Ship 04/DIV 818

[al0251]

Hi if anyfamily member of ship 4/div 818 i don't see anyone and will like to know if the get any letter

[ochaos]

If you make this a group then it will show the latest first, but because it is a discussion within a group the newest is at the end.  That is the difference.  If you want to know how to do this let me know.

[wellen(ship04/DIV818 PIR 9/1)]

Yes, thank you, I will make this into a group...if the group agrees? Please forward directions if possible or refer to site for directions. Appreciate your experience and willingness to share your time.  Thank you.

[ochaos]

Guidelines for security

http://www.slideshare.net/mcponpao/opsec-snapshot

http://www.slideshare.net/USNavySocialMedia/recommended-facebook-pr...

 

It is always better (especially post BC) to make your personal page
private so that only your accepted N4M friends can see your page.
(Angie's note: as an onsite mentor, I interact with MANY new
Moms/Members all the time. Accepting friend requests constantly so that
I can answer a question here and there is impractical for me. However,
I have chosen to make my page viewable only to N4Ms members-not just
anyone looking in from the internet, and suggest that at the very least
you do the same! I also have chosen to moderate all comments on my page
wall.)

FYI: The default sets up your account so you don't even have to be a
member here to see your page. So here are the steps to follow...

1. Click on Settings (where your inbox is)
2. Click on Privacy.
3. Go through the categories and make sure that they are marked "Just my
friends" I also have mine marked "Wait for my approval" on comments
left on my page. This way, I can moderate in case someone writes something personal I
don't want seen/shared/advertised, or that really shouldn't be read by others due to it's Spec Ops/OPSEC nature.

Hope this helps get you all off to a secure start! Remember to make friend
requests of Group members you come to know and trust. Also, please
always use your PM (Private Message) options when sharing specific info
about your Sailor or the details of their training.

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Hi all. Just wanted to help you get off on the right foot here. There are things that loved ones with 800 Division Spec Opps Recruits (Pre Buds/SEALS, SWCC. EOD, SAR-Rescue Swimmers etc) must be extra mindful and aware of from the get go...

FYI - posted by our former Navy For Mom's Admin Elle a few months ago:

"After speaking with NRC and members of the SEAL community, we are requesting that NO photos of any of your loved ones that are current or future SEALs are posted on this site - period. This includes profile photos. Per our existing site guidelines - please be sure to make no mention of sailor last names or contact information.

Thank you for your compliance!"

FYI: All 800 Divisions are made up solely of Spec Opps Recruits. They will have more PT (Physical Training) than the other Divisions. They develop teamwork like the others, only the Recruits from other Divisions are often scattered and sent to many different "A" schools and such after PIR for further training. Spec Opps Recruits headed eventually towards SEALS training in Coronado CA, will stay together and move as a team over to Pre Buds in GL first for further intense physical training. The Div # from BC is dropped, and they will be assigned to a new three digit Class #. The other Spec Opps Sailors will also move on to their next schools after PIR, in Florida and elsewhere.

I have made a separate OPSEC discussion. Please familiarize yourself with all aspects. We must do everything in our power to protect all of our Sailors, ESPECIALLY those in Spec Opps! Be deliberately mindful, always, think before you post. If in doubt, use that little "x' button to delete and/or edit, or p.m. a more "seasoned" Mom and ask if if would be o.k. to share what you want to post. Check with your Sailor too and see what their preferences are, or what they have been instructed to do, or not. Less said the better. Also, pictures speak a thousand words, but they also sometimes give away too much information about your loved one! Its not an easy path your Recruit has chosen. They need all the help, support and protection you can give! Best wishes to all of your amazing Recruits HOOYAH!

 

[ochaos]

As far as phone calls...watch for the "847" area code. Caller ID is usually "payphone" unless they are calling for info then it most likely will be "US Government"

Now, calls are earned and given as rewards and can be shortened or taken away as punishment.

Phone call frequency and length are determined by the RDC...some rcts get to call home almost every week. Some don't get but the standard "I'm here", "I'm still alive" and "I'm a Sailor"...some don't get these.

If you aren't getting calls and the rest of your division is try not to panic...very often rcts are standing watch, taking or making up tests, have other duties to fulfill when calls are being done. Believe you me they would rather be taking to you too but they belong to the Navy now and are working on their schedule.

Just remember..."No news is good news" If anything happens that may delay their PIR, you will be notified ASAP.

Remember also that payphones eat up minutes so if they don't have a lot of minutes left on their calling card you may want to send them another one...but they also can buy one

Don't ever call the number back that your SR calls from if you miss the call.  Some of the phones WILL ring, and may be answered by an RDC; and if an RDC finds out that an SR got a callback, they get in trouble.  So if you miss the call, you just have to wait for the next one.  :-(

Calls seem to be by division, but sometimes if an SR does something really spectacular, they could be allowed a call as a reward, so occasionally individual calls could be allowed.  But they are usually by divisions.

As far as the first call...they are NOT guaranteed to call. Most get 3 calls: the "I'm here" call, the "I'm still alive" call (3 weeks) and the "I'm a Sailor" call (after Battlestations)...some only get the last one, some get all, some get more....depends on the division, RDC and the rct.
Watch for the 847 area code and the id is usually payphone...or it is withheld or restricted.
Sometimes they get a quick info call the first week or two...the id is US Government then.
They all need calling cards...it eats up 30 minutes to just make a call from a payphone....so they need a bunch of minutes. They can buy calling cards at the NEX. If you send them one ...make sure it is activated first (saves time)
When you get your first call DO YOUR BEST NOT TO CRY…your rct will be emotional and most likely will be tearful and if they’re not, they will be if you are and then you’ll waste valuable talking time crying.
Let them talk…they don’t get to talk much at boot camp, have questions and a pen and paper by the phone to jot down what they say. When they call and you hear their sweet voice…everything you wanted to ask will go out of your mind.
If they are upset..just reassure them, let them know that it will get better, it is only a few weeks and after boot camp it is MUCH better. Tell them you love them, yes you do miss them but are looking SO forward to seeing them march through those doors at PIR.
Then, hang up and come on here and cry and shout and be happy that you heard from your rct !!!
In the Navy, "no news is good news." They are allowed to contact you almost immediately if something goes wrong, and if they cannot, the Navy does. It was just over five weeks from the time my son left home and his first call, four weeks is typical.

 

[TexasSailorMom]

Hi ochaos-There is a group for this div

http://www.navyformoms.com/group/ship04div818pirsept1st2011

[wellen(ship04/DIV818 PIR 9/1)]

Too bad spec OPS are male only...I was thinking about going for it!

[mary42(ship 04/DIV 818)]

fine with me!

[jodybrock]

I think most special ops may be male only, but I know there can be female rescue swimmers... at least according the official us navy rescue swimmer facebook page. So there have to be occassional women going into the 800 divisions. 

 

[TexasSailorMom]

Actually females are allowed to apply to anything except SEALs. But the 800 div's are designated as all male divisions so any females going for spec ops are in an integrated div for bootcamp.

[jodybrock]

Thank you TexasSailorMom! That clears it up nicely! (And helps in the search for pictures on "randon picture day" on the RTC facebook page.)

[Linda (ship04/Div. 818)]

My question is since we need to leave so early from the hotel, are we allowed to bring a snack in, my husband is diabetic.

 

[ochaos]

I would think you could put something in your purse especially under the circumstances.