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**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed. Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.
**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.
**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:
In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).
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**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED. Vaccinations still required.
**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.
RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021
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AE/CF Program
Navy Enlisted Rating (Job) Descriptions and Qualification Factors
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Fire Controlman (FC)
General Info:
The Navy's Advanced Electronics/Computer Field offers extensive training in all aspects of electronics including computer systems, radars, communications systems and weapons fire control systems such as the Navy's advanced missile system, Aegis. The standards for selection for enlistment in the Navy's Advanced Electronics / Computer Field are high. Personnel interested in applying for Advanced Electronics / Computer Field should be seriously interested in pursuing the challenge this highly technical field offers. They must be mature, ready to take on significant responsibility and willing to apply themselves.
Enlistees enter as E-1s (seaman recruits). Advancement to paygrade E-2 (seaman apprentice) will be made after successful completion of recruit training.
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Advancement to E-3 will be made after completion of all advancement-in-rate requirements (including minimum time and course work). Advancement to paygrade E-4 (petty officer third class) will be made after successful completion of initial school training and after all advancement-in-rate requirements (including minimum time and course work) are completed. Advancement to E-3 and E-4 is contingent upon maintaining eligibility in the Advanced Electronics / Computer Field program. Eligible personnel may be paid bonuses at the time of re-enlistment. All bonuses are in addition to Navy salary and allowances for food and housing.
What They Do:
Only two Navy job specialties, called "ratings," are included in the Advanced Electronics / Computer Field: Electronics Technician (ET) and Fire Controlman (FC). The rating in which an Advanced Electronics / Computer Field candidate is trained is determined in the initial phase of the Advanced Electronics Technical Core Course in Great Lakes, Ill. However, eligibility requirements are the same for both ratings in the Advanced Electronics / Computer Field. FCs operate, maintain and repair the electronic, computer and control mechanisms used in weapons systems. The ET and FC (AEF) ratings comprise the basis of the ship's Combat Systems department aboard ships and are responsible for maintaining the ship's readiness for combat operations.
Detailed List of Required Duties
ASVAB Score:
AR+MK+EI+GS=223
Other Requirements:Must have normal color perception. Security Clearance, (SECRET) Requirement. 72 month obligation. Must be U.S. citizen.
Notes: Visual acuity must be correctable to 20/20. When specified, uncorrected visual acuity must not be greater than that indicated (i.e. 20/100), and must be correctable to 20/20. Must have normal color vision.
Technical Training Information:
Great Lakes, IL -- 89 calendar days
Great Lakes, IL -- 75 calendar days
Working Environment:
Jobs performed by FCs are performed throughout the Navy's fleet of surface ships including aircraft carriers and Aegis cruisers, and at repair activities ashore. For some great additional FC rating information, see this unofficial FC Information Website by FC1(SW) Nimocks.
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Mary,
Thank you so much for this information. Just got from Wi a few days ago. Cool but we had a nice time. Talked to my son. He still loves school. Is still enthusiatic..Have a great week. Barbara -
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Hey Barbara, what stage of school is your son in at this point? I understand they enjoy the classes but they can be intense. I know LynnDear's son is in the AE/CF program as well and she has said they study 14 hours a day!
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Mary,
I think he is still in A school. He graduated 2/29/08 and started A School a week later. He has orders until 9/26/08 and then I don't know what happens. He goes to school during the day and in the evening. he goes on Saturdays and Sundays sometimes too. The weekends are optional..He truly likes it. He told me that they told him that the school is = to a BS degree if that offers any clarity..Take care..Barbara -
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That is exciting Barbara - it is great that he is still loving the school as it is not an easy program. We will be anxious to hear what his Sept. orders mean, one FC mom emailed me recently that her son finished A school in GL and then got temporary orders to a ship for four months upon return he went to C school. He has just completed C school and has orders for one of the Destoyer ships homeported in the States.
They used to send FCs directly to C school but our son called and said he had been hearing them may do some time on a ship first as an apprentice and it sounds like that did happen with this other Sailor. -
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It will be interesting to see how things progress..I am a surprised how well he adapted to the Navy..Time will reveal all..I travel all week usually related to my work so I don't get on as often as I would like but I want you all to know how much I appreciate reading your comments. I will keep you posted on his progress..Take care all..Barbara
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Hi guys, I am at work but just decided to peek on NFM. Great information. Wade is in the AE/CF program. I thought that he was an FC, but he told me he will be in the ET program. I was relieved, not because I know what they do, but I can remember ET, Like In PHone Home. I see more written about the FC's. He said are expected to study and do well, but apparently had time to play. His ship at A school has a mascot, and another ship tried to steal it. So boys will be boys. I asked if he wanted me to send his computer, and he said no. It would distract him and he plans on building on. He is impressed with the education, that you have to keep up, but it moves logically from one topic to the next. His PIR was 3/14, and he had many night classes. He is still in ATT, but finally has day classes. Recently changed ships to a group that has more freedom in phase 3.
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woo-hoo, phase 3 I bet he is excited! Even if he doesn't do anything more than normal, just know you can is fun! I will do some homework on the ETs, being married to an old FC I have more inside information there (hehehehe). I do believe that the ATT program that he is currently in is the same for both FCs and ETs. It's when they get to their C schools that things become very specific to the systems that they will be working on. When is he due to finish A school? And I love...boys can still be boys!!!
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Hey Barbara, good to hear from you and happy to hear that your son is enjoying the training - that gives us newer moms hope that they are heading in the right direction!
We are heading to Mexico in the am for vacation so I will be off line all week as well - wishing everyone a good week for both yourself and your Sailors! -
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Hey Mary..Hope you are having fun in Mexico. I went there with my daughter a few years back and had lots of fun and then,,,Mexico stayed with me for awhile... Whew..never been back there although my daughter and son in law have been back there a few times. They have a condo time share in Cancun..As I said, my work takes me out of town frequently and I don't get to this site as frequently as I would like. When I do get here, I learn more and, more..Good news though..My grandson is going to talk to the Navy recruiter this week..Take care ...Barbara
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Hi All! My son just started A school and he is going in for the FC program. I have been reading different things on here any now I am a little worried! My son was informed that after A school he would be able to come home for 2 weeks (that's what the recruiters told him) AND I remember that the recruiter told me that Dan may "might be either at Great Lakes, Il or VA in A school" but what it sounds like is that C school is in Virginia! Can anyone tell me anything that they know or "heard"? I would appreciate any type of information anyone may give me...thanks so much! Peggy
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Well...we live by rumors some days Peg!
I'm an FC mom and my husband was an FC for 10 years so I know just enough to be dangerous as the old saying goes!
Actually alot of it will come down to what system, he is going to be working on. A school is in GL but C school can be in GL, VA or San Diego. When you say that he just started
A school, when did he PIR? There is some confusion about A school as what we have seen is following PIR they are in a class called indoc for about a week, then they go to SCC which is basic seamanship for about two weeks and then they go to ATT which is 10-12 weeks and it is the basic electronics program which leads them to A school. So they are there for a while before the actual A school even begins.
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Hi everyone,
I am Millye, mom to Claire. She is currently in her SCC classes and is working on getting her Phase 2 status. She did her PIR on 5/16 and hopes to soon be in her ATT classes. She says she will move again before they start. Is this true? She is supposed to be going to ET school later on after her ATT. We have really enjoyed getting to talk to her more than previously allowed...and she has enjoyed more freedoms too. Does anyone know if they will get a long weekend for the July 4th weekend at ATT? We are thinking about going back up to see her then and would love to have more time with her if possible. I'm reading all the posts here and trying to absorb the info. Thanks for sharing with me.
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