Welcome! In my opinion, it is not only possible, but natural to have such mixed emotions. My youngest, age 20, is a DEPPER. However, even with my 28 yr old, no matter how proud I am of the adult they've become, I will always have moments when I morn the baby/kid/teen they once were.
My advice is to spend as much time with your son as he can stand (haha), and make plans to be busy, busy, busy. Revisit an old hobby, see old and new (NavyMom) friends, volunteer, and write to your son every day he is in BC.
Remember, your connection to your son is not severed, it is just on a "longer rope." You will develop a new, comfortable normal...and you will probably be surprised at how some things remain the same. Example; My kids had always flopped across my bed to tell me what was new, what was wrong, how their day was, and so on. While home for a visit my married 28 yr old will still walk in my room, plop down, stretch out, and have a chat. I don't expect anything different from "the baby."
Hi Lizcdf! LOL - I don't think the tears ever stop. :) But they do change. My son left at the end of September. He had been in DEP since April - it was a pretty fast process for us - once he put the wheels in motion everything was moving forward. While he was in DEP I'd cry - I was sad, scared, worried that I had done something to push him to leave. Then since he's left I still cry - not every day - and for different reasons - sometimes because I miss him, sometimes because I'm worried about him, and sometimes because I'm so happy because I have a letter. I know I'll be crying in November when I see him come through that big door for PIR because I'll be so proud of him. And then he'll be off to A school and I'll cry all over again. So I don't think the tears ever stop. I'm in the same boat as you. It has been my son and me since he's been 6. I can't imagine him not being home - even now that he is gone I still can't wrap my head around the fact that he is gone - that actually makes me cry a lot. But I'm so proud of him. This is the first thing he's done that he has seen through from beginning to end without my pushing him or checking up on him. The first real letter I got from him said "I think boot camp is kinda fun. You just have to do what you are told." He's a weird kid. I can't imagine him being a man - he's just my little boy. It's just a new dynamic to adjust to - hard but I sleep easy at night knowing where he is and that he isn't out drinking and driving or making bad choices - even though I don't hear from him that often. Just enjoy the time you have with him. YOu have a lot - so don't waste it by thinking about when he is gone. Good luck and stay on the boards here. This site was so helpful while we were going through DEP - I knew what to expect when he left and had my questions answered by people who had gone through it before plus it's a great support system and I've met so many new friends.
Thanks to all who have sent me support. Your words definately have helped. I am new to all this. Eventhough I come from a miltary family and have been through this with my brother and cousins and such but it's completely different when it's your "baby". Last night he crawled in bed with me and I cried (of course LOL). Today we went to the recruiters office to turn in more paperwork-OMG so much paperwork and documentation. It took every ounce of strength I had to control my emotions :) And of course my son took jabs at me about it and joked making it harder. We found out they are moving up his ship out date. It was set for sometime in October 2012 now they are saying it will be anywhere from two weeks after graduation (May 14) through the end of summer (August)..we will find out for sure in January. We were planning our annual summer vaction for July, but now we have decided to move it to spring break...just in case you know. I told him we could go anywhere he wanted....he said Disneyland LOL. As I am sitting here typing, I am watching him totally zonked out in his recliner....I can't decide if I am crying or laughing LOL. Well anyway thanks to all. I love this website. I am learning so much. And it is putting my mind (and heart at ease). So much info to get through. I laughed so much reading the posts about the "kid box"...especially the one that said their son's box looked just like his bedroom.....I can relate thank you, I thought my son was the only one that had a room like that LOL. I already told (asked LOL) my principal that I would be going to his grad cermonies NO MATTER WHAT. She laughed and said she just went through that this summer so she completely understood. It's amazing how much support is out there for us "mommies and daddies" watching our sweet little "babies" grow up and learn to fly on their own. UGH tears again LOL. We just have to hope we gave them everything they need to "fly" on their own. I am so proud of him. I have noticed my prayers have changed in the last two weeks....since meeting all of you....I pray for all of your children as well. I guess I am about to enter a new club...one I am VERY PROUD to be apart of. Everyone one on this site is so welcoming, caring and loving. It brings a whole new set of tears knowing that all of you have welcomed my son and I into your hearts-thank you. God please protect ALL of our children (and other family members) serving, and watch over their families while they are gone. Amen. Good night all....Loves to all.
I am so proud of Joey. We got his ASVAB test results back yesterday...he got an overall 72. His recruiter is very happy with that score and said that it will open many doors for him. I am so proud. Joey I love you.
Hi Lizdcf the recruiter is right that getting a 72 on the ASVAB opens up a lot of Navy jobs. What they call the "line scores" from the individual sections of the test affects what ratings they get, but generally getting a 72 means you did good all around and opens up most ratings.
Does Joey know what he wants to do in the Navy? It is a good idea to pick several different areas because when a job opening comes in they get snagged fast. For that reason I would make a list of perhaps 6 ratings and in what order you rate them then look out for job openings in those ratings.
Thank you William. Yeah...my son is weird.....he could do anything, but he wants to be a CB/construction mechanic-just like his uncle- and eventually get his BA in mechanical engineering.
@Denise...I talked to my son and he definetly has his back up plans B, C and D LOL. Where is your son stationed...my brother is a CB stationed out of Port (pardon the spelling) Hummene (?) in Ventura, California. He has been there like 8-10 years I think. He has been in the Navy 18 years.
@Denise...my brother is currently on Spain. I have heard about the CB's downgrading from several people in the last few days. I am really glad my son has back up plans.
Hi Lizdcf. If Joey only wants to be in the Navy for one enlistment and not re-enlist, and if there are Seabees jobs available I would say go for it.
On the other hand if he is flexible and might make a career of the Navy or at least to re-enlist later, I would suggest he looks into a "critical NEC" which is a job the Navy really needs to fill the slots. An NEC is a specialty within a rating; it is a job code (4 digit numbeR)
The Navy has a list here go to this page then click on the link that says
or maybe you can just click that link here, anyway it is a list of all the "Critical NEC's" that means jobs Navy needs to fill. It is an Excel spreadsheet and for each NEC code it also lists the Navy rating. Right now there is no critical need for any Seabees.
You might talk to recruiter and say "I would like to learn about jobs in critical NEC's that I would qualify for" and from those magic words recruiter can help you find a job that Navy really needs because there is a shortage of them.
We found out yesterday that my son has two recruiter "watching out" for him. One of them told me that they aren't going to "allow-lol" him to choose certain jobs. They are only going to "put on the table" the engineering or high level (I think she said secure) communication jobs. She met with me privately to discuss options they want to suggest to him based on things they have observed from him. You see for the last few months-eventhough he hasn't officially enlisted yet-he goes to the recruiters two hours a day, twice a week. She said based on his ASVAB scores and his leadership skills and his show of comittment, rain or shine, they won't let him settle for "middle of the road". She also mentioned a program "seaman to admiral". It was so funny yesterday because when he walked in he say me there and she called him over to her desk and he said "oh no what did I do now-I'm not even in yet and I already messed up" It took everything I had not to laugh LOL. She talked to him for awhile while I politely slipped away. She also reccommended he audition for Division 900 at BC. When we were alone she mentioned that she has already talked to the CO (and someone else-I can't remember who she said) for our (region?) and will be introducing him to Joey on the day he takes the oath. She is trying to encourage him to accept one of the leadership roles that will be offered in BC. This is all so funny to me because although my so is highly
intelligent he is one of those that falls through the cracks" because he is so shy. I mean he is very respectable and all but...his recruiter said it best....he is one of those people you think isn't paying attention, not listening ect but has observed everything going on, taken it all in and surprises the crap out of you when he reveals everything he knows about what is going on. She asked him why he doesn't engage in conversations on the days he is there and he said "because those aren't my conversations and it would be disrespectful for me to interject myself into someone else's conversation, but ewhat you said the other day about.....was so funny I knew exactly what you meant when you said..... you should have seen the look on her face OMG it was priceless. She then talked to him about the major accomplishedments he has already had/made and of course he was so humble and said "oh yeah that...no biggie it was what had to be done" Then he politely asked if he could stay for the DEP meeting-eventhough he isn't required to yet (til Jan). A little while later she pulled me aside and said (very stongly I might add) "that's it we are pulling him out of his shell and HE WILL fingd the self confidence to do what we all see he can do" So apparently he is a pet project or something LOL LOL LOL. It's so funny because when she was telling him about jobs she would like to reccommend for him he was shocked and said "really...you would let me do that?" Can I smack him now? LOL. He doesn't see it.
But on a more serious note.....he is definately going to be career Navy. He knows that much. LOL We only have one medical hurdle left to jump through. I just wish when they are telling about all the paperwork you need that they would tell you all of it at once instead of little pieces at a time UGH.
Well anyway I have talked everyone's ear. Thanks for listening I am so glad I have a forum to process through all the stuff rolling around in my head. Thanks to all who have given us great advice. I am going to tell him to talk to her about NEC. Have a great day all....woke up this moring to 15 degrees with wind chill YUK YUK YUK. Loves to all.
Ok I have "tried to sift through the NEC stuff.....can someone break it down a little more for me. WHat is it exactly, what will he be doing, who are they ect?
Per the Nuke job. Understand this is only my opinion, but I'm sure all the Nukes will agree....
Nuke is a real hard job. While most of us "normal" sailors (I was a CTM) were on liberty, the Nukes were still on the ship doing their qualification and other stuff that Nukes do. In most of the ports, I was receiving maximum liberty, and could go on tours, while the Nuke stayed behind. Nukes were always the last ones to leave the ship, and the 1st ones that had to return because of their job.
For me, I joined the Navy to see the world (and to chase women ~ha), and I did. I had the best time ever. For the Nukes, these guys never saw much pleasure in their liberty time because they were putting in 14 hour days. They always seemed so tired to even go on liberty after work. However, these guys have great pride in their job!
If you like extremely hard work, little appreciation, long hours, and little liberty, then people go Nuke. But if you want to see the world, go on tours while in-port in different countries, then go any rating except Nuke.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure most of the Nuke would agree.
Basically what this means is that what I speculated earlier is confirmed. NO recruits will be sent to Great Lakes between Dec. 15, 2011 and Jan. 3, 2012.
Any recruits who are scheduled to leave during those weeks will report to their recruiters to go to boot camp Dec. 13 -15, about half to two-thirds will be held for 1-2 weeks longer than usual before training begins.
There is no way of telling for sure which recruits will be held, and which will start on a regular schedule. Those arriving the 13th are the least likely to be held, and those who arrive on the 15th are most likely to be held the longest, but there is no guarantee.
Oddly enough, only one of the original Village People was/is homosexual, but they sure knew how to market themselves to make a tidy profit.
Did you know the Navy actually lent them a Navy ship to make their "In the Navy" music video, with a reciprocal agreement that would allow the Navy to use the song as a recruiting tool? Soon after that the group became popular in the homosexual community, and the Navy dropped it's plans like a hot potato, LOL.
FYI, my family is from the San Francisco area, going back to the 1700s. So my knowledge of San Francisco related trivia is impressive but generally useless.
The ship that was used in that video is the USS Reasoner FF-1063. During U.S. war games, the CO of the Reasoner (the enemy) repainted his number to FF-1065 (USS Tony Stein) this allowed him to slip behind enemy lines and caused alot of damage to the friendly U.S. forces.
Here is a picture of both ship numbers sitting at the pier in San Diego. It really confused alot of people because it was the same type of ship, with the same hull number. That CO was really smart, and loved winning!
Hey Robs mom-have your son look at the E-1 thing again. not sure what kind of school hee has but if he has a fair amount of college credits he might want to look at it a bit more. My daughter has enough credits to get an AA degree and is going in as an E-3. This was on Wikipedia. Hope it helps
Missile Technicians Operate, test, maintain, troubleshoot, and repair ballistic missile weapons systems. Aligns, calibrates troubleshoots and repairs all areas of the missile system, launcher system, and various test systems; troubleshoots and repairs digital, electrical, and electronic systems; troubleshoots and repairs cooling and heating systems as well as control systems using electromechanical devices, hydraulics, and pneumatics; uses standard electronic test equipment such as meters, oscilloscopes, logic probes, and logic analyzers; uses DOS-based computers for word processing as well as other administrative record keeping tasks.[1]
Missile Technicians Operate, test, maintain, troubleshoot, and repair ballistic missile weapons systems. Aligns, calibrates troubleshoots and repairs all areas of the missile system, launcher system, and various test systems; troubleshoots and repairs digital, electrical, and electronic systems; troubleshoots and repairs cooling and heating systems as well as control systems using electromechanical devices, hydraulics, and pneumatics; uses standard electronic test equipment such as meters, oscilloscopes, logic probes, and logic analyzers; uses DOS-based computers for word processing as well as other administrative record keeping tasks.[1]
Sorry Robsmom my computer skills stink. But I hope the other posts helped. Also you might want to look into the E-1 thing a little closer. If he has a fair amount of college credits then he could go in as an E-2 or an E-3. Just depends on how may he has. My duahgter has enought credits for an AA degree and is going in as an E-3.
Robs - Get ready to tell the neighboors that a bunch of guys with badges will be asking about your son. Let them know that he's not in trouble, but he requires an extremely high level of security access. His access requires a Single Scope Background Investigation. To find out what type of guy he is, they will talk to neighbors, school teachers, friends, and enemies. They will talk to everyone.
His school with be in Kings Bay Georgia. It's an extremely nice back, right on the Flordia/Georgia border. I was stationed there for 3 years.
Lastly, he will go in as a E1, everyone does. However, he's in the Advance Electronics Field (AEF). So he will get E2 about 1 month after PIR'ing boot camp, and he should be back paid for E2 from the day he left MEPS for Boot camp.
Rob's Mom, the holiday standdown does not affect January, February and March recruits at all. There should be no delays, except for the normal ones. Some schools have new sailors in holding for a week, others may hold for months. It's entirely dependent on whether there are enough new sailors to start a new class, and in some cases, enough instructors to start a new class. Sometimes they have to wait for one class to finish before another can start.
Those who have earned E-2 or E-3, because of their school, college credits, NJROTC credits, etc, are given a promotion when they complete boot camp. They are not paid for E-3, nor are they allowed to use the title or wear the insignia until after they complete Battlestations.
That is not entirely accurate Arwen. My son entered the Navy in paygrade E-3 under a nuclear field and was paid at the E-3 pay rate starting from his very first day in boot camp. It is true that he was not allowed to wear his chevrons until after Battlestations 21 because they are all considered recruits prior to that event. However the E-3 paygrade was in effect from day one. The other categories like you mentioned may be considered promotions that happen when they graduate boot camp, but this is not so for those on NF contracts. There was not a promotion. He was promoted to E-4 however when he graduated A school.
I agree, with both Arwen and William. For all others, these two are saying exactly the same thing, just in a different way.
All recruits in boot camp are E1 technically. They don't want someone to pull rank over the other. So they are all considered slimy recruits. Once they get done with boot camp, then their pay for whatever paygrade they came in as clicks in. They are back paid from the date they enter boot camp. Again, it's just so someone doesn't pull rank on the others.
Actually, you can go in up to the rank (rate) of E6. I had a guy that I was helping on my website that meant a special program the Navy had, and actually enlisted as a E5. I was trying to get him E6 but he was missing one form.
Flangl18- You should join the San Antonio Moms group we just started. After meeting Admiral Valentin, a group of us thought we should probably have our own group. My son will be leaving for rtc in April. He is going in NF.
Due to my daughters mishap she came home to heal after surgery and had not finished bootcamp. She had 3 stripes already on her uniform. I guess there are exceptions. She returned in the same uniform.
Lizdcf
Thank u.
Oct 24, 2011
ReneeBC
Lizdcf,
Welcome! In my opinion, it is not only possible, but natural to have such mixed emotions. My youngest, age 20, is a DEPPER. However, even with my 28 yr old, no matter how proud I am of the adult they've become, I will always have moments when I morn the baby/kid/teen they once were.
My advice is to spend as much time with your son as he can stand (haha), and make plans to be busy, busy, busy. Revisit an old hobby, see old and new (NavyMom) friends, volunteer, and write to your son every day he is in BC.
Remember, your connection to your son is not severed, it is just on a "longer rope." You will develop a new, comfortable normal...and you will probably be surprised at how some things remain the same. Example; My kids had always flopped across my bed to tell me what was new, what was wrong, how their day was, and so on. While home for a visit my married 28 yr old will still walk in my room, plop down, stretch out, and have a chat. I don't expect anything different from "the baby."
Oct 24, 2011
Jajajo
Oct 24, 2011
ReneeBC
Jajajo,
In the search bar above, type in either DEP-Leaving for Boot Camp in October or you can join Boot Camp Moms. Good luck to your son!!
Oct 24, 2011
Jajajo
Oct 24, 2011
Jenn (Proud AO Mom)
Oct 24, 2011
Lizdcf
Thanks to all who have sent me support. Your words definately have helped. I am new to all this. Eventhough I come from a miltary family and have been through this with my brother and cousins and such but it's completely different when it's your "baby". Last night he crawled in bed with me and I cried (of course LOL). Today we went to the recruiters office to turn in more paperwork-OMG so much paperwork and documentation. It took every ounce of strength I had to control my emotions :) And of course my son took jabs at me about it and joked making it harder. We found out they are moving up his ship out date. It was set for sometime in October 2012 now they are saying it will be anywhere from two weeks after graduation (May 14) through the end of summer (August)..we will find out for sure in January. We were planning our annual summer vaction for July, but now we have decided to move it to spring break...just in case you know. I told him we could go anywhere he wanted....he said Disneyland LOL. As I am sitting here typing, I am watching him totally zonked out in his recliner....I can't decide if I am crying or laughing LOL. Well anyway thanks to all. I love this website. I am learning so much. And it is putting my mind (and heart at ease). So much info to get through. I laughed so much reading the posts about the "kid box"...especially the one that said their son's box looked just like his bedroom.....I can relate thank you, I thought my son was the only one that had a room like that LOL. I already told (asked LOL) my principal that I would be going to his grad cermonies NO MATTER WHAT. She laughed and said she just went through that this summer so she completely understood. It's amazing how much support is out there for us "mommies and daddies" watching our sweet little "babies" grow up and learn to fly on their own. UGH tears again LOL. We just have to hope we gave them everything they need to "fly" on their own. I am so proud of him. I have noticed my prayers have changed in the last two weeks....since meeting all of you....I pray for all of your children as well. I guess I am about to enter a new club...one I am VERY PROUD to be apart of. Everyone one on this site is so welcoming, caring and loving. It brings a whole new set of tears knowing that all of you have welcomed my son and I into your hearts-thank you. God please protect ALL of our children (and other family members) serving, and watch over their families while they are gone. Amen. Good night all....Loves to all.
Oct 25, 2011
Lvemyabej
Oct 28, 2011
Lizdcf
Nov 1, 2011
William in Nashua
Hi Lizdcf the recruiter is right that getting a 72 on the ASVAB opens up a lot of Navy jobs. What they call the "line scores" from the individual sections of the test affects what ratings they get, but generally getting a 72 means you did good all around and opens up most ratings.
Does Joey know what he wants to do in the Navy? It is a good idea to pick several different areas because when a job opening comes in they get snagged fast. For that reason I would make a list of perhaps 6 ratings and in what order you rate them then look out for job openings in those ratings.
Nov 1, 2011
Lizdcf
Nov 1, 2011
Lizdcf
Nov 1, 2011
Lizdcf
Nov 2, 2011
Lizdcf
Nov 2, 2011
William in Nashua
Hi Lizdcf. If Joey only wants to be in the Navy for one enlistment and not re-enlist, and if there are Seabees jobs available I would say go for it.
On the other hand if he is flexible and might make a career of the Navy or at least to re-enlist later, I would suggest he looks into a "critical NEC" which is a job the Navy really needs to fill the slots. An NEC is a specialty within a rating; it is a job code (4 digit numbeR)
The Navy has a list here go to this page then click on the link that says
Critical NEC List in Fleet RIDE
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/career/careercounseling/pages...
or maybe you can just click that link here, anyway it is a list of all the "Critical NEC's" that means jobs Navy needs to fill. It is an Excel spreadsheet and for each NEC code it also lists the Navy rating. Right now there is no critical need for any Seabees.
You might talk to recruiter and say "I would like to learn about jobs in critical NEC's that I would qualify for" and from those magic words recruiter can help you find a job that Navy really needs because there is a shortage of them.
Nov 2, 2011
Craig
And, for more info about the Critical NEC, I wrote a whole story about it here:
http://www.navyformoms.com/group/ctratemoms/page/how-to-read-a-crit...
Nov 2, 2011
Lizdcf
intelligent he is one of those that falls through the cracks" because he is so shy. I mean he is very respectable and all but...his recruiter said it best....he is one of those people you think isn't paying attention, not listening ect but has observed everything going on, taken it all in and surprises the crap out of you when he reveals everything he knows about what is going on. She asked him why he doesn't engage in conversations on the days he is there and he said "because those aren't my conversations and it would be disrespectful for me to interject myself into someone else's conversation, but ewhat you said the other day about.....was so funny I knew exactly what you meant when you said..... you should have seen the look on her face OMG it was priceless. She then talked to him about the major accomplishedments he has already had/made and of course he was so humble and said "oh yeah that...no biggie it was what had to be done" Then he politely asked if he could stay for the DEP meeting-eventhough he isn't required to yet (til Jan). A little while later she pulled me aside and said (very stongly I might add) "that's it we are pulling him out of his shell and HE WILL fingd the self confidence to do what we all see he can do" So apparently he is a pet project or something LOL LOL LOL. It's so funny because when she was telling him about jobs she would like to reccommend for him he was shocked and said "really...you would let me do that?" Can I smack him now? LOL. He doesn't see it.
But on a more serious note.....he is definately going to be career Navy. He knows that much. LOL We only have one medical hurdle left to jump through. I just wish when they are telling about all the paperwork you need that they would tell you all of it at once instead of little pieces at a time UGH.
Well anyway I have talked everyone's ear. Thanks for listening I am so glad I have a forum to process through all the stuff rolling around in my head. Thanks to all who have given us great advice. I am going to tell him to talk to her about NEC. Have a great day all....woke up this moring to 15 degrees with wind chill YUK YUK YUK. Loves to all.
Nov 3, 2011
Lizdcf
Ok I have "tried to sift through the NEC stuff.....can someone break it down a little more for me. WHat is it exactly, what will he be doing, who are they ect?
Nov 3, 2011
Lizdcf
Nov 3, 2011
Craig
Lizdcf - You must of not read my link. Item #3 explains what an NEC stuff is.
Per the shyness, that will go away once he's in the Navy. It gets fixed pretty quickly. The Navy needs people to voice concerns.
Per the NUK is basically Nuke. It's in the Nuclear Power field. For all the ratings and what they do, go here...
http://www.navydep.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=36
Per the Nuke job. Understand this is only my opinion, but I'm sure all the Nukes will agree....
Nuke is a real hard job. While most of us "normal" sailors (I was a CTM) were on liberty, the Nukes were still on the ship doing their qualification and other stuff that Nukes do. In most of the ports, I was receiving maximum liberty, and could go on tours, while the Nuke stayed behind. Nukes were always the last ones to leave the ship, and the 1st ones that had to return because of their job.
For me, I joined the Navy to see the world (and to chase women ~ha), and I did. I had the best time ever. For the Nukes, these guys never saw much pleasure in their liberty time because they were putting in 14 hour days. They always seemed so tired to even go on liberty after work. However, these guys have great pride in their job!
If you like extremely hard work, little appreciation, long hours, and little liberty, then people go Nuke. But if you want to see the world, go on tours while in-port in different countries, then go any rating except Nuke.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I'm sure most of the Nuke would agree.
Nov 3, 2011
Arwen
Navy Recruiting Command has released the official order for the holiday standdown. See the official document here.
Basically what this means is that what I speculated earlier is confirmed. NO recruits will be sent to Great Lakes between Dec. 15, 2011 and Jan. 3, 2012.
Any recruits who are scheduled to leave during those weeks will report to their recruiters to go to boot camp Dec. 13 -15, about half to two-thirds will be held for 1-2 weeks longer than usual before training begins.
There is no way of telling for sure which recruits will be held, and which will start on a regular schedule. Those arriving the 13th are the least likely to be held, and those who arrive on the 15th are most likely to be held the longest, but there is no guarantee.
Nov 3, 2011
William in Nashua
Nov 4, 2011
Craig
Now that is funny!!!
But it's really hard to chase them when you look like this.... ~ha
Nov 4, 2011
Arwen
Nov 4, 2011
Craig
Which uniform? It's kind of like Skittles....
fyi, not sure they would be attracted to you... You're a women,,, Just saying....
Nov 4, 2011
Arwen
Oddly enough, only one of the original Village People was/is homosexual, but they sure knew how to market themselves to make a tidy profit.
Did you know the Navy actually lent them a Navy ship to make their "In the Navy" music video, with a reciprocal agreement that would allow the Navy to use the song as a recruiting tool? Soon after that the group became popular in the homosexual community, and the Navy dropped it's plans like a hot potato, LOL.
Nov 4, 2011
Arwen
Nov 4, 2011
Craig
Nov 4, 2011
Craig
The ship that was used in that video is the USS Reasoner FF-1063. During U.S. war games, the CO of the Reasoner (the enemy) repainted his number to FF-1065 (USS Tony Stein) this allowed him to slip behind enemy lines and caused alot of damage to the friendly U.S. forces.
Here is a picture of both ship numbers sitting at the pier in San Diego. It really confused alot of people because it was the same type of ship, with the same hull number. That CO was really smart, and loved winning!
Nov 4, 2011
Proudmom
Hey Robs mom-have your son look at the E-1 thing again. not sure what kind of school hee has but if he has a fair amount of college credits he might want to look at it a bit more. My daughter has enough credits to get an AA degree and is going in as an E-3. This was on Wikipedia. Hope it helps
Missile Technician (US Navy)
Rating insignia
Missile Technician (abbreviated as MT) is a United States Navy occupational rating.
Missile Technicians Operate, test, maintain, troubleshoot, and repair ballistic missile weapons systems. Aligns, calibrates troubleshoots and repairs all areas of the missile system, launcher system, and various test systems; troubleshoots and repairs digital, electrical, and electronic systems; troubleshoots and repairs cooling and heating systems as well as control systems using electromechanical devices, hydraulics, and pneumatics; uses standard electronic test equipment such as meters, oscilloscopes, logic probes, and logic analyzers; uses DOS-based computers for word processing as well as other administrative record keeping tasks.[1]
Nov 6, 2011
Proudmom
Rating insignia
Missile Technician (abbreviated as MT) is a United States Navy occupational rating.
Missile Technicians Operate, test, maintain, troubleshoot, and repair ballistic missile weapons systems. Aligns, calibrates troubleshoots and repairs all areas of the missile system, launcher system, and various test systems; troubleshoots and repairs digital, electrical, and electronic systems; troubleshoots and repairs cooling and heating systems as well as control systems using electromechanical devices, hydraulics, and pneumatics; uses standard electronic test equipment such as meters, oscilloscopes, logic probes, and logic analyzers; uses DOS-based computers for word processing as well as other administrative record keeping tasks.[1]
Nov 6, 2011
Proudmom
Nov 6, 2011
Craig
Robs - Get ready to tell the neighboors that a bunch of guys with badges will be asking about your son. Let them know that he's not in trouble, but he requires an extremely high level of security access. His access requires a Single Scope Background Investigation. To find out what type of guy he is, they will talk to neighbors, school teachers, friends, and enemies. They will talk to everyone.
Here is a thing I wrote for the Cyptology section. He will have the same access. http://www.navyformoms.com/group/ctratemoms/forum/topics/security-c...
For more MT stuff go here...
http://www.navydep.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=118
His school with be in Kings Bay Georgia. It's an extremely nice back, right on the Flordia/Georgia border. I was stationed there for 3 years.
Lastly, he will go in as a E1, everyone does. However, he's in the Advance Electronics Field (AEF). So he will get E2 about 1 month after PIR'ing boot camp, and he should be back paid for E2 from the day he left MEPS for Boot camp.
Nov 6, 2011
Arwen
Nov 7, 2011
William in Nashua
Nov 7, 2011
Craig
"Uses DOS-based computers for word processing. LOL"
You lost me?
Nov 7, 2011
William in Nashua
Nov 7, 2011
Arwen
Nov 7, 2011
Jenn (Proud AO Mom)
Nov 7, 2011
Craig
Dang it, I missed that.... Now that is funny about the DOS!
I would had said I had a blonde moment, but I don't have any hair. In fact, my drivers license has "Caucasian" written in that hair color block...
Nov 7, 2011
Proudmom
Craig maybe you can clear up my confusion about everyone goes in as an E-1. My daughters contact has her as an E-3.
Nov 10, 2011
tks4
My daughter went in as an E-3.
Nov 10, 2011
Arwen
All recruits begin boot camp as an E-1. Period.
Those who have earned E-2 or E-3, because of their school, college credits, NJROTC credits, etc, are given a promotion when they complete boot camp. They are not paid for E-3, nor are they allowed to use the title or wear the insignia until after they complete Battlestations.
Nov 10, 2011
William in Nashua
That is not entirely accurate Arwen. My son entered the Navy in paygrade E-3 under a nuclear field and was paid at the E-3 pay rate starting from his very first day in boot camp. It is true that he was not allowed to wear his chevrons until after Battlestations 21 because they are all considered recruits prior to that event. However the E-3 paygrade was in effect from day one. The other categories like you mentioned may be considered promotions that happen when they graduate boot camp, but this is not so for those on NF contracts. There was not a promotion. He was promoted to E-4 however when he graduated A school.
Nov 10, 2011
Craig
I agree, with both Arwen and William. For all others, these two are saying exactly the same thing, just in a different way.
All recruits in boot camp are E1 technically. They don't want someone to pull rank over the other. So they are all considered slimy recruits. Once they get done with boot camp, then their pay for whatever paygrade they came in as clicks in. They are back paid from the date they enter boot camp. Again, it's just so someone doesn't pull rank on the others.
Actually, you can go in up to the rank (rate) of E6. I had a guy that I was helping on my website that meant a special program the Navy had, and actually enlisted as a E5. I was trying to get him E6 but he was missing one form.
Nov 11, 2011
Queenjailyle
Nov 11, 2011
tks4
Due to my daughters mishap she came home to heal after surgery and had not finished bootcamp. She had 3 stripes already on her uniform. I guess there are exceptions. She returned in the same uniform.
Nov 11, 2011
ReneeBC
flangl18,
I'm sure your son is happy to begin his adventure, though I feel for you and the butterflies/panic you are experiencing. Thinking of you!
Nov 16, 2011
Craig
flangl - What rating is he going? He might not even have to do the book.
Nov 16, 2011
Craig
Tell your future sailor that these recruits are leaving in February
(from NavyDEP.com)
February 2012
02/01 - a.heg (MM)
02/01 - FutureSailor (AECF)
02/06 - Apple-Saucer (AC)
02/06 - Cbell88 (NF)
02/07 - VSJenkins (AZ)
02/07 - Fathom (AD)
02/14 - Rego (IT)
02/14 - MForrest85 (AV)
02/14 - HM.Colyar (HM)
Nov 17, 2011