy families.) Like the other moms said, I would encourage you to wait because the leave date could change, or there could be setbacks. But if you do make reservations (hotel and/or airfare), make sure it's refundable or changeable.
newkmomma - (Apparently, there's a limit to how long a post can be and I exceeded that! Here is part two - about the Nuke pipeline.)
As for the Nuke pipeline, each school (A school, Power, and Prototype) are 6 months long. The first two are in Charleston. The second is either in Charleston or NY. My son says that they tell every A school class, "You will be the first class to do your prototype in NY," but so far, it's still happening in Charleston.
The first couple of weeks are called INDOC and they are introducing them to Nuke life. Then they "class up" and start A School. When they finish A school, there is an intimate graduation ceremony (which we really enjoyed), and then the sailors usually get 10 days leave. After that, they wait to class up for Power School. (My son's class graduated in July, but they needed to do watch duty immediately, so they didn't get their 10 days leave until mid-September. Then they classed up at the end of September.) The time between A school graduation and the start of Power school is called "T-track". They stand watch and clean, and although they are still working, it's a nice break from the rigor of school.
When they graduate Power School, it's a massive graduation ceremony (over 300 graduates) and is really special. My son got 10 days leave and then immediately started Prototype. The first few weeks of prototype is a normal M-F schedule (although the days are long), but soon they will start the crazy 12-hour shift schedule!
My son said that they put in their requests for where they want to be stationed at the beginning of Prototype, and then they will get their orders near the end of Prototype.
MomofJoseph - LOL - Yes, the system can only handle so much of our chatter at once!! - You aren't the first one to have to continue with a post. Thanks for sharing!
newkmomma - I was posting in a great hurry yesterday. Forgive me if I sounded like you could not post any questions or pop over here during your son's time at BC. We like to have chatter and we are here to help you, so you don't have to be silent. One thing you will learn about this entire process, no one sailor's or parent's experience is exactly the same. Whether it is at BC, in the Nuke pipeline, or at their duty station. We all share similar situations, but each of us has our own scenario.
As for schooling after your sailor is out, my son is only just getting ready to start that process. Maybe B'sNukeMom or some others can offer information. There is also the STA-21 option and we have a few members on here whose sailor has gone that route.
I will say this, if your son's recruiter was not a Nuke, then they are not likely to know as much about Nuke life on a ship or sub, or the options after school. They are going off of a script that may or may not pan out for your son. Right now, what your son needs to be focused on is doing his run and exercises, swimming and floating to pass his Physical Fitness tests at BC. My son had to go to DEP meetings at least once a month prior to shipping out and he talked to his recruiters, and they put him in touch with a Nuke recruiter elsewhere in the area so that he could ask more specific questions. That might be an option.
MomofJoseph - Thanks for your wonderful description of your experience with the Nuke pipeline. My son is still in T-Track (hopefully classing up to Power School in May), and I still have so much to learn about this process. Very informative!
newkmomma - Welcome to the Navy and to this wonderful group! I agree with Chipmunk - it might be helpful for your son to talk with sailors who've been through the Nuke pipeline. My son talked with several Nukes at MEPS who had been on submarines (which he wants to do), so he received some good perspective from those conversations.
B'sNukeMom - So excited for you! Hope these last couple of weeks go well and that you will have a healthy grandson very soon.
My son did prototype in Ballston Spa - not too many are now. When B went they were sending more of the single guys. Cheaper for the Navy to move 1 person to NY than a family.
And it's fairly safe to say it's close to 2 years from start of boot camp to finish of prototype (give or take).
Your son will get some college credit for being a nuke but I don't think it's 3 years worth. That's always been a little questionable. Seems I've seen/heard many different things over the years. They can use their GI Bill after to get/finish their degrees. That's what B&C did. B got his undergrad degree and C is now finishing up her Master's - both thanks you US Navy!
Chipmunk
Apr 7, 2023
Chipmunk
Thinking about all of my friends whose sailors might be deployed or out to sea!!
Apr 7, 2023
Pizanche
Joe-mom - thank you!!!
Apr 7, 2023
Chipmunk
Since I might not be on tomorrow, I wanted to wish everyone a
Happy Easter!!
Apr 8, 2023
Chipmunk
Good afternoon!! I hope everyone had a wonderful weekend!
B'sNukeMom - I hope you had a wonderful vacation!! And you are probably playing catch up at work now.
I had texted both sets of my out of town kids and wished them and their spouses Happy Easter, knowing they were busy and not likely to call. My sailors had shared photos of their evening. A little later, my DIL calls and sounded so serious, she said, I am calling because X is driving, but I thought something was wrong! - My son starts talking on the speaker phone and said, "We were calling because it is Easter!!" I have to admit, I appreciate knowing they still think about me, even though they are married.
I hope many of you received calls or messages from your sailors as well!!
Apr 10, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Back and had a wonderful time on vacation. Yes, trying to get caught back up.....I hope everyone is doing well!
Apr 12, 2023
Chipmunk
Good Afternoon Everyone!! I hope you are having a nice Sunday afternoon.
I recently had someone ask me for information on DTP, so I have bumped our discussion back up into the queue, DTP and reclassification questions,
I know some of you that are still on this group have had sailors go through DTP and I thought you could either post some more responses at the bottom of the discussion above, or on our group here. Thank you.
Specifically, do we have any other information on DTP? I haven't search for more information in the discussions, as this has been my go to.
Any suggestions for helping our sailors stay both mentally and physically fit during their time in DTP?
Any suggestions for helping them with their re-rating or what the process looks like?
Apr 16, 2023
WearsLargeHats
Chipmunk, hard to believe but it has been almost 8 years since my son (now STS2) went through DTP. I'm not sure any information I have would still be any good.
Apr 16, 2023
Chipmunk
WearsLargeHats - I understand. But if you can at least share anything that you recall from what he did during his time in DTP or how he handled the situation, may be helpful. Thanks!
Apr 17, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Apr 18, 2023
Chipmunk
I was thinking about my son's time during INDOC. He had a month between BC and classing up for A school. He called me one day to tell me what his new job was going to me. He said, it is better to volunteer for something that you think you might like to do, rather than wait and be voluntold to do something that you would prefer not to do!!! - I wonder if it is not like that for many of our sailors going through DTP. If they can find something that they would prefer to do, raise your hand, volunteer for that job, before they are told to do something else they would rather not do.
Apr 18, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Hi all - been a long time since we've had a "check in" with everyone. Feel free to share an update!
I'll start:
I've been on N4M since 2012 when son joined - he's out now, as is his wife who was also a nuke - who he met while in VA. He was an MMN (Truman) and she was an ELT (Lincoln). As you know they are getting ready to have their first baby in a month and I can't wait. Hubby and I have been together 40 years, married almost 35. We also have a younger son who is a college coach (track and field/cross country). He's getting married in March, 2024. I'm one of the main admins here on the site and continue to stick around because there really aren't too many others willing to take over lol! I live in CA, born and raised and I've been fortunate to meet quite a few navy moms in person.
Apr 18, 2023
WearsLargeHats
Chipmunk - "voluntold" is a term I learned from my son.
Haven't you heard that NAVY stands for Never Again Volunteer Yourself? I got that from my Sailor, too. I think there is a joke like that for every branch of the military, but if there is one for Space Force, I haven't heard it yet.
Apr 19, 2023
Chipmunk
WearsLargeHats - True!! True!!! My son really liked to organize things and there was a closet that needed such attention. I don't know how it came about but he said he raised his hand and volunteered to do it. He much preferred that task over a few others like waxing floors and such.
It doesn't always work out for the best though. Primarily, they have to learn to be proactive. As my son is getting ready to get out, there are several things he has told me about having to often send gentle reminders to people that he needs information from, or tasks accomplished so he can move on to his next step. Sometimes they have to be the squeaky wheel, the challenge is learning just how loudly or how much to squeak.
Apr 19, 2023
Chipmunk
Good Morning B'sNuke Mom - Here is my check in!!
My sailor will be finishing up his enlistment before long, and then trying to focus on his schooling. My sailor gal, his wife, reenlisted last year, so I will still be sticking around as there is still more Navy life to learn. She has a different rate, so I really should look into that group more, however, this is homeport for me!
It is hard to believe that it has been almost 6 years now. It is hard to stay connected to everyone on my friend list, but I hope that I have been an encouragement to you as much as you have to me. Be sure to send me a PM and update me on your sailor. I have stretched myself over several groups on this site, so my one-on-one time is limited but I think of you all often.
Apr 19, 2023
KayCee
Good morning, happy Wednesday! I will do a more thorough check-in, however I’m just heading into work so I will sit down later for that. Quickly, my son joined in 2017, is an ETN and is currently on a seawolf class, fast-attack sub. He is looking forward to finally getting assigned his shore duty (vs. sea duty) toward the end of this year. I must get for now, but more soon. Have a great day!
Apr 19, 2023
topdog1p
check-in, I just realize it has been a very long time since I posted anything. I do however read most all post. This year marks 8 years in the navy. My son is getting ready to go back to sea duty after teaching at Groton. He currently is still in Groton in SOAC( sub officer advance course) I asked if he would have any trouble in the classes as these were the classes he has been teaching the last couple years. This last year he finished his master degree, finally got to go on their honeymoon ( married 10/2020) to Europe. I am excited as they will be heading back to west coast and only be 2.5 hours away. He will back on his old sub as the navigation dept head.
Apr 19, 2023
Chipmunk
Good Morning KayCee & topdog1p - It is good to hear from you. It sounds like your sailors have been busy. Hopefully, both of you will have a chance to see your sailors more often.
KayCee - is yours going to still be stationed nearby or moving elsewhere? My DIL has been enjoying her shore duty.
topdog1p - Congratulations to your sailor, lots of accomplishments.
Apr 20, 2023
momc
Checking in. It will be 8 years in July, with one year remaining on his contract. He is currently on shore duty at Ballston Spa and has no plans to reenlist. He recently took the test to become a Chief. He did pass, but must go through an interview process to see if he makes the final selection
He will complete an undergrad degree in December of this year. I believe his degree will be in Nuclear Technology or something on that order. He also recently got engaged and they are starting to plan their ceremony for next summer.
I don’t post often but I do read all the posts. It’s so great to hear how all our sailors are doing
Apr 20, 2023
The Hammer
Checking in. My son is in his 5th year now and is on crew with a fast attack sub in Bangor, WA. He will roll off and shift to shore duty early next year with plans to reenlist for an additional two. He has interest in the reserves after that. With that said… it has been quite a ride and I’m so grateful that I’ve had this group to help me along the way!
I lurk at the fringe and check in every now and again. It’s interesting to me how we begin this journey hanging on like it’s a lifeline while they are in boot camp and then the pipeline. I feel like, as the years go by, and he get is further into his career, I was able to relax more. His girlfriend now lives with him and things seem to be going well.
Thanks to all for listening and guiding me along the way!
Apr 21, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
momc - We loved visiting Ballston Spa - we were lucky to go twice when B did prototype there. BZ to him on all his accomplishments and congratulations on his engagement!
topdog1p - BZ to your son too! It's so exciting to see what everyone is doing. Congrats on his nuptials and yay for heading back closer to you! That's the best!
The Hammer - it will be interesting to see what he gets for shore duty. It's nice to see them get in a groove and get settled in - less worry for us for sure!
KayCee - any ideas on the sea duty location?
Good friends of B's (she's out now - she was his mentor in the nuke program) and her husband (he just made chief - also nuke) just transferred from Washington to Ok - recruiting shore duty. So if there shore duty is recruiting they can really end up anywhere!
Apr 21, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
I work right around the corner from the March Air Reserve Base and there's an air show this weekend. The Thunderbirds are out practicing - it's awesome! Flying right over our office - such a beautiful sight to see! I love it!
Apr 21, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Apr 21, 2023
submomIII
Check-in here! My son is coming up on his 10 year mark as an EMN1. He is on a submarine right now and absolutely loves it. His sister is getting married in June (we love our son in law) and we are all very hopeful her brother will make it. I know he will do what he can, but I am also very aware the needs of the Navy come first. As a Mom, I can understand that, but don't have to like it!!!!
Apr 21, 2023
3B'smom
checking in - My son is wrapping up his contract. He was on the fence about re-enlisting, but having his first deployment happen as the world grappled with COVID helped him make his decision. I suppose 200+ days on a ship will do that to you. We are waiting to hear where he will end up as a civilian. I know that he is excited to finally be able to actually live with his wife. She was finishing school and will finish her residency program a few weeks after he is out of the Navy.
It has definitely been a ride. I appreciate the info and support I have found on these pages over the years.
Apr 24, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Apr 24, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
submomIII - fingers crossed he can be at the wedding!
3B'smom - I can understand him not wanting to re-enlist.Very exciting news that he will be able to finally live with his wife.
Apr 24, 2023
Tulip
I too greatly appreciate all the wisdom and support over the years. It has been a wild and crazy ride! Thanks for being there!
Apr 24, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Apr 25, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Tulip - thanks for the update! How exciting, a wedding! And BZ on passing the chief exam.
Apr 25, 2023
MomofJoseph
Checking in - My son is still in the Pipeline (Is that what we call it? LOL) Anyway, he is one month into Prototype, and is planning on extending his contract for two more years in September. (This will be a contract extension without having ever been deployed! Let's hope he loves it as much as he thinks he will love it!)
I'm guessing he'll graduate late Sept or early Oct and then wants to be on a sub.
I, too, am grateful for this group. I have learned so many things from all the amazing women here, and I am thankful for those of you who take the time to give your input!
Apr 25, 2023
Chipmunk
Happy Tuesday - We are getting some much needed gentle rain!! A blessing.
I have enjoyed catching up on everyone and their sailors. Keep posting!!
Apr 25, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
MomofJoseph - hopefully he's adjusting well enough to the crazy schedule of prototype!
Apr 25, 2023
MomofJoseph
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) - he hasn't yet gotten into the craziness of Prototype yet. I guess the first two months are long days, but weekends off, so he is loving that. The crazy schedule will start next month (and prayerfully he'll adjust well).
Apr 25, 2023
newkmomma
OK. I am so glad I found y'all! I need help. I believe my son goes to Great Lakes on June 26 for BC. If I am doing my math right, that makes it Labor Day weekend for his PIR. He is enlisted as a Nuc. So, is that "A" school? or what? and where? and when? I need to book my travel now as it being a holiday weekend. However, how much time should I allow? Will I see him after PIR? Saturday? I tried calling RTC. Nobody answers. I have so far left 2 messages in 2 days and have received zero responses. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Apr 26, 2023
The Hammer
newkmomma - I agree with Q’s Momma. There is no way to know for certain when PIR will take place as there may be unforeseen delays. I would wait until you receive that date. I encourage you to write many letters (I wrote one every day!) while he is in boot camp to encourage him. For us, we had PIR and then were able take our sailor home for the day (we live in southern WI) but had to drive him back before curfew. The next morning he took a bus at 4am to O’Hare airport and I met him there at 5:00am. We spend the entire day together at the airport before his flight left at 6:30pm. Expect a very tired, but happy kid. Great memories… (it’s been five years for me). My sailor is also a Nuke (EM or Electrician’s Mate)… so if you have questions about the pipeline… I’m happy to help!
Apr 26, 2023
Chipmunk
newkmomma - Good Morning and welcome Aboard!! I have to leave for an appointment so I am not reading the other ladies replies, but I know they will steer you well.
First of all, welcome! Second, I encourage you to come join our Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones) - Navy For Moms (ning.com) group on this site. B'sNukemom also likely left the link in her welcome to you on your profile page.
I know there are a couple of extra weeks, added on now from when my son left for BC at the end of June. His PIR was actually the weekend before Labor Day, so yours could be Labor Day weekend or the next one, depending on how they actually put him into a Training Group and Division at BC.
DO NOT buy a ticket yet. They will even tell you that from RTC. And no, you will likely not get much of a response from them either, unfortunately. They have too many calls and that is partially why we are here, to help you along this journey.
Welcome to the Nuke mom page, this group focuses more on once your sailor arrives at Goose Creek for A school, then he will have Power School and then Prototype. All 3 of those are considered part of the Nuke Pipeline as you might hear it referred to. Over in the BC group, there are members there who currently have SR (seaman recruits) at BC, those of us who sent ours years ago and all in between. There are many groups on this site, each with different focuses. You can be in as many groups as you would like.
There is a discussion in the BC group that might be helpful to you. I posted it after my son's PIR. What PIR weekend may be like for those flying out of GL - Even if it is Labor Day weekend, there is no guarantee that he would have extra time at GL, and then again he might. It just all depends on the Navy and none of us knows for certain.
Welcome to Navy Life - Semper Gumby - Always flexible. If you do book tickets ahead of time, be sure that you are able to either change them or get insurance. There is currently one lady in our BC group whose son has been set back several times due to medical issues. He is pressing forward, but there is no guarantee that your son will graduate the weekend that you think he will.
Apr 26, 2023
Chipmunk
The Hammer & Q'sMomma - Thanks for replying so quickly!!
Apr 26, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Apr 26, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Welcome to our newest member ~ newkmomma!
Please be sure to read the ***NEW MEMBERS*** info at the top of the page. Lots of good info there. Also take a look at the Pages (20) to the right under the member profiles - be sure to hit "view all". And the discussion forum above has some good info too - be sure to read Chipmunks "Nuke A School Daily Schedule". And of course, feel free to ask any questions you may have.
Apr 26, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
newkmomma - as hard as it is you are just gonna have to hold off on things for now. The Navy does things their way and you will learn to be flexible or it will drive your crazy lol! Until your son gets to boot camp - and then gets about half way through you won't know anything about his PIR date. And even then it could change. It's hard to let go but you don't really have a choice.
I left the link to the boot camp group on your page in the welcome message. That is the best place to start to get info about what happens. belovedbyHim has a good post about the timeline of boot camp and once you get the letter (at about 4-5 weeks) you can then join his specific PIR group.
It's a lot of "hurry up and wait" and "no news is good news". We've all "been there, done that" and the best advice is just try not to worry.....
I also don't recommend you to continue calling RTC....they should only be called in case of an emergency (and even then you would actually reach out to the Red Cross for assistance). You don't want to do anything to draw attention to your son while he's in boot camp. He'll have enough going on without mom calling - I mean this in the nicest way ;-D
Come here (or to the boot camp group) for help. We'll get you answers. Hang in there!
Apr 26, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
17 days until the due date for our grandson! I can hardly contain myself! Doctor thinks he's already over 8 lbs and says if he continues growing at the rate he is they may have to schedule a c-section. Of course this worries B&C a bit but I remind them that we just want to make sure she has a safe delivery. Everything has been going so great in her pregnancy thus far and this is just sort of throwing a wrench in their plans. I know everything will work out in the end. Flights are booked for MI in June!
Prayers are appreciated.....
Apr 26, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Look how cute this is! A fellow Navy mom crocheted this for baby Oliver!!! I love it ;-D Go Pack Go!
Apr 26, 2023
newkmomma
Thanks y'all! I appreciate all the info and the especially warm, helpful welcome. I have ONE more topic of questions, and then...I will go dormant, becoming mostly a creeper until Septemberish. So, BC for approximately 10 weeks if all goes well, then Goose Creek for A school, then Power School and then Prototype. Are all 3 parts in GC? Approximately 1 year for A school? then how long for the next two in the pipeline? Is there more Nuc schooling after that? His recruiter said he would get about 3 years of college credit toward an Engineering (Nuclear or even a Computer Science degree?). Is this correct? Where do these classes count as college credits? Will he need to take an equivalency test or will he have something from the Navy that is similar to a college transcript? Is there any English writing, Biology and such or is it 100% math and such solely to prepare him for his Navy job? Did your Nucs go on to finish a Bachelor degree immediately following? Take time away from school to work and practice what they were taught? My son makes great, informed decisions; however, I have a lot of questions and don't want to call or rely only on his recruiter to verify the answers I think I understood. Thank you ladies!
Apr 27, 2023
MomofJoseph
newkmomma - Hi! And welcome to the group! You have come to the right place for all the support and answers you need! (And remember - there are no dumb questions!)
My son is currently in Prototype, so I hope to answer some of your questions about the pipeline, but first I want to share my son's experience with BC. He went to the recruiter's office on his 18th birthday (December) and signed up. He was given a leave-for-bootcamp date of August 3rd. He spent the summer at a camp in Georgia and got chigger bites. His documentation said that he had to report any medical issues (including rashes). He reported that. They pushed his leave date to Sept 19th. A few days before the 19th, his recruiter told him that he couldn't go on the 19th because he needed documentation regarding the anaphylactic reaction to bug bites. (Do you know how difficult it is to prove that you have overcome an anaphylactic reaction when you NEVER HAD ONE!?) They told him if he got a medical release, he would leave in 3 days or in 7 weeks! His doctor wrote a letter stating that he never has had any anaphylactic reaction to anything, and the Navy accepted that. My son left for BC on Sept 26, 2021. (Neither 3 days nor 7 weeks later.)
At that time, BC was 8 weeks, but if you were unvaccinated, you had to quarantine for 2 weeks. The "I'm here" call script said that everyone might have to quarantine for 2 weeks, even if they brought their vaccination card. I was distraught because that's not what we were told before he left.
Thankfully, he did not have to quarantine, and he had no setbacks, so he graduated 57 days after he arrived at BC. He graduated the day before Thanksgiving, and everyone in his class was able to spend Thanksgiving with family during the day, but they had to get back for curfew. Some of his buddies shipped out on Friday, but all of the Nukes shipped out on Tuesday. We were able to stay in town until Sunday and spend those days with him. (Thankfully, the hotels in the area know the routine and they are willing to work with Navy families.) Like the other moms said, I would encourage you to wait because the leave date could change, or there could be setbacks. But if you do make reservations (hotel and/or airfare), make sure it's refundable or changeable.
Apr 27, 2023
MomofJoseph
newkmomma - (Apparently, there's a limit to how long a post can be and I exceeded that! Here is part two - about the Nuke pipeline.)
As for the Nuke pipeline, each school (A school, Power, and Prototype) are 6 months long. The first two are in Charleston. The second is either in Charleston or NY. My son says that they tell every A school class, "You will be the first class to do your prototype in NY," but so far, it's still happening in Charleston.
The first couple of weeks are called INDOC and they are introducing them to Nuke life. Then they "class up" and start A School. When they finish A school, there is an intimate graduation ceremony (which we really enjoyed), and then the sailors usually get 10 days leave. After that, they wait to class up for Power School. (My son's class graduated in July, but they needed to do watch duty immediately, so they didn't get their 10 days leave until mid-September. Then they classed up at the end of September.) The time between A school graduation and the start of Power school is called "T-track". They stand watch and clean, and although they are still working, it's a nice break from the rigor of school.
When they graduate Power School, it's a massive graduation ceremony (over 300 graduates) and is really special. My son got 10 days leave and then immediately started Prototype. The first few weeks of prototype is a normal M-F schedule (although the days are long), but soon they will start the crazy 12-hour shift schedule!
My son said that they put in their requests for where they want to be stationed at the beginning of Prototype, and then they will get their orders near the end of Prototype.
Hope this helps.
Apr 27, 2023
Chipmunk
MomofJoseph - LOL - Yes, the system can only handle so much of our chatter at once!! - You aren't the first one to have to continue with a post. Thanks for sharing!
newkmomma - I was posting in a great hurry yesterday. Forgive me if I sounded like you could not post any questions or pop over here during your son's time at BC. We like to have chatter and we are here to help you, so you don't have to be silent. One thing you will learn about this entire process, no one sailor's or parent's experience is exactly the same. Whether it is at BC, in the Nuke pipeline, or at their duty station. We all share similar situations, but each of us has our own scenario.
As for schooling after your sailor is out, my son is only just getting ready to start that process. Maybe B'sNukeMom or some others can offer information. There is also the STA-21 option and we have a few members on here whose sailor has gone that route.
I will say this, if your son's recruiter was not a Nuke, then they are not likely to know as much about Nuke life on a ship or sub, or the options after school. They are going off of a script that may or may not pan out for your son. Right now, what your son needs to be focused on is doing his run and exercises, swimming and floating to pass his Physical Fitness tests at BC. My son had to go to DEP meetings at least once a month prior to shipping out and he talked to his recruiters, and they put him in touch with a Nuke recruiter elsewhere in the area so that he could ask more specific questions. That might be an option.
Apr 27, 2023
joe-mom
MomofJoseph - Thanks for your wonderful description of your experience with the Nuke pipeline. My son is still in T-Track (hopefully classing up to Power School in May), and I still have so much to learn about this process. Very informative!
newkmomma - Welcome to the Navy and to this wonderful group! I agree with Chipmunk - it might be helpful for your son to talk with sailors who've been through the Nuke pipeline. My son talked with several Nukes at MEPS who had been on submarines (which he wants to do), so he received some good perspective from those conversations.
B'sNukeMom - So excited for you! Hope these last couple of weeks go well and that you will have a healthy grandson very soon.
Apr 27, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
Apr 27, 2023
B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)
My son did prototype in Ballston Spa - not too many are now. When B went they were sending more of the single guys. Cheaper for the Navy to move 1 person to NY than a family.
And it's fairly safe to say it's close to 2 years from start of boot camp to finish of prototype (give or take).
Your son will get some college credit for being a nuke but I don't think it's 3 years worth. That's always been a little questionable. Seems I've seen/heard many different things over the years. They can use their GI Bill after to get/finish their degrees. That's what B&C did. B got his undergrad degree and C is now finishing up her Master's - both thanks you US Navy!
Apr 27, 2023