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Nothing Wrong with Undesignated Sailor!
First off ladies my heart goes out to you for supporting your love one's. It's not the end of the world to be classified undes. I should know I was way back in the 70's ha ha . I had the best times of my life in the Navy. My buddies were jealous as hell, I got orders for the West Indies paradise is what it was. Anyways I have a daughter who will be joining the Navy soon. And this old salt will recommend the undesighnted way of life to her. Its good ole fashion on the job trainning. Gives them plenty of time to know what they really want. I'am sure I'll be on here again.
By David B.
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Permalink Reply by PaulaKylesMom (JapanNavyMom) on
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Hi, my son is in week 4 of BC right now. He also is Seaman PACT. from the beginning i had a bad feeling about this and now since he has been in BC, 2 things have been said to him that are making me even more uncomfortable. First, he was disqualified for spec ops because of the Seaman PACT, he passed physical fitness in BC though. Second came in his most recent letter....After his appointment with career counslor he was told by one classifier that Seaman Pact could not choose a rate that required security clearance, another classifier told him that that is not true. He is confused and not getting any answers, just wondering what anyone can tell me about this..... thanks in advance!
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Permalink Reply by Misty from MN on
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Read some of the other UNDIES stories on other sites... Mitch too has had a great experience and is glad he went UNDIES. Stay strong and set your mind to a great experience as YOU are the only one that can make it a GREAT experience..
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Permalink Reply by Navymomx2 on
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I have to agree with alot of the other posts. Undesignated is not the "end of the world", But we were all in the "same boat" so to speak. My youngest son is stationed in Japan. He has been there since July 2011. I also posted on this site after he arrived. He went in as undes. His first pick at MEPS got changed (by MEPS) which was AM. I think thats the letters for it. Anyway it was changed and I can't remember whatit was changed to but he was set to go and within 1 month he had an accident and broke his little finger. His recruiter reported it to meps ( as he should) and within a week they had sent him a nice letter saying he was medically discharged. His recruiter fought to get them to temp. put him on hold till his hand was healed and they did. He went in as undes. He was stationed in Japan straight out of bootcamp as undes. The first 6 months was pretty hard. But I think it was not just that he was undes. but that he was barely 19, in another country, learning his way around the ship, making decisions on his own (without MOM) :) EVERYTHING was up to him to take care of, not to mention working his butt off (in his own words) :) GOOD NEWS within 8 months he got to take the test. He made OS3. But during that 8 months he was talking to people, advisors, and getting in his head what he wanted to strike for. So that is a very important advantage that undes. have over everyone else. I mean how can you truly say you want to be AO, OS, or any other rate, without seeing firsthand their job and surrondings etc. My son says now 18 months later that undes. wasnt all that bad.
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Permalink Reply by dannysmom on
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my son set to graduate thanksgiving, undesig sailor, he really wants to get into aviation, i would like to know exactly what he will be doing as undesignated, so that when people ask i can say something more than everybodies helper. and do they normally get an out of country job for the first? when will he know where his first job will be?
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Dannys Mom,
I'm not sure I am speaking for everybody else when it comes to undesignated cause each ship may be different but my son was undesig. and worked mainly on the deck, cleaning, painting, basically alot of maintenance on deck. This is, I know a shorter condenced list. I dont thing that an out of the country job is always the case. The reason I say this my older son is in the Navy also ( for going on 6 years). He is stationed in Norfolk and he says they have undes. on his ship, he is on a carrier. As far as knowing where his job will be, after bootcamp my son spent an additional 6 weeks in GL for school, at about the 5th week ( if I am remembering correctly) he found out his first duty station was Japan. He got to come home for about 12-14 days then, off to Japan!!
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Permalink Reply by MAG on
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This seems to be the attitude that my son is taking. His PIR is May 24th, and says he goes across the street to school after that. He was under the impression that it would be for 4 weeks, but that sounds like it could or couldn't be the case. He went in as an E3 and says he could take a test (?) for E4 in September, but that might be too soon, says March might make more sense. Since they aren't shipping out anywhere, what are the rules for any time with family after PIR?
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Permalink Reply by kadikaboom626 on
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Hi gibsonma! I don't know about family time but I do have a question. Did your son have a chance to pick a rating on 3-2 day? I'm not super happy with the info from the recruiter. He says that my son is technically not undesignated that he is instead part of the engineering family as a fireman and then can pick a rating during boot camp. Just curious as I have not seen anyone discuss actually using 3-2 day. Thanks.
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He didn't at that time. Said there were no classifications. Heard from him 6-2(?) that he was assigned a ship. He is a S-PAC . He told me only the S-pacs and A-pacs had specific locations to report to after extra training in GL. He's going to Virginia Beach after a ten day leave.
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They are either S-PACT, A-PACT or E-PACT...all have additional training after bootcamp. The S and E stay in Great Lakes for their training the A goes to FL for their training.
Sorry to tell you yes they are undesignated and do not get to pick a rating during bootcamp. Nor do they get to pick a rating while in their short training after bootcamp. They have to wait to be on their ship for 12 months to try and get a rating.
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So he is an E-3, and they told him that her could test in September, but thought it would be too soon, so was figuring March. Are we talking about the same thing? He figures he'll be scraping paint!
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Hi MAG
Does your son seem happy with his decision to be undesignated after boot camp?
I'm concerned regarding 3-2 day, if there were no ratings availabile, it feels like another exaggeration from the recruiter, he's convinced my son something will be offered.
I'm feeling pretty unhappy with this recruiters recommendations, I understood these boys are adults but hate to see them make choices on untruths. Does anyone have a positive note about being undesignated?
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Permalink Reply by Up&Down on
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Wow....no one has commented on this discussion since May! Well I have a question for you moms whose son or daughter has signed undesignated:
Please define for me the job description of an undesignated sailor. (A day and a life of an undesignated seaman)
My son just signed undesignated.
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