Ship 13 (USS Marvin Shields) Divisions 295 and 296 (Brother Divisions)

[ellen0502]

Welcome to the Division Discussion for Divisions 295 and 296

These two divisions are brother divisions and will be training together from the beginning through BS21 their final test. Your SRs, soon to be SAILORS, are becoming friends, and some of them may be heading to A School together.

Get to know each other, your SRs are!

Please still use the Main Wall of the PIR Group to post questions, and concerns, we “veteran” moms don’t always get to into the discussion area as often as we would like.

Every single question that is asked is important Every single concern is genuine Every single member is important to us We don't want to accidentally overlook any of them or you.

Hang in there!!!

[ellen0502]

[SoCal_Sailor_Dad]

Hello? Anybody else in here?

Received first phone call today. He left 12 June arrived 13 June 0300 due to weather delays. No sleep for first 48 hours, but now getting a solid 4-5 hours per night. After P-days he was in P-hold for 4 days. He said 296 is a "push" division. He is sick as are many/most SR's in his div. Stomach flu and/or colds. Passed his PFA and swim requirements, said first test is next week. He doesn't know what training day it is, he thought maybe 1-4 but wasn't sure. Said BC is pretty much what he expected; lots of yelling, lots of push-ups (300 yesterday), do exactly what you're told and you'll be fine, food is OK, but he feels like he's been there a month already. Overall sounded pretty good. He received his first letter yesterday (mailed Monday 24th) and said tomorrow will be their first chance to write letters home.

[FrankysMOM]

My son is same div..

[Victoria (Ship 13 Div 296)]

My husband is Ship 13 Div 296. I got to talk to him today also, only for about 20 minutes. He left Oregon June 12th.

[EmilyW]

My husband left oregon june 12th also! :) He's Ship 13 Div 296 as well!

[char1972lene]

we live in oregon too my son is ship 13 div 296 as well

[Victoria (Ship 13 Div 296)]

Are you going to Graduation? 

[GoBuckeyes]

Hi!  My son also left 6/12  - he's in Div 295. I got a call yesterday, too.  He gave me pretty much the same description of his time as your SR - minus the being sick.  What's a push division?

[SoCal_Sailor_Dad]

As I understand it, a push division is a division that gets pushed through the training pipeline faster than usual. If typical training lasts for 7 1/2 weeks, a push division might complete it in 6 1/2 - 7 weeks in order to graduate at a certain time. My guess is that most of or SR's left June 12 or 13, They typically have 5 P-days (Sundays don't count) which would bring them to around June 18 or 19. My son said he was in P-hold for 4 days (waiting to be placed in a div) so they probably didn't start actual training days until June 24 or 25. I understand that push divisions are usually the last ones to go to BS21, which can sometimes take place the day before PIR.

I found this description of a push division in a discussion on NavyDEP.com
"A Push division is a division that is being pushed through the pipeline at a faster rate than others, so they do all the same evolutions for training, but they do it in less time. They accomplish this by giving you less time to study for exams, and less time to practice for things such as inspections. If you are a push division you are expected to pick things up and learn them faster. While a regular division might get 5 days of mock PI's to prepare, A push division is lucky to get 2 days. The good news is that you graduate boot a little sooner, the bad news is it makes it harder. (But can still be done! I was in a push division)."

[FrankysMOM]

why do they do that my son is also ship13 div 296...

 

[FrankysMOM]

hello SoCal did ur SR say how his division is doing my call was so broken i could hardly make out what he was saying...All i know is it didn't feel like a good phone call..

[SoCal_Sailor_Dad]

Keep in mind that they are still early in their training, probably just now finishing up the first actual training week. The only thing my SR said about the division was that a lot of them were sick with colds. From what I've read on here, that's not uncommon. He didn't much like the weather, too humid, and he's seen more lightning than he's ever seen in any storm! He said the div was getting a lot of extra PT because "a lot of the younger recruits were doing stupid things." (his words - not mine - I assume he means that they weren't doing exactly what they were told exactly the way they were told to do it.) He said the only thing they do outside is march, but that he hasn't seen what any of the buildings look like, because when you march, you have to keep your eyes looking forward. :)  He said his div is not good at marching because the SR's who call out the cadence don't have any sense of rhythm or beat (I don't mean to offend anyone, that's just what he said.)
It's still early in their training. They have almost six more weeks to get it together. Trust that the RDC's know what they are doing, know their jobs, know what it will take to motivate a division and that they are there to help our SR's to succeed. They may be pushing our kids a little harder because they are a push division, but remember that the first weeks are supposed to be hard in order to break them from their civilian habits so they can develop the discipline needed to succeed in the Navy. The Navy has been training sailors for over 220 years!