Being separated for 'supposed' anxiety disorder...

[cab1213]

My daughter was sent to ship 5 about 3 weeks ago now because of a supposed 'panic/anxiety' disorder, and now they're trying to tell her that her separation code will be something about fraud that will keep her from being able to re-enlist or bar future government employment because she told one of the psychologists she talked to that she was "anxious" before she left for boot camp!  She started getting anxious after she got to boot camp and was to the point that loud noises, etc...would throw her into an attack.  She said it made it worse if several people would crowd around her trying to calm her down and she told her trainers that.  She's never had anything like that happen before ever.  So they're now implying she lied and had some sort of anxiety issue that she didn't disclose prior to enlistment, which is not true at all!  She has had a few times in her life where she would cry and get to the point that she would hyperventilate, but I'm sorry, I think that's probably about 90% of the population, myself included.  She's never been diagnosed or treated for any type of anxiety/panic disorder ever since birth, and it is pretty disgusting to me that they're doing this to her.  She doesn't want to stay and appeal it because she's heard that it can take months, but she definitely plans to appeal it once she gets home.  She said she knows of one girl there who was 'diagnosed' with the same thing and she chose to stay and fight her discharge and won it after over 2 months.  Crazy thing is that since she arrived in Ship 5, she met a few others who went in with documented psych issues that they didn't disclose upon enlistment and they didn't get hit with the fraudulent separation code the Navy is trying to give my daughter.  To say we are both slightly irritated is a huge understatement.  So now begins the research into the appeal process once she gets back.  She went to Legal last Wednesday I think it was, so now we're just waiting for her to get her travel date to come home.  It's all very sad and frustrating, and even more so that they're trying to also potentially screw her up for future jobs now. 

[wyhes]

Sorry to hear this about your daughter. Seems to be quite a bit of separation going on in boot camp. I am wondering why they don't let some have a second chance to see if it could be worked out. For many a first time away from home etc. The word anxious gets thrown around. It is a serious disorder and it's hard to believe can be diagnosed on a single visit to a doctor in that situation. I think she has a case but I'd be careful as to what she has to sign off on before she gets to travel home. I have asked you for a friend request and will private message you.

[Angie]

Sorry to say but having an attack like you talked about is a big issue, where she had an attack that loud noises would put her into an attack. There are lots of loud noises on a ship, also her getting worse with people around her is another issue as on a ship she will always be around many people.

Some people can not handle the military and the life style.

If she signs the paper work it is much harder to fight it when she is home, when she is there yes it takes longer to fight...but is easier to get things changed.

Once she signs the paperwork there saying ok to everything and she is going home, she can't change her mind and decide to fight it.  

[momofcct]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/535221726514465/?hc_location=stream

if you're not already a member of this private fb group....you should join. i'm in the same boat with my son and ship 5. everyone on the page/group are a parent(usually a mom) or another close relative of the SR going thru this hell.

[AZNavymom]

I'm sorry you are going through this. They are very quick to label someone as anxious or depressed. Too quick in many moms' opinions. Angie is wrong - you can fight the separation code once she gets home. I am no longer in that FB group that momofcct mentioned below, but  it's great and they can give you links to BUPARS which shows how to fight it.

((HUGS))

[Angie]

I said it was harder to fight once they got home, I didn't say they could not fight it...please if you are going to quote someone get it right.

It is BUPERS not BUPARS...below is the link of how the Daughter can try and fight it...but again sorry to say, if she is freaking out like she is in bootcamp, she should not be in the Navy.  Think what would happen if she did that in the middle of the ocean, or if there was a real fire on the ship and she did that...it isn't like she can just get away from it all.  Also not all ships have doctors on them, so it isn't like they could help her either if she did that out in the middle of the ocean.

What until your daughter gets home and talk to her about what she wants to do.

Also most people do not hyperventilate and cry like you said in your first post

http://www.public.navy.mil/BUPERS-NPC/CAREER/RECORDSMANAGEMENT/Page...

[AZNavymom]

Angie , thanks for catching my typo on bupers :)

[wyhes]

You should not take to heart any negative comments about your daughter's health. It takes strength and courage to handle the situation that she is in. Maybe the Navy is not for her but she should not be hit with a fraud separation code if she has never been treated for the new "anxiety" issue prior to bootcamp. It is one thing to be told that you cannot handle Navy life and quite another to have a military separation code of fraud. I hope you are able to get this taken care of.