Put in SEPARATION

[rjgrappin3089]

My husband called saying that he was put into separation's during his boot camp. He said during his short phone call that he was coming home and it would take 10-20 days to process all the paperwork. He said he will be meeting with a legal person in case he wants to fight his case but that he knows some guys who have been in there over 6 months fighting their cases and that he doesn't want to go through all of that so he isn't going to right it. My question is, can he choose to continue through boot camp and get put back a couple weeks into a different division, or once they are separated are they for sure coming home? I haven't been able to talk to him about much detail so I'm trying to figure out what's going on.

 

Please no rude replies. I'm just trying to get some information on what this all means. Thanks :)

[boiler7879]

rjrappin3089,

My son was separated about 6-7 months ago....he tried to appeal his separation to no avail.  He along with all of the recruits are told that they can try to re-enlist again in six months, given the right separation classification.  My son lost his appeal with the help of our local congressman.   We were told by a retired Navy veteran that the chance of our son being accepted again after six months was like winning the lottery.  These recruits are told whatever it takes to move them along....I'm sorry to hear about your husband.  He should be able to call you almost daily, so you have that to look forward to.  Tell him to stay strong, and there is a life after leaving the Navy.  Hang in there, I know it's difficult.

Diane

[rjgrappin3089]

Thanks Diane,

 I'm a little worried because it's been a week since I've gotten a phone call with any new information :/ Today in the mail I got a letter that he wrote on TUES of this week saying that he would be calling me later that day. Now today I still haven't gotten a phone call and I have no idea what is going on! His recruiter is trying to make some calls and see if he can't figure out what's going on for me. Safe to say I'm all stressed our and anxious right now.

[dcookie27]

hi, my son called me last week and told me he was being kicked out for medical reasons.   He was crying and very upset...he loved the experience so far....he said that some kids didn't even wanted to be there and wanted to go home..   He waited one year to get into the Navy as an HM.   He has an AA degree from our local state university but wanted to pursue schooling in the medical field.   I called legal and they told me that all of his options  will be explained to him including fighting the appeal.  On further questioning, he said that if he changes his job from HM that he may be allowed to stay?:   Is this true?  

any help would be appreciated.

[Angie]

Sorry to say, no he can't be put back in with a division and keep going with bootcamp.  He is in separations barrack for a reason.  No one on the base will be able to give you any information until your loved one signs the HIPPA paper work and the Privacy paper work stating that legal and medical can talk to you. 

Unsure the reason for his separation, but as was already posted the chances of him joining latter on are slim.  If he wants to fight it, than it is best to stay there and fight it.  Yes he could be there for longer, how long is different for each recruit.

[rjgrappin3089]

Thanks. I read on the Recruit Training Command web site that they are allowed 2 one hour phone calls a week while in SEPS (ship 5) and it's been a week since I've heard anything more about what is going on. His recruiter said that is weird since they get 2 days a week to call and update you on any info. Are you sure there is no chance that he was put back into a division to finish basic??

 Thanks

[Angie]

The only way he can be put back in a division, is if he appeals and wins the appeal.  The recruiter has no idea what really happens in bootcamp or ship 5, as far as the website, the key word on there is "granted" which also means they can be taken away if others are acting up.  You can try calling legal as others have said and tell them you haven't heard from your loved one. 

I really wouldn't trust leaving it to anyone but yourself to find out what is going on. Recommend you call legal yourself on Monday, Tuesday, etc... until you get your loved one to call you back.  Keep in mind, no one on the base can tell anyone anything about your loved one unless he has signed the paper work stating they can...that includes the recruiter. 

[landlockedmom(Ship 12, Div 079)]

My son just left today.   He was never given a phone call when they moved him to ship 5.   We found out in a brief facebook message that he sent when they allowed them to go to the lounge.   We were trying to get information to him about the need to appeal while still up there, but he never got to call us until after he had already met with legal.   Legal tells them they can appeal after they get home, but not that it is not likely they will win appeal, and that chances are better if you stay there to appeal.  I don't know what goes on up there, but I know that my son just wanted to get the heck out of Dodge.

I know my opinion of the Navy has gone down based on the handling of my son's discharge.

The first week my son was there he got to go to the Lounge and have some computer use.  If you are lucky you might be on facebook at the same time to allow for a conversation of sorts.   He went to the Nex a couple of times where he could call home and talk for 30 mins to an hour each time.  Mostly, they watch movies and read books.   They will have a turn or two at standing watch.   They went over to the gym a couple of times in the 20 days he was there.

[Angie]

Not being rude, but I know for a fact the recruits are allowed to make phone calls and are allowed a short one when they first get put into Ship 5...it is up to the recruit if they don't want to make a phone call.

[rjgrappin3089]

My husband did make a short phone call when he got in there which was last Thursday. He called me over the weekend when he went to the NEX but he wrote a letter on Tues saying he would call on TUes so I just thought it was a little weird that we haven't heard from him. I KNOW for a fact that he would call as often and for as long as he can. I just don't really understand what all happened and what goes on from here. 

[Angie]

As I have said before, things change all the time.  Someone could have gotten them in trouble and they lost the phone calls for everyone. 

[rjgrappin3089]

Did it take 20 business days for your son to come home from the day he got in ship 5? Or 20 days total?

[boiler7879]

It did take about 20 days. Our son got to call us almost every day...he did sign up for some type of job within ship 5 while he awaited his appeal. It had to be the most frustrating and helpless time in my life. Our son was chosen as a leader within his original ship and was excelling at his training when he was pulled out for some type of eye condition that they said he "may" develop later in life....bottom line is the Navy over recruits and given a reason recruits are discharged left and right. Our son had a college degree and could not find employment...when he decided to give the Navy a chance. We finally came to the conclusion it just was not meant to be....but I'm proud to say that our son is working and seems to have chalked this up to an experience in his life. I hope your husband will be able to come home and move forward with your lives...God Bless him for his efforts and let him know how proud we all are of him....take care!!