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Comment by Nani Inga 46 minutes ago

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Comment by TK Trevor's Mom 49 minutes ago

AlexMomMJ, Woo hoo, doing the happy dance for you. Put those in a special place or box. I found with my son, after he got his cell ph back he didn't write another letter, at least so far. I'm keeping my fingers crossed . :)

Nani, those stockings are so beautiful, as are your grandkids. Enjoy those wonderful memories of a terrific holiday with them yesterday.

I was sorry to read about more nastiness on this site in another blog/discussion/group. This site has such hugh potential for being a support and source of information that it's a shame sh*t goes on that makes people shy away or makes them feel like they are unable to come here and feel safe. I have met so many wonderful people here and been able to share laughs, love, tears and triumphs, it's too bad there is a small percentage of nuttiness that still goes on. I've worked with the public for over 30 years and I've dealt with that enough to realize there are always going to be those that are a little nutty or alcohol is involved and it saddens me to find it here too. I just pray for those that have ugliness in their hearts that they find peace....and will stay away from a computer keyboard until they sober up.

Comment by TexasDocMom 1 hour ago

yeah, that's the one I was talking about...deleting posts, must have been the vileness overflowing again...how many dirty words and body parts can one refer to before Elle tosses 'em...? just don't go there.

Clear your mind...I had no idea there were women Freemasons...

Comment by TexasDocMom 1 hour ago

what's up with having to delete one's posts? too embarrassed to have them read? now THAT's funny! they're all gone now, Inga...don't go over there, it's dirty and nasty and you don't need it in your life, you've had those beautiful children all day to day...think about them! and I've had both of my kids home for Thanksgiving for the first time in 5 years! Thank you US Navy!

Comment by Nani Inga 1 hour ago

Also , how dare ANYONE call me an "unbeliever", did some people hear a voice from heaven telling them who is and isn't a Christian", or even a "believer"?

My blog does not have any vile comments unlike the one some folks belong to, some people REALLY DO NOT want to go there.. Some people's blog is closed and about time, what a disgusting vulgar group, whoever they are.

Here is the link to my blog

http://foulpeople.blogspot.com/

I have absolutely nothing written that I would be ashamed of, can some people say the same thing? Why try to pick a fight with me after such a wonderful holiday, really, actions DO speak louder than words.

Those who feel they are the only Christians and true believers have very small, narrow minds. No one knows what is in the heart of a person, NO ONE.They bare very poor witness to their faith,and give their own "brand" of Christianity a black eye.

Comment by TexasDocMom 1 hour ago

Did I call it or what?

Comment by Nani Inga 2 hours ago

http://go.sojo.net/campaign/afghan_8years

Aid, not Troops, in Afghanistan
The following letter is being issued by over twenty faith and moral leaders to President Obama, as he considers a new strategy in Afghanistan. Please add your name to the letter, and we'll send a copy to the White House.
Send this letter to:

* President Barack Obama

Dear Mr. President,

We believe, that after eight years of war, we need a whole new approach in Afghanistan.

We speak not as military or political strategists, but as citizens seeking to faithfully apply our moral values to this most crucial issue. We want first of all to commend you for taking the time to make a careful and considered decision on this important matter that will affect the lives of so many.

We feel deeply about the ethical and moral issues at stake in our future policy in Afghanistan - legitimately protecting Americans from further terrorism, protecting the lives of our men and women in uniform, protecting the Afghan people from the collateral damage of war, defending women from the Taliban, and genuinely supporting democracy - to name a few.

But we also lament the suffering, violence, and death on both sides of the conflict and recognize that war can never bring about the peace we strive to build in this world.

We are concerned that the discussion in Washington, D.C., is far too narrow. We respectfully and prayerfully suggest that you pursue a strategy built on a humanitarian and development surge.

Massive humanitarian assistance and sustainable development can rebuild a broken nation, inspire confidence, trust, and hope among its people, and undermine the appeal of terrorism. And it costs less - far less - than continued war.

Lead with economic development, starting in areas that are secure, and grow from there - providing only the security necessary to protect the strategic rebuilding of the country. Do not make aid and development another weapon of war by tying it so closely to the military; rather, provide the security needed for development work to succeed. This kind of peacekeeping security might better attract the international involvement we so desperately need, both from Europe and Arab and Muslim countries.

Pursue political and diplomatic solutions by promoting stable governance in Afghanistan and Pakistan; seeking political integration of those elements of the Taliban that are willing to cooperate; engaging with the United Nations and regional states to stabilize the region and promote economic development; and investing in international policing to prevent the spread of extremists and the use of terror.

We humbly suggest you host a meeting with the heads of the leading, well-established international development agencies in Afghanistan, who are trusted by the people of the country and have many indigenous employees. These organizations can share what kind of security they would need for the development that is most needed. Equally important, meet with members of Afghan civil society for their perspective as well. This input is crucial to your decision on Afghanistan.

Finally, it is time for a vigorous, public, and ongoing conversation between the government and the faith community about the moral and ethical implications of our policy decisions. Our counterterrorist missiles and unmanned drones may cost less in American lives and treasure, but they have very significant political and moral costs. The collateral damage of our technological war is great, resulting in many civilian deaths - further alienating the populace and, inadvertently, producing more recruits for terrorism.

Mr. President, we urge you to take the approach of effective humanitarian aid and development and genuine engagement with the moral issues that confront us in Afghanistan. As always, you are in our prayers as you seek the right decisions to these most difficult questions and choices.
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Comment by Nani Inga 3 hours ago

Steve, post menopausal women and older men are not all that different hormonally, so they say,lol.Better start some Boniva.

We have another spinner knitter in this group, maybe we can get her to post some pics of her finished projects, truly beautiful. Do you have ant pics of your projects, would love to see. I cannot knit for the life of me, also cant read those darn crochet patterns, make everything on my own design.

Comment by SteveB357 3 hours ago

Jill I,
My lodge does that after every meeting. Most U.S. Lodges don't. There's also singing and magic tricks. It is great fun. There are Female only and Female and Male lodges scattered around the world, including the U.S. Most are related to French and Belgian Grand Lodges, Like in the U.S. there's "La Droit Humaine," which our bilingual (see I do read the emails) know means The Rights of Man, meaning humans. That's what the deeper meaning is about, Les Droit Humaines.

Comment by SteveB357 3 hours ago

Nani Inga,
Great Stockings. My wife and I are knitters, spinners, weavers and crocheters. I'm on Navy for Moms, just found out I have advanced osteoporosis (doc said I have the bones of a 96 year old post hysterectomy woman), so what does this say about my manliness these days? I'm the one crying over sonny-Jim shipping out, and Mom's doing the "With your shield or on it!" thingy. Or is it with your life bouy or on it? Or your parrot?

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